European Leaders Warn That Conscription Will Be Necessary As The EU Launches An $840 Billion Program To Prepare For War With Russia

[oil&gas]

7m Germans were lost in the last try, weapons are FAR more deadly now, orders of magnitude. Also if NATO troops enter Russia and if their offensive has momentum, you can expect Russia to deploy tactical nukes on their own territory. Also Russia will be attacking bases in the rear. It will be a bloodbath.

Were I the one in charge tactical nukes would be the last resort
even with NATO armies crossing the border into Russia

A glance on the map would show why Europe is way more
vulnerable than Russia to even non-nuclear missile attack. It
would just take sporadic attacks of conventional hypersonic missiles
to force Europe to disperse its anti-missile systems to a degree
where defence of its small cities would not be feasible.

Sweden for instance has as many 2,000 hydropower stations.
Attack of one single drone is all it takes to collapse one single
dam if you know how fragile that kind of construction is. Concentrated
hypersonic missile attacks on Sweden's hydropower system can
easily drown out a vast part of if not the entire country. But that is not
what Russia should do. Taking out a handful of water dams in Northern
Europe in Sweden, sinking of 10 to 20 North Sea drilling platforms in
the UK and Norway, wiping out a a number of small towns spread out
over the entire Europe and taking out all the miserably small oil fields
in France's Paris basin will do the job of forcing NATO invaders
to go home. Using nukes would be a waste of precious uranium fuel.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

7m Germans were lost in the last try, weapons are FAR more deadly now, orders of magnitude. Also if NATO troops enter Russia and if their offensive has momentum, you can expect Russia to deploy tactical nukes on their own territory. Also Russia will be attacking bases in the rear. It will be a bloodbath.

You didn't elaborate on your previous analysis.
But nothing in reality or in this article suggests an invasion of Russia.
The only threat is an invasion from Russia in which case they will get decimated considering how poorest country in Europe killed a million Russians with spare Western weapons.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Nobody does, not even the experts.

Experts are called experts because they have expertise and have facts on hand to be experts.

 

[oil&gas]

You didn't elaborate on your previous analysis.
But nothing in reality or in this article suggests an invasion of Russia.
The only threat is an invasion from Russia in which case they will get decimated considering how poorest country in Europe killed a million Russians with spare Western weapons.

If Europe is in preparation for war with Russia it will have to attack
Russia somewhere. Nothing indicates Europe intended the war
to be fought only in its own territories.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

If Europe is in preparation for war with Russia it will have to attack
Russia somewhere.

Preparing for war with Russia, after 3 years of unprovoked Russian aggression in light of Trump's recent distancing of the US from NATO/EU, does not suggest an Europe initiated war against Russia.

 

[oil&gas]

Preparing for war with Russia, after 3 years of unprovoked Russian aggression in light of Trump's recent distancing of the US from NATO/EU, does not suggest an Europe initiated war against Russia.

I don't disagree with you.

If war breaks out between Europe and Russia I just don't think
it will be one as clear cut as an invasion of Russia into Europe or
vice versa. At least that is how it appears. Europe is not preparing
for war entirely because it is in anticipation of Russian invasion
into its own territories. Perhaps they will end up fighting each other
in Ukraine.

 

[oil&gas]

Eurotard hysteria achieves new heights as Ursula von der Leyen unveils her new Goatse-branded defence initiative and Friedrich Merz reacts to literal fake news with a massive deficit spending plan

MAR 07, 2025

For three years we have had war in Ukraine, masterminded on the NATO side by senile warmonger-in-chief Joe Biden. This war included bizarre moments, like direct attacks on German energy infrastructure, and also escalatory brinksmanship, as when Biden authorised long-range missile strikes within Russian territory, and the Russians responded with a not-so-subtle threat of nuclear retaliation. Throughout all of this madness, the Europeans slept, sparing hardly a single thought for their defence. Now that Donald Trump hopes to end the war in Ukraine, however, Continental political leaders are losing their minds. War: not scary at all. Peace: an existential threat.

