Dumb Kenney and Moe Join 16 Republican Equally Dumb Governors Call to drop border Mandates

bver_hunter

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Flip Flopping Kenney and Moe along with the Republican Governors are playing politics. Hopefully both the Canadian and USA Governments will just show them the middle finger:

Kenney, Moe join forces with U.S. governors calling for end to border vaccine mandate

 

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No doubt Fox Hosts like Sucker Carlson and Profanity Hannity will use it as fuel to feed their fire about their support for far right anti-vaxxers!!

They have the Support for this My Pillow Dude who wants to "donate" his My Pillows to the truckers. When asked by a CBC reporter whether he was aware that they were calling for the Government to be overthrown, of course My Pillow Guy thawed that he did not know of it. What a Dummy!!
 

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There's a vacant spot left by O'Toole, Kenney and Moe are pandering to the core Conservatives.
Well there is that Andrew Scheer who can fill those boots. He was already out there holding the hands of those demonstrators.
 

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The American Right sees an opening and weakness in Canadian politics and is capitalizing on it. The CPC risks moving towards something that is not even close to being electable as a federal government and they don’t seem to really care.
The vaccine mandate and the trucker charade will cause a lot of handwringing and deja vu latter this year when new vaccines and variants come along.
And if Trump decides to run again, the effects on his sycophant in Canada in the CPC will surely put an ominous effect on the party’s direction and future, buoying the fortunes of Trudeau.
 

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I'd much rather this than anti-government militias and people obsessed with Trudeau shitting all over a city and blocking the borders.
 

bver_hunter

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Well this is one example of in fighting within the Alberta Provincial Conservative Party. This type of disagreements are bound to spill over into the Conservatives Federal Politics in the manner in which they took down O'Toole indicating that there is bitter division within the Party. The more Moderate side of the Party will be battling the more extreme right sections.

Kenney about to face the Ides of March
'Kenney is the one faced with something of a dilemma: how does he show support for his party’s candidate if that candidate doesn’t support him?'
 
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I disagree with the trucker mandates. I think it hurts the supply chain issues we have even more. It's not like an office setting . Truckers spend most of their time alone. The chances of them getting COVID and spreading is minimal. We still don't have mandates for health workers. The trucker mandates are a joke.
 
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Vaccine carrying truckers are exempted...yeah...we only need vaccines....fuck the rest of the supplies....
From the article.
"Health Canada said the exemption covered individuals, including those involved in commercial transport, who are delivering, picking up or fixing medical equipment and supplies.
The statement said "any proportion of a delivery that is medically necessary and is being delivered to a health-care facility or supply distribution centre is sufficient to qualify the person for this exemption.""
Only applies to US truckers since unvaccinated Canadian truckers can not enter the US.
 

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Ending vaccine mandates for border crossings of freight is not only just following the science, but is an economic necessity.
 

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If a new variant appears which is more lethal than previous Covid-19 strains in terms of morbidity or mortal than the restrictions, vaccine mandates will reappear on both sides of the border as the devastation will shock most people back into sobriety. Right now there is lawlessness and selfrighteousness and a lot of political pandering with the so called trucker movements being a facade for a failed attempted coup. Hopefully the pandemic becomes weaker and endemic and fades out towards liveability .

What we are seeing now is the vaccine mandates and masks being used as a wedge issue for identity politics , mischief and criminality.
 
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I disagree with the trucker mandates. I think it hurts the supply chain issues we have even more. It's not like an office setting . Truckers spend most of their time alone. The chances of them getting COVID and spreading is minimal. We still don't have mandates for health workers. The trucker mandates are a joke.
You don't agree with the trucker mandates?.... Fine.

But government doesn't have to be perfect in what it enacts. If the legislation is generally reasonable and generally follows health experts' advice, that is the standard that the courts (for example) would impose.

The fact that you don't agree with something that passes the reasonableness test means you write a complaint letter to your MP and you explain that you don't agree with the government's take on things. You don't legitimately get to demand the government resign and drive a truck around downtown Ottawa harassing people to get your own way.
 

