F____ING Emissions Test

Esco!

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Just found out today my emission test for plate sticker renewal is only good for one farking year!!! :mad:
Stand in line for 30 minutes just to be informed of that.


I need a drink now
 

great bear

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Esco! said:
Just found out today my emission test for plate sticker renewal is only good for one farking year!!! :mad:
Stand in line for 30 minutes just to be informed of that.


I need a drink now
Did they catch you on camera?
 

The Bandit

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Yeah so.....it's good for one year, but you only have to do every 2 years. What's the hang up? Just check the Drive Clean website like I did earlier this week, you can email them any questions.
I noticed a large chain store by my place, that posted a notice in their service dept. advising customers that their machine was "out of service". "YEAH RIGHT"...you are under indefinite suspension! They have a list of garages that are under suspension, or are peramnently banned from any further testing.
 

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Esco! said:
Just found out today my emission test for plate sticker renewal is only good for one farking year!!! :mad:
Stand in line for 30 minutes just to be informed of that.


I need a drink now

If it makes you feel better.. there are many places in Canada where emission tests are not required!!
 

Esco!

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Papi Chulo said:
If it makes you feel better.. there are many places in Canada where emission tests are not required!!
It doesnt make me fell better since I dont live in those places
 
DaBig Aristotle said:
How? I believe this is a good policy as a process to get better with the environment. I wish the govt would go further and eliminate cars that are older than a certain vintage. That way, the govt would also be forced to improve the metro system as people would rely on it more.
Yeah really, who needs collector cars and muscle cars anyways.....better to restrict emission limits. Big business is the real culprit for pollution, but cars are the icing on the cake....wish somebody had the balls to go after the real problems.
Power generation stations are the biggest polluters around, and you just have to look at Hamilton to see the next worse.....
In B.C. the emission tests are by a private company out of the states that is guaranteed a minimum fee each year.... what they don't collect at the stations, the government tops it up.
I'm sure Fantasiasfan wouldn't mind someone chucking out his Lambo, and I'll throw in my classic muscle car too.....getting rid of older cars only benefits the car companies, who use metal from refineries....stick with emissions and invest in alternate technologies....
 
Esco! said:
Just one question, how can my 2001 pathfinder possibly emit bad emissions?????????
Tune-up? Bad plugs? Faulty Cat. Converter, EGR.... long list of things that could go wrong....and one that they don't tell.....if the vehicle in front is a bad polluter, it can crap out the machine for the next car.....
Another fault might be the tester.... if they don't put enough RPM in the load test it can fail it.

If you have looked after your vehicle, and they can't find anything wrong, then it might be the testers fault. Take it to another place and give it a try.
 

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DaBig Aristotle said:
How? I believe this is a good policy as a process to get better with the environment. I wish the govt would go further and eliminate cars that are older than a certain vintage. That way, the govt would also be forced to improve the metro system as people would rely on it more.
I would say Fireflint is right on this one. Why are there cars on the road that are within the years of testing, that you can see their exhaust at all hours of the day? There are "rice burners" and mini vans that come from the company with the "star" as their logo, that smoke down the road, burning oil, and or antifreeze, that somehow make it through an emissions test. The test is and always has been flawed. I know guys driving classic muscle cars, that have cleaner exhaust than some of the 80s and 90s 4 bangers out there, so don't go there.
 

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DistantVoyeur said:
Yeah really, who needs collector cars and muscle cars anyways.....better to restrict emission limits. Big business is the real culprit for pollution, but cars are the icing on the cake....wish somebody had the balls to go after the real problems.
Power generation stations are the biggest polluters around, and you just have to look at Hamilton to see the next worse.....
In B.C. the emission tests are by a private company out of the states that is guaranteed a minimum fee each year.... what they don't collect at the stations, the government tops it up.
I'm sure Fantasiasfan wouldn't mind someone chucking out his Lambo, and I'll throw in my classic muscle car too.....getting rid of older cars only benefits the car companies, who use metal from refineries....stick with emissions and invest in alternate technologies....
Maybe we could get DaBig to lobby the Gov't to make all old cars go propane. NOT!!!!!

Esco, I've heard of fuel additives that you put in the last two tanks of gas before a test, and they help. Also a good run on the hwy to clean the carbon out the day before the test. City driving can't be good for emission tests.
 

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pussylicker said:
There are "rice burners" and mini vans that come from the company with the "star" as their logo, that smoke down the road, burning oil, and or antifreeze, that somehow make it through an emissions test. The test is and always has been flawed. I know guys driving classic muscle cars, that have cleaner exhaust than some of the 80s and 90s 4 bangers out there, so don't go there.
I didn't know GM, and Ford 4, 6, and 8 cylinders were immune to creating pollution. It seems you only mention Chrysler and Japanese.
 

james t kirk

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Personally, I don't think the tests are enforced properly.