The first way our leaders hope to dispel the disturbing spectre of peace, is via Ursula von der Leyen’s “ReArm Europe” initiative, which will permit member states to take on billions in debt to fund their rearmament. In this way, the clueless histrionic Brussels juggernaut hopes (in the words of Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk) to “join and win the arms race” with Russia, even if (in the words of the Neue Zürcher Zeitung – h/t the incomparable Roger Köppel) we must “avoid for the moment a confrontation with the new Washington.” Becoming a global superpower with a view towards confronting the hated Americans is all about spending and time, you don’t need strategy or a plan or anything like that.

Those of you wondering whether it might be a better idea to rearm first and then set about alienating our powerful geopolitical partners simply lack the Eurotardian vision. These are such serious people, that in the space of a few days they spun up this remarkable logo for their spending programme …

… which obviously portrays the EU member states smearing yellow warpaint on themselves and in no way evokes the most notorious obscene internet image of all time. Nations just do stuff, but the Eurotards cannot even take a shit without bizarre hamfisted branding campaigns.

As I said, these are deeply serious people, and they also speak very seriously, in declarative sentences that don’t mean anything. In a publicity statement, von der Leyen said that these are “extraordinary times” which are a “watershed moment” for Europe and also a “watershed moment” for the Ukraine.” Such extraordinary watersheds require “special measures,” such as “peace through strength” and “defence” through “investment.” Top EU diplomat and leading Estonian crazy person Kaja Kallas for her part noted that “We have initiative on the table” and that she’s “looking forward to seeing Europe show unity and resolve.” Perhaps there will also be money in the ReArm Europe programme to outfit Brussels with an arsenal of thesauruses so we do not have to hear the same words all the time.

The European defence-spending orgy was inspired partly by our deeply spooked and unstable soon-to-be Chancellor, Friedrich Merz, whose spirit animal is a pigeon.

Merz spent the entire campaign assuring CDU voters that he would never, ever, under any circumstances at all, in any conceivable universe, agree to lift the German debt brake. Campaign Merz was the Pigeon of Fiscal Responsibility, and he even had his stalwart opposition to deficit spending in excess of 0.35% of GDP inscribed into his party’s election programme. Merz rhapsodised on the wonders of the debt brake at every opportunity He said strict deficit spending rules are necessary to “protect the money and tax burdens of the younger generation” and that “we collect one trillion Euros in taxes a year,” and he asked, “shouldn’t we be able to make do with that?”

Merz no longer believes we should be able to make do with that, and the story of his turnabout is so farcical, I can hardly believe it. Last Tuesday, all of the Eurotards managed to terrify themselves that Donald Trump would announce the withdrawal of the United States from NATO in his pending congressional address. I said in my last post that this was not going to happen, but none of our Eurotard ruling class have any good lines of communication to the Trump administration or any understanding of American intentions at all. Thus Merz apparently believed these crazy rumours, and in a fit of panic he decided that Germany should abolish the debt brake after all. Overnight, he announced plans to reform the German constitution to exempt much defence spending from debt limits entirely, and also to establish a 500 billion-Euro “special fund” for infrastructure spending. (In German politics, “special fund” is a euphemism for “great big wad of debt.”)

Altogether, Merz’s proposed spending spree will reach something approaching 20% of German GDP. To piss away all of this money, Merz will need a two-thirds vote of the parliament, and so he’ll have to force his plan through in the last days of the present Bundestag, as the establishment parties will no longer have the necessary votes when the new Bundestag sits at the end of the month (the AfD and the Left Party will be too powerful then). Democracy!

Obviously it would be a good idea for Germany specifically and Europe in general to begin funding their own defence, but three things dampen my enthusiasm for the present hysteria. First, there is the hysteria part: If Covid has taught us anything, it is that little good can come from these self-reinforcing spirals of childish hyperventilation. The second is the imprudent undertone of isolationist Amerophobia and the total lack of any coherent plan beyond “we must spend a bunch of money immediately.” The third, which proceeds from the second, is the absence of any talk whatsoever about serious institutional reform. Pouring money into our existing defence bureaucracies is not going to yield shiny new powerful armies, it is just going to get us more bureaucrats and a few ridiculous, deeply expensive and impossible-to-maintain pieces of military hardware.

