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Mr. Piggy

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Everytime they made changes it unlocked my settings. Then they went to that fucking timeline shit page, so I deleted it.
 

thebigwoof

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Exactly true, try logging into the account you think you deleted. You'll find it's still there and fully intact, the only thing it really does is removes your profile for all your friends to see. I'm sure in the terms of service it says somewhere that anything you post becomes property of facebook, this includes pictures and videos. Do a google image search for your name, you might be surprised to find pics of yourself from facebook.
Wrong. You think you deleted it. What you actually did is hide it. FB still has all of your details.

Most of these programmes harvest information that you are unaware of. Linkedin is constantly suggesting I connect with certain people and they only way it cold have known of a "relationship" was by harvesting my contact manager. I have friends I have made when I travel that are in my Outlook list, but I have no business relationship with them, and they move in circles entirely unrelated to my normal "sphere".

I've had a few conversations over the years with people about data mining, tracking and cookies. I suggested that they imagine Ma Bell quietly monitoring all of our telephone conversations for, for example, hints that were were shopping for a new stove. Ma Bell discovers I am contacting the Joe's Appliances and Sears looking for a stove so they take that information and sell it to the Future Shop and The Brick, who then start calling me... "We hear you want to buy a new stove..." . People would be horrified.

Well, welcome to the Internet. If you connect, odds are your privacy is being violated in ways you can't imagine. I always use "private browsing" in Firefox, never save cookies and I am under the impression that this prevents "snooping", although I really don't know!

And certainly, I don't put anything serious on FB, and what I do put out there is only available to friends.
 

onthebottom

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I have been a reluctant user of Facebook because my family is so addicted - any private family news, events etc is now posted on Facebook.

I have warned friends and family that the games (farming, astrology, etc) all give private companies the rights to copy their friends along with personal data. Still I got game invites. Most deplorable in my mind is that any change in relationship status such as 'in relationship' to 'single' is broadcast across Facebook.

I am a good guy and not ugly so I have friends I meet through hobbying that like to expand our relation outside a business relationship. One such person gave me their Facebook contact insisting that I add them on as a friend. I did and noticed (not sure what Facebook page) a list of years for posts. I got curious and started sifting through her past posts. I wasn't trying to pry into her past but I was fascinated by the details of her life that was laid bare by Facebook.

I could click the years and back track to boyfriends, love gone wrong, heartache .. then click on the lovers and find out their stories and relationships. Basically in 30 minutes I knew more than if I hired a detective. I really wonder if Homeland or CISIS need to exist since people bare their lives willingly on Facebook.

Considering that Facebook is now a publicly traded company under tremendous pressure to make money data mining and selling advertising - I can see things getting out of control easily.
How is this different than Google?
 

needinit

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It's not, except that people are not purposely posting their information to google...they use it to search (which google mines)...different type of information being collected
 

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Dream_State

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Facebook is a data mining dream come true for the CIA and Homeland Security. :attention:
I actually saw on a DEA documentary them using Facebook to check out the drug dealer they had under surveillance. The moron was posting everything he was doing on FB, and photos of the people he was selling drugs too. the DEA agents were laughing and saying it's making their job easy... they used his up to date photos from FB to tail the guy through the airport and arrest him with the coke.... thanks to Face Book!
 

thirdcup

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When Bill Gates joined facebook he said it was great. Then some time later on he left. This was news. He said it took up too much of his time and he was always be deluged with friend requests from - basically everyone. I think people saw him as a trophy - I'm friends with Bill Gates. I know that for many high school kids it's a competitive sport. ie: I have more friends than you. However, after reading some of the drivel that some people post I can only conclude that they and their audience were meant for each other. I still can't fathom why anyone would think I take an interest in knowing that this morning they had to skip toast because their bread had mould, or they found a missing sock under the fridge. I understand that it's a good way to spread news about your life, or bigger events, but all too often, what passes for news these days just makes me shake my head.

By the way, I never joined facebook, and that suits me just fine. And I've never missed out on anything important, in family matters or anything else.
 

onthebottom

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It's not, except that people are not purposely posting their information to google...they use it to search (which google mines)...different type of information being collected
This is the point, as you said, with FB people are volunteering their information, Google on the other hand grabs it when you use one of it's services - having a monopoly on search guarantees their data mining position.
 

IM469

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This is the point, as you said, with FB people are volunteering their information, Google on the other hand grabs it when you use one of it's services - having a monopoly on search guarantees their data mining position.
Huge Difference. Google is looking at search habits - Facebook is publishing personal information. People have committed suicide from personal information on the internet. Try the same stunt with a Google search. People have lost their jobs because employees have been able to look at personal conversations directed at friends - try that on a Google.

Of course Facebook didn't develop a fantastic O/S for mobile systems that now is in 80% of new mobile devices. I guess that could help some people to leap the logic required to compare Facebook & a Google search engine.
 

onthebottom

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Huge Difference. Google is looking at search habits - Facebook is publishing personal information. People have committed suicide from personal information on the internet. Try the same stunt with a Google search. People have lost their jobs because employees have been able to look at personal conversations directed at friends - try that on a Google.

Of course Facebook didn't develop a fantastic O/S for mobile systems that now is in 80% of new mobile devices. I guess that could help some people to leap the logic required to compare Facebook & a Google search engine.
It is a huge difference, on FB people explicitly share their information - sometimes unwisely - but they do it, with Google customer data is stolen through the use of web services and Android (the reason Google doesn't mind making zero money on Android) - they simply wanted to dupe the public into carrying a mobile data capture device. Didn't you see the thread where danmand opened up Google and the letters were spelled out in birthday cake because it was his birthday..... Private sector NAS operation for ad selling instead of terrorist hunting.
 
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