Exclusive: First charges filed in Mueller investigation

bver_hunter

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Probably, but it could also be Trump for obstruction of justice.
Though that's not very likely right now.

Think Mueller is keeping them stewing over the weekend on purpose?
Did he get a Friday afternoon warrant for added pressure over the weekend?
It will start from the minnions and will move all the way to the top.
 

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That is the real news that the administration and it's surrogates are trying obfuscate, cast as fake news and attempt flim flam the public about the criminal investigations regarding crimes arising from collusion/attempts to collude and obstruction of justice.

Standard operating procedure by the administration and it's surrogates:

1) Deny, deny deny which in reality has actually been lie, lie lie.

2) Cry fake news by declaring any and everything to do with the election investigations is just a witch hunt perpetrated by the Dems and Clinton.

3) Obfuscate, create smoke and mirrors disinformation and attempt to have the attention focused away from Trump and associates by crying wolf about HRC.


All bullshit and bluster reminiscent of the wizard behind the curtain attempting to create an alternate reality.

Pull the curtain and we have one SAD, morally corrupt and criminally liable, fake news blowhard with an orange head.
Trump has been hiding under this stale fake news myth for far too long. Now the truth will be revealed and he can either take credit or just take responsibility for once in his life time.
 

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Trump has been hiding under this stale fake news myth for far too long. Now the truth will be revealed and he can either take credit or just take responsibility for once in his life time.
Trump is panicking today.
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...are now fighting back like never before. There is so much GUILT by Democrats/Clinton, and now the facts are pouring out. DO SOMETHING!
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Like the twitter universe is going to save him.
 

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So much stupid in one post...
The Mueller Trump/Russia collusion or treason investigation has been going on for six months.
They represent series charges for criminal acts that may have changed the election results.

The dossier research was funded by both republicans and democrats and the only reason its in the news is because the FBI thinks some of its allegations are worth investigating.
Clinton had nothing to do with Trump's call for Russia to hack Clinton.
But clearly Trump called for Russia to hack into Clinton's emails. Those emails were supposed to contain classified information. Did he want them to fall into Russia's hands?
 

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Its been about a year that you and the Trumpkins have been stating that the Russia investigation will go nowhere and that the dossier is junk.
Which one of us is really living in a fantasy?
I've always said Trump will never get charged or impeached over this Russia stuff. So far I've been proven right
 

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Buzzfeed (who first printed the pee-pee dossier) is reporting that the charges against Manafort concern money transfers from 2012 & 2013, long before the election. Time period coincides with his lobbying on behalf of Ukraine with Tony Podesta & The Podesta Group.

These 13 Wire Transfers Are A Focus Of The FBI Probe Into Paul Manafort
https://www.buzzfeed.com/jasonleopo...-suspicious-wire?utm_term=.tczlY5K3#.dgWvbrKQ

Mueller Now Investigating Democratic Lobbyist Tony Podesta
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ting-democratic-lobbyist-tony-podesta-n812776
 

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Let the record show there is still no evidence of any "collusion" to hack the Democratic party's emails.

In fact, the only thing revealed today that might have been an issue for Trump was some of the details associated with George Papadopoulos' guilty plea.

Fortunately for Trump, however, Team Clinton (and some of the Clinton supporters on TERB) went out of its way last week to define such activities as perfectly legitimate "opposition research." :encouragement:
 

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Let the record show there is still no evidence of any "collusion" to hack the Democratic party's emails.
Hahahahahaha!

Two things are true about the indictments unsealed by special counsel Bob Mueller Monday:

They don’t provide a “smoking gun” proving collusion between Donald Trump’s operation and Russia.

They make it almost impossible to believe that there wasn’t collusion between Trump’s operation and Russia.

Here is what we now know: The Trump campaign was filled with operatives connected in shady ways to the Russian government. It included individuals who knew that the Russians had obtained Clinton-related emails and who lied about that knowledge to federal investigators. Top campaign officials (and Trump family members) dropped everything to meet with Russian operatives when they believed there was useful opposition research on offer. Trump publicly asked Russia to hack into Clinton’s computers to find and release her missing emails.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...eller-indictments-manafort-gates-papadopolous

Papadopapopalolapadous has been cooperating with Mueller for months now. That may mean wearing a wire.
Manafort's in big trouble for taking cash from Russian linked Ukranians.
Ever wonder why Trump wouldn't release his taxes and why his son said they had tons of business in Russia?
Ever wonder who bailed him out last time he went bankrupt?
 