Don’t believe me? Consider what happened under Gerhard Schröder and Angela Merkel, when our Bundeswehr attempted to procure updated Puma infantry fighting vehicles for German soldiers. In the insane upside-down world of the Federal Republic, not even the military is exempt from our complex workplace health and safety regulations. Thus the new Pumas had to provide such optimal interior climactic conditions “that they could transport heavily pregnant female soldiers during combat missions.” Specifically, the vehicles had to be built such that munitions fumes would not threaten “amniotic fluid damage among female crew.” These and other bizarre requirements drove the cost and complexity of manufacture so high, that the notoriously incompetent procurement authority in Koblenz never succeeded in replacing our outmoded 1970s-era Marders, hundreds of which remain in service. Original plans to buy 1,000 Pumas had to be scaled back to a mere 350 – still the number that remains in service today. These overwrought machines are prone to maintenance problems and probably at best half of them are operational. They also rank among the most expensive infantry fighting vehicles in the entire world, costing between €7 and €10 million per vehicle (in 2015 money).

Merz hopes to spend at least 400 billion Euros on expanding the Bundeswehr, and this money will either be poured into disgraceful boondoggles like the Puma, or go straight to the Americans – our newfound geopolitical rivals! – because at least their stuff kind of works. And what is not wasted on unworkable albatross projects will be absorbed by bureaucrats, planners, consultants and other official layabouts. The wide-ranging, fundamental reforms have to come first, but all the present German and European leadership can imagine doing is spending money. I fear that we will not emerge from the present panic stronger or more secure; we will just end up poorer, more geopolitically isolated and vastly more bureaucratised than we already are.

Eurotard hysteria achieves new heights as Ursula von der Leyen unveils her new Goatse-branded defence initiative and Friedrich Merz reacts to literal fake news with a massive deficit spending plan

For three years we have had war in Ukraine, masterminded on the NATO side by senile warmonger-in-chief Joe Biden.

www.eugyppius.com

 

[Skoob]

March 4, 2025

If you were drafted, would you willingly go to the killing fields of eastern Ukraine? What about your children? The war in Ukraine has been an endless “meat grinder” that has already claimed hundreds of thousands of Russian lives and more than a million Ukrainian lives. Those that are sane want to see if there is a peaceful way out of this mess so that the killing can stop. Unfortunately, vast numbers of leftists all over the United States and western Europe have been transformed into rabid pro-war lunatics that are absolutely obsessed with “defeating” Russia. So gigantic mountains of dollars and euros have been poured into the war in Ukraine, but it hasn’t worked. The Russians are winning, and so now European leaders are preparing to take things to the next level.

On Tuesday, Ursula von der Leyen unveiled a brand new $840 billion program that will be known as “Rearm Europe”…

The European Union will free up $840 billion in funding to funnel into defense across the bloc, European Commission chief Ursula von der Leyen announced on Tuesday.

Interestingly, this new effort was announced just a few hours after President Trump paused all U.S. military aid to the Ukrainians…

Dubbed “Rearm Europe,” the remarks from the European Commission’s president came hours after President Donald Trump suspended all U.S. military aid to Ukraine, widening the gulf between Washington and Kyiv and going against the fresh commitments of support from Europe for Ukraine in recent days.

“I do not need to describe the grave nature of the threats that we face, or the devastating consequences that we will have to endure if those threats would come to pass,” von der Leyen told reporters.

Of course money won’t be enough to accomplish what European leaders have planned.

They are going to need warm bodies as well.

As most of you know, elections were just held in Germany, and the group that won is apparently pushing for a rapid reintroduction of “compulsory military service”…

Germany’s conservatives, who are set to lead the next government, on Tuesday argued that the country should quickly reintroduce compulsory military service.

Friedrich Merz, head of the CDU/CSU bloc that topped last month’s elections, has argued that in the era of US President Donald Trump, Europe will have to better handle its own security.

If I was a young person in Germany right now, I would be extremely concerned.

A spokesperson for the group that will be heading up the new government has publicly stated that the first new conscripts “will have to walk through the barracks gates in 2025”…

The defence policy spokesman of his centre-right alliance, Florian Hahn, told Bild daily that Germany’s “suspension of conscription no longer fits the current threat situation”.

