Any suggestions for a new e-mail client. I know 'The Bat' is good technically, but I don't much care for the screen layout.
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e-mail client recomendations?
- Thread starter Aardvark154
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I don't use email clients anymore to get email with the exception of corporate email. The problem is with having an email client you have to deal with SPAM and useless messages in your inbox. Webmail is much more viable and you don't have to worry about viruses and spam as most of them do it for you. Best of all they are free services that offer you plenty of storage.
The Bat is great for mass-mailing. It's also great for getting your mail relegated to 'spam' folders.
Seriously, one of the first filters I do is shunt mail sent by The Bat to junk automatically. Only mass-mailers really use it.
Thunderbird's my Windows client of choice. Kmail for Linux, Mail for the Mac.
Go with Thunderbird. Especially if you're using IMAP, Outlook's IMAP support is horrid.
Seriously, one of the first filters I do is shunt mail sent by The Bat to junk automatically. Only mass-mailers really use it.
Thunderbird's my Windows client of choice. Kmail for Linux, Mail for the Mac.
Go with Thunderbird. Especially if you're using IMAP, Outlook's IMAP support is horrid.
Another vote here for Thunderbird. Very easy to setup spam filters and the program will adapt to junk mail that you tag.
Has anybody considered mail security? I basically use Outlook for my email and have done for years. These email clients send the login password in clear text by default along with all messages and text in the emails.
It was easy to grab the passwords of all accounts by sniffing the network as they all show up in clear text. Took me 5 minutes to figure this out.
Does anyone know of a mail service that is SSL so the password for login and all text is not clear text over the line?
Justa thought
UPDATE:
Actually after I posted this I did search on google and got back the following of interest but I tried this with OUTLOOK and it doesn't seem to work, just gets error:
http://webnet77.com/secure-email.html
The following common Mail clients support SSL:
Thunderbird - (recommended)
Eudora 5.1 and later
Outlook
Outlook Express
Many others.
OUTLOOK EXPRESS - SSL POP
ACTION COMMENT
From the toolbar, select Tools -> Accounts
Click the Mail tab then click on the e-mail account to change
Click Properties
Click on the Servers tab and enter the following:
Incoming mail (POP3): host.hostname.com
Outgoing mail (SMTP): host.hostname.com You must to enter the hostname of the server. (Not your domain name).
Check your Welcome email for the Hostname.
Enter the Account name: me@mydomain.com The one you entered when you created the mailbox on your site.
NOTE - it is the full email address
Enter the Password: *******
The one you entered when you created the mailbox on your site
Make sure this option is checked: My server requires authentication Required when you send mail
Click Apply
Next select the Advanced Tab
Check: This server requires a secure connection (SSL) This is what makes POP secure
You should see the port number, Incoming mail (POP3) change from 110 to 995
Click APPLY
OUTLOOK EXPRESS - SSL SMTP
Click Tools -> Accounts select account to work with
Click the Advanced tab
Check This server requires a secure connection (SSL) This is what makes POP secure
In the Outgoing Mail box, change 25 to 465 This is the SSL port. (Usually port 25 will also work)
Click APPLY
OUTLOOK EXPRESS - SSL IMAP
From the toolbar, select Tools -> Email Accounts -> View or Change existing email accounts
Select your IMAP account, then click Next
In the new menu that opens, click on More Settings
Select the Advanced tab
From Advanced selections available, select the box for Incoming Server: this server requires secure connection (SSL). Port should change to 993 This is what makes SMTP secure
Click OK, then click Next
Select Finish
THUNDERBIRD - SSL POP
Click Tools -> Account Settings -> Server Settings
In the Server Name box, enter the hostname of the server. You must to enter the hostname of the server. (Not your domain name).
Check your Welcome email for the Hostname.
Enter the User Name: me@mydomain.com The one you entered when you created the mailbox on your site.
NOTE - it is the full email address
Under Security Settings, Check SSL Port number should change to 995.
This is what makes POP secure
Do not check Use secure Authentication
Check Check New Messages Every 30 minutes. Do not set too short. 30 minutes is fine. (If you POP too often, the server can ban your IP for a cool off period).