As far as I am concerned, your car fails the test, your plate should be pulled right there and then until such time as you effect repairs.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that if your vehicle fails the test, you are only required to spend 300 bucks and then you get a a get out of jail free card.

My opinion is that if your car fails, you should have to repair it to whatever extent, regardless of cost, it takes to pass the test.

If your car is a P.O.S. it should be off the road. If you need a new engine for 10 grand, then you need to spend 10 grand. No exceptions EVER.

Further, these tests should be being done by the gov't, not Joe's garage who runs the car on Methyl Hydrate, or fakes the results.
 

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The Bandit said:
I didn't know GM, and Ford 4, 6, and 8 cylinders were immune to creating pollution. It seems you only mention Chrysler and Japanese.
I didn't say either, because I could be sued for defamation, but obviously you can r/e/a/d b/e/t/w/e/e/n the l/i/n/e/s. I haven't seen that many 8cyl smoke like a certain mini van, or the two stroke imported sewing machines from overseas. I don't pay attention to 4 or 6cyl GM, as I'm not a fan, but seeing as the mini van with the "star" seems to be the number one seller in Canada, you can't miss seeing at least a couple a day smoking down the road.
 

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If you live in East End (Scarborough) there is a drive thru emissions place. It is at Warden about 1 km south of 401 (east side of Warden before you get to Ellesmere).

All they do is emissions tests. Drve in, test, drive out. No BS.

If your lucky you will be in and out in about 30 - 40mins if there is no line up.

Works like an assemblely line they do 2 cars/trucks at at time. It costs about $40 - $60 (forget).
 

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james t kirk said:
As far as I am concerned, your car fails the test, your plate should be pulled right there and then until such time as you effect repairs.

My opinion is that if your car fails, you should have to repair it to whatever extent, regardless of cost, it takes to pass the test.

If your car is a P.O.S. it should be off the road. If you need a new engine for 10 grand, then you need to spend 10 grand. No exceptions EVER.

Further, these tests should be being done by the gov't, not Joe's garage who runs the car on Methyl Hydrate, or fakes the results.
So Canadian Tire fakes the results? I don't trust the Gov't, so I'll take my chances with Joe's garage.

A question for you. What is the poverty level at in Canada? Approx dollar amount. And how many people work for minimum wage and need to drive to get to work? And where are they going to get $10,000 from?

Sorry but I guess that was 3 questions. Oh well, the pass is a one time thing, and the Gov't is being lenient, so as to not create hardship. You can't have a second fail, but it gives you time to afford a newer engine, or another vehicle before you have to get tested again, if you are one of the unfortunate ones that works for minimum wage.

Give your head a shake.
 

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I think the money and time spent on the Drive Clean program could be used to help the environment much more effectively some other way.

A few years ago, a friend recommended a product (a fuel additive, I think) at Canadian Tire that would guarantee a pass. I'm not sure if you had to get the test done there, but even if not, it seems to imply the test is bogus (easily cheated).
 
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pussylicker said:
So Canadian Tire fakes the results? I don't trust the Gov't, so I'll take my chances with Joe's garage.

A question for you. What is the poverty level at in Canada? Approx dollar amount. And how many people work for minimum wage and need to drive to get to work? And where are they going to get $10,000 from?

Sorry but I guess that was 3 questions. Oh well, the pass is a one time thing, and the Gov't is being lenient, so as to not create hardship. You can't have a second fail, but it gives you time to afford a newer engine, or another vehicle before you have to get tested again, if you are one of the unfortunate ones that works for minimum wage.

Give your head a shake.
The Repair Cost Limit is not only in place to give the person driving a failed car a break, it also helps control which technicians work on the car.

In order to get the conditional pass, the work has to be completed by a Drive Clean certified technician. These certified technicians studied emission diagnostics and passed a test regulated by Protect Air (a private company that runs the Drive Clean program for Ontario and many other emission programs over the world).

This conditional pass forces the public to get the emission diagnostics and repairs done by a certified professional who knows what they are doing.
 

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I've yet to see a car of any age that emits near as much smoke as a chimney from a fireplace or wood stove or all those backyard camp fires that people have in the summertime. Many nights I cannot open a window because the smell of smoke is so strong. Yet the government doesn't seem at all concerned about them. The Drive Clean program is just another way for the government to grab more of your money while looking like they are doing something about a problem when in fact they really aren't.
 
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