“The first conscripts will have to walk through the barracks gates in 2025,” Hahn told the daily. “We cannot stand by and watch as the world around us becomes more unsafe.”

That is this year.

Why are they in such a rush?

Do they know something that the rest of us do not?

A British military official that once served in one of the top positions in NATO says that the UK must also “make plans for conscription”…

A former NATO commander has suggested that Donald Trump’s recent remarks on Ukraine could lead to the reintroduction of conscription in the UK. Trump has shocked international leaders by suggesting that Ukraine is responsible for the intensifying conflict with Russia.

Adding to the tension, US Secretary of Defence Pete Hegseth announced at a conference in Brussels last week that America’s focus was shifting away from European security. “(I am) here today to directly and unambiguously express that stark strategic realities prevent the United States of America from being primarily focused on the security of Europe,” he declared.

These developments have raised concerns about the potential outbreak of World War 3, with NATO’s former Deputy Supreme Allied Commander Europe, Sir Richard Shirreff, considering the possibility of conscription returning to the UK. In a recent Daily Mail article, Sir Shirreff expressed his grave concerns: “Though many will find it unthinkable, we must be prepared to call up our reservists – and make plans for conscription. Trump has left us no other choice.”

Is he nuts?

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Young people in the UK don’t want to die in Ukraine.

For a moment, I would like for you to consider what life is like in the trenches in eastern Ukraine.

Imagine standing in extremely cold muddy water that comes up to your knees. Your teeth are chattering because you can never get warm, and at night the temperature gets way below freezing. You would love to climb out of the trench, but it is your only source of cover. Massive explosions rattle your bones night and day, and there is a constant threat that the Russians could advance in your direction. You have seen countless other soldiers get shot or have limbs get blown off, and you are just praying that you can make it to the next day.

Most westerners that are rabidly pro-war would change their tune very quickly if they had to spend a single hour in those trenches.

Personally, I am very thankful that President Trump is trying to see if there is a peaceful way to resolve this conflict.

On Monday evening, he suspended all shipments of weapons and ammunition to Ukraine…

U.S. weapons deliveries to Ukraine came to an abrupt halt on Monday evening after President Donald Trump ordered a pause on all aid to the war-torn country, the Pentagon confirmed on Tuesday.

After the order was given, all U.S. weapons shipments to Ukraine came to a stop, as of 6 p.m. on Monday evening, according to a defense official. Planes carrying supplies en route to Ukraine would have had to turn around, the official said.

This was an ultra-aggressive approach, but Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy was not being cooperative.

So President Trump called his bluff.

Zelenskyy understands that the Ukrainians will get routed by the Russians without U.S. assistance, and so he was forced to fall in line with what Trump wants. On Tuesday, Zelenskyy issued quite a groveling apology…

‘My team and I stand ready to work under President Trump’s strong leadership to get a peace that lasts.

‘We are ready to work fast to end the war, and the first stages could be the release of prisoners and truce in the sky — ban on missiles, long-ranged drones, bombs on energy and other civilian infrastructure — and truce in the sea immediately, if Russia will do the same.

‘Then we want to move very fast through all next stages and to work with the US to agree a strong final deal.

‘We do really value how much America has done to help Ukraine maintain its sovereignty and independence. And we remember the moment when things changed when President Trump provided Ukraine with Javelins. We are grateful for this.

Now that Zelenskyy has seen how far Trump is willing to go, he has decided to sign the minerals deal, and it was expected that Trump would announce this during his speech to Congress on Tuesday night…

U.S. President Donald Trump’s administration and Ukraine plan to sign the much-debated minerals deal following a disastrous Oval Office meeting Friday in which Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy was dismissed from the building, four people familiar with the situation said on Tuesday.

President Donald Trump has told his advisers that he wants to announce the agreement in his address to Congress Tuesday evening, three of the sources said, cautioning that the deal had yet to be signed and the situation could change.

Now that Zelenskyy has been forcibly convinced to cooperate, Trump will turn his attention to the Russians.

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Unfortunately, the Russians are in no mood to compromise, and they have all the leverage because they are winning the war.

I expect that Trump and his team will be quite diplomatic with the Russians at first, but when the Russians repeatedly refuse to give them what they want that will change.