Check Automatically download New Messages
THUNDERBIRD - SSL SMTP
Click Tools -> Account Settings -> Outgoing Server (SMTP)
Click Add (or edit if already there)
Enter a Description like MyWebSiteServer This is arbitrary
In the Server Name box, enter the hostname of the server. You must to enter the hostname of the server. (Not your domain name).
Check your Welcome email for the Hostname.
Under Security Authentication, Check User name and Password
Under user name, enter your email: me@mydomain.com The one you entered when you created the mailbox on your site.
NOTE - it is the full email address
Check the SSL box This is what makes SMTP secure
It was easy to grab the passwords of all accounts by sniffing the network as they all show up in clear text. Took me 5 minutes to figure this out.
Does anyone know of a mail service that is SSL so the password for login and all text is not clear text over the line?
Justa thought
UPDATE:
Actually after I posted this I did search on google and got back the following of interest but I tried this with OUTLOOK and it doesn't seem to work, just gets error:
http://webnet77.com/secure-email.html
The following common Mail clients support SSL:
Thunderbird - (recommended)
Eudora 5.1 and later
Outlook
Outlook Express
Many others.
OUTLOOK EXPRESS - SSL POP
ACTION COMMENT
From the toolbar, select Tools -> Accounts
Click the Mail tab then click on the e-mail account to change
Click Properties
Click on the Servers tab and enter the following:
Incoming mail (POP3): host.hostname.com
Outgoing mail (SMTP): host.hostname.com You must to enter the hostname of the server. (Not your domain name).
Check your Welcome email for the Hostname.
Enter the Account name: me@mydomain.com The one you entered when you created the mailbox on your site.
NOTE - it is the full email address
Enter the Password: *******
The one you entered when you created the mailbox on your site
Make sure this option is checked: My server requires authentication Required when you send mail
Click Apply
Next select the Advanced Tab
Check: This server requires a secure connection (SSL) This is what makes POP secure
You should see the port number, Incoming mail (POP3) change from 110 to 995
Click APPLY
OUTLOOK EXPRESS - SSL SMTP
Click Tools -> Accounts select account to work with
Click the Advanced tab
Check This server requires a secure connection (SSL) This is what makes POP secure
In the Outgoing Mail box, change 25 to 465 This is the SSL port. (Usually port 25 will also work)
Click APPLY
OUTLOOK EXPRESS - SSL IMAP
From the toolbar, select Tools -> Email Accounts -> View or Change existing email accounts
Select your IMAP account, then click Next
In the new menu that opens, click on More Settings
Select the Advanced tab
From Advanced selections available, select the box for Incoming Server: this server requires secure connection (SSL). Port should change to 993 This is what makes SMTP secure
Click OK, then click Next
Select Finish
THUNDERBIRD - SSL POP
Click Tools -> Account Settings -> Server Settings
In the Server Name box, enter the hostname of the server. You must to enter the hostname of the server. (Not your domain name).
Check your Welcome email for the Hostname.
Enter the User Name: me@mydomain.com The one you entered when you created the mailbox on your site.
NOTE - it is the full email address
Under Security Settings, Check SSL Port number should change to 995.
This is what makes POP secure
Do not check Use secure Authentication
Check Check New Messages Every 30 minutes. Do not set too short. 30 minutes is fine. (If you POP too often, the server can ban your IP for a cool off period).
Check Automatically download New Messages
THUNDERBIRD - SSL SMTP
Click Tools -> Account Settings -> Outgoing Server (SMTP)
Click Add (or edit if already there)
Enter a Description like MyWebSiteServer This is arbitrary
In the Server Name box, enter the hostname of the server. You must to enter the hostname of the server. (Not your domain name).
Check your Welcome email for the Hostname.
Under Security Authentication, Check User name and Password
Under user name, enter your email: me@mydomain.com The one you entered when you created the mailbox on your site.
NOTE - it is the full email address
Check the SSL box This is what makes SMTP secure
another hand up for "ThunderBird"Aardvark154 said:
i never liked or used Outlook as it was always been targeted... before that i always used Netscape mail
SSL encryption for sending passwords will only work if the mail server you're connecting to supports it.
Most don't.
Most don't.
I know this may be obvious for some but doesn't that allow anyone on the network with a network sniffer program to capture everyone's email id/password?eenthusiast said:
Makes you think twice about what you use your email for doesn't it!!