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But clearly Trump called for Russia to hack into Clinton's emails. Those emails were supposed to contain classified information. Did he want them to fall into Russia's hands?
Bull shit! I watched that speech. As a joke he proposed that Russians should find the missing emails.
 

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Bull shit! I watched that speech. As a joke he proposed that Russians should find the missing emails.
Maybe a joke to you, but if you watch the whole George Papadouolous itinerary that fits snugly into the time frame.
You can keep on making excuses but all those type of gaffes by Trump could be used in evidence later in the investigation. This is by no means the end of the Russia collusion, but just the beginning.
 

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Maybe a joke to you, but if you watch the whole George Papadouolous itinerary that fits snugly into the time frame.
You can keep on making excuses but all those type of gaffes by Trump could be used in evidence later in the investigation. This is by no means the end of the Russia collusion, but just the beginning.
No, you and your ilk are so invested, you lost all sense... of humor, too.
 

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Hahahahahaha!


https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...eller-indictments-manafort-gates-papadopolous

Papadopapopalolapadous has been cooperating with Mueller for months now. That may mean wearing a wire.
Manafort's in big trouble for taking cash from Russian linked Ukranians.
Ever wonder why Trump wouldn't release his taxes and why his son said they had tons of business in Russia?
Ever wonder who bailed him out last time he went bankrupt?
Even the panellists on Fox News agree that Papadoupolous was probably hardwired and that could lead to some damaging evidence on Manafort. After all he suggested the meeting with the Russians who had data on Clinton. The response to his suggestion requested a lower level Trump advisor to attend, so that it would not implicate the RNC.
 

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No, you and your ilk are so invested, you lost all sense... of humor, too.
Keep on believing what you want. If you call that "humour" then you do not have a sense of real humour.
 

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I've always said Trump will never get charged or impeached over this Russia stuff. So far I've been proven right
So you think he will get impeached for tax fraud or obstruction of justice instead of aiding and abetting his Campaign Manager in treasonous communication with a foreign enemy to help Trump's election in return to lifting Russian sanctions for invading the Ukraine ? That was removed from the GOP's platform at Trump's insistence. hmmm :confused:


Interesting that Trump's memory is so bad or his lack of loyalty .. maybe a bit of both - he has started his campaign rhetoric against Clinton on e-mails even though it has surfaced that both his son in law and his daughter have been doing the same thing. I guess Trump's sexual attraction to his daughter doesn't matter when jail could be on the horizon.

I bet Trump will try to use bone spurs to try and evade a court trial. :dance:
 

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So you think he will get impeached for tax fraud or obstruction of justice instead of aiding and abetting his Campaign Manager in treasonous communication with a foreign enemy to help Trump's election in return to lifting Russian sanctions for invading the Ukraine ? That was removed from the GOP's platform at Trump's insistence. hmmm :confused:


Interesting that Trump's memory is so bad or his lack of loyalty .. maybe a bit of both - he has started his campaign rhetoric against Clinton on e-mails even though it has surfaced that both his son in law and his daughter have been doing the same thing. I guess Trump's sexual attraction to his daughter doesn't matter when jail could be on the horizon.

I bet Trump will try to use bone spurs to try and evade a court trial. :dance:
I'm willing to make you an avatar bet that Trump will get neither criminally charged nor impeached!!

Are you willing to take the bet right now??
 

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The timeline is funny.
Papadopalapolous tries to set up a meeting between Trump and Russians who claim they have Clinton emails.
Trump calls for Russia to release them.
Wikileaks releases the emails.

Hey, Facebook says 126 million people saw propaganda ads from Russia during the election.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/30/media/russia-facebook-126-million-users/index.html
LOL!!! Do you honestly believe that ads turned Michigan for Trump? Or Wisconsin?!! How naive are you? HRC didn't even bother to campaign there while Trump was doing five rallies a day. She was fundraising with Barbara Streisand on Martha's Vineyard because the election was won. As they used to say in the old country- eat some fish heads, your memory is failing. Trump won on the message, that's why you can't find any collusion.
 

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LOL!!! Do you honestly believe that ads turned Michigan for Trump? Or Wisconsin?!! How naive are you? HRC didn't even bother to campaign there while Trump was doing five rallies a day. She was fundraising with Barbara Streisand on Martha's Vineyard because the election was won. As they used to say in the old country- eat some fish heads, your memory is failing. Trump won on the message, that's why you can't find any collusion.
The combination of Russian hacked emails, voter suppression and Facebook and social media attacks may have been enough for Trump to have lost the popular vote yet still one.
Yes.
 
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