The Trump administration is envisioning a very large force of European soldiers in Ukraine after a ceasefire is declared. The Russians are adamantly against this, and they have repeatedly stated that they will never accept western forces in Ukraine under any circumstances.

In addition, the Russians intend to keep every inch of territory that they have already captured. In fact, according to Newsweek the Russians actually want Ukraine to concede major cities that the Ukrainians currently control…

Trump has suggested that both Russia and Ukraine must make concessions in the war. Kyiv has rejected any idea of ceding territory to Moscow, while Putin has demanded that Ukraine give up its aspirations of joining the NATO military alliance, and cede its Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions.

The ISW think tank, based in Washington D.C., noted that there are several large cities in these regions that Russian forces “do not currently occupy and have no prospect of seizing.”

Russia’s occupation of the remainder of the four Ukrainian oblasts would include large cities such as Kherson City (pre-war population of about 275,000), Kramatorsk (147,000 people), and Zaporizhzhia City (706,000)—all of which remain under Ukrainian control,” the think tank said.

If this is what the Russians are actually asking for, they are being very foolish, and they are seriously overplaying their hand.

On the other side, the Ukrainians and our allies in Europe want the Russians to return much or all of the territory that they have conquered.

Needless to say, that simply is not going to happen.

As I stated the other day, the Russians and the Ukrainians are not even in the same universe as far as what an “acceptable deal” would look like.

The Russians figure that time is on their side because their forces are continually moving forward.

The longer it takes to reach a peace agreement, the more territory they will end up with.

This is going to greatly frustrate Trump.

He doesn’t really have any leverage on the Russians. If he tries to create leverage using an ultra-aggressive approach, it will backfire severely.

In recent weeks, we have seen Trump take an ultra-aggressive approach with nations all over the globe.

In many cases, that has worked out very well.

If he tries a similar approach with the Russians, it will not work.

For more than a decade, I have been relentlessly warning about what a final showdown with Russia would look like.

We must not go down that road.

Unfortunately, at the moment both sides are making all sorts of unrealistic demands.

I am extremely alarmed by the insane demands that the Russians are making, the Europeans are being wildly unrealistic, and the Ukrainians are simply being delusional.

Trump is determined to get a deal done, but I see no possible way that he is going to be able to come up with a deal that is acceptable to everyone.

So at some point Trump will be tempted to put his foot down, and that would be a tragic mistake.

Finding a peaceful way out of this mess is going to require a tremendous amount of diplomatic finesse, and it literally would be a major miracle if a peace agreement is ever signed.

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Europe has a nasty habit of starting wars it can't finish and then requiring the US to come in and clean up the mess.

 

[danmand]

Europe has a nasty habit of starting wars it can't finish and then requiring the US to come in and clean up the mess.

Nah, that is Israel.

It was USA that started the war in Ukraine.

 

[mellowjello]

You think Russia would nuke Russia?

A united EU is a bigger force than the US and way bigger than Russia.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1897004821208764738

It's not just about numbers, it's about a mindset and culture for war.
You don't just flip a switch and everyone's becomes a fighting machine.
Europe is not up to the task.

 

[danmand]

It's not just about numbers, it's about a mindset and culture for war.
You don't just flip a switch and everyone's becomes a fighting machine.
Europe is not up to the task.

The youth in Europe is not willing to go to war against Russia. They do not believe the propaganda, and they are not willing to go to war.

 

[mellowjello]

The youth in Europe is not willing to go to war against Russia. They do not believe the propaganda, and they are not willing to go to war.

I agree.
Also in a war of attrition, this a war that Russia will not back down from because they have everything to lose.
This is a serious existential threat to the Russians, this nonsense about empire building is as silly and naive as it gets.
Europe doesn't have the same skin in the game.
Europe should put their military to protect those pipelines and kill the fucker that tries to blow it up again.

 

[nottyboi]

You think Russia would nuke Russia?

A united EU is a bigger force than the US and way bigger than Russia.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1897004821208764738

Yes Russia would nuke Russia without hesitation if it were existential

 

[Skoob]

Nah, that is Israel.

It was USA that started the war in Ukraine.

WW1, WW2, .....ring any bells?