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If a new variant appears which is more lethal than previous Covid-19 strains in terms of morbidity or mortal than the restrictions, vaccine mandates will reappear on both sides of the border as the devastation will shock most people back into sobriety. Right now there is lawlessness and selfrighteousness and a lot of political pandering with the so called trucker movements being a facade for a failed attempted coup. Hopefully the pandemic becomes weaker and endemic and fades out towards liveability .

What we are seeing now is the vaccine mandates and masks being used as a wedge issue for identity politics , mischief and criminality.
Don’t you believe the science? Numerous experts interviewed by the MSM have made it abundantly clear that we should expect each new variant to be LESS lethal than its predecessors. Viruses are living organisms that, like other living things, are trying to survive. A variant that kills its host will not successfully propagate. Successful viruses, like the common flu, do not kill the vast majority of hosts.

You seem very anti-science!
 

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Don’t you believe the science? Numerous experts interviewed by the MSM have made it abundantly clear that we should expect each new variant to be LESS lethal than its predecessors. Viruses are living organisms that, like other living things, are trying to survive. A variant that kills its host will not successfully propagate. Successful viruses, like the common flu, do not kill the vast majority of hosts.

You seem very anti-science!
As a general rule, there is a tendency for variants to become more contagious and less lethal.

But that is just a general rule, subject to many and varied exceptions.
 

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You don't agree with the trucker mandates?.... Fine.

But government doesn't have to be perfect in what it enacts. If the legislation is generally reasonable and generally follows health experts' advice, that is the standard that the courts (for example) would impose.

The fact that you don't agree with something that passes the reasonableness test means you write a complaint letter to your MP and you explain that you don't agree with the government's take on things. You don't legitimately get to demand the government resign and drive a truck around downtown Ottawa harassing people to get your own way.
No my fight. I'm just giving my opinion. I never said the government should resign. I just don't like the Emergencies act being used at this time. It's overreach. To me it's unreasonable considering truckers aren't among many people and we also don't have mandates for health care workers. Which do you think is more important? If you are following the health experts advice then if your vaxxed and boosted you have nothing to worry about. Chances are you won't run into any truckers.
 

mandrill

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No my fight. I'm just giving my opinion. I never said the government should resign. I just don't like the Emergencies act being used at this time. It's overreach. To me it's unreasonable considering truckers aren't among many people and we also don't have mandates for health care workers. Which do you think is more important? If you are following the health experts advice then if your vaxxed and boosted you have nothing to worry about. Chances are you won't run into any truckers.
The Emergencies Act is defensible, given the novelty of the situation and the blockage of border crossings and arteries and the extensive funding.

Health care vaxx mandates are provincial jurisdiction and international travel is federal. Their measures don't have to line up exactly to be acceptable.

Maybe you should phone Duggo and tell him to vaxx mandate hospitals?
 

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The Emergencies Act is defensible, given the novelty of the situation and the blockage of border crossings and arteries and the extensive funding.

Health care vaxx mandates are provincial jurisdiction and international travel is federal. Their measures don't have to line up exactly to be acceptable.

Maybe you should phone Duggo and tell him to vaxx mandate hospitals?
I have phoned Ford and his office that I think health care workers should be vaccinated. There aren't any borders blocked at this time yet the act moves forward . There isn't a threat to national security. Or financial intelligence agency disputes what the Trudeau government is saying about funding going to the convoy.
 

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Don’t you believe the science? Numerous experts interviewed by the MSM have made it abundantly clear that we should expect each new variant to be LESS lethal than its predecessors. Viruses are living organisms that, like other living things, are trying to survive. A variant that kills its host will not successfully propagate. Successful viruses, like the common flu, do not kill the vast majority of hosts.

You seem very anti-science!
Political science and microbiology sometimes mix well and sometimes they don’t. We can find find experts of convenience to support most trends and arguments. By the way, the population of North America is insignificant when compared with the rest of the world and apolitical Covid-19 and it’s variants are aware of this, so expect us to get hit again and again and hopefully the variants get increasingly benign but this is not guaranteed.

Covid-19 is rewriting some of the expected behaviour of viral mutations. It is debatable what you are claiming that each variant is less lethal than it precursors since Delta was more virulent than Alpha perhaps since it is said to have double mutated. So what is stopping Omicron from double or even triple mutating in the future ?
 
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