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Ford passed the legislation for ripping up the bike lanes TODAY!!

Skoob

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Great post.

As if a few kms of local, neighborhood bike lanes in downtown Toronto and its inner core have any effect at all on the multi-millions of single motor vehicle drivers who are the cause of the monumental, world's worst, GTA wide congestion and gridlock.

That's pure Fraudian craven bullshit as usual.
Do you think every car that you see downtown is driven by someone who lives downtown?
Do you assume everyone who drives a car is capable of riding a bike?
Do you think the number of cars is decreasing?
Do you think that removing 25-50% of roadway will actually make traffic better for the cars you don't think exist?
 

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Anbarandy

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Do you think every car that you see downtown is driven by someone who lives downtown?
Do you assume everyone who drives a car is capable of riding a bike?
Do you think the number of cars is decreasing?
Do you think that removing 25-50% of roadway will actually make traffic better for the cars you don't think exist?
Do you think every bike you see downtown is ridden by someone who lives in Timbuktu?
Do you assume that everyone who rides a bike doesn't also drive a car?
Do you think the number of bikes in Toronto are decreasing?
Do you think that removing a few kms of local neighborhood bike lanes in downtown Toronto and its inner core will make the world's worst, GTA wide, single occupant motor vehicle driver caused congestion and gridlock better for the single occupant motor vehicle drivers you don't think are the actual, but in reality are the true cause, of congestion and gridlock?

Jimmy Olsen, you ain't.
 
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Skoob

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Do you think every bike you see downtown is ridden by someone who lives in Timbuktu?
Do you assume that everyone who rides a bike doesn't also drive a car?
Do you think the number of bikes in Toronto are decreasing?
Do you think that removing a few kms of local neighborhood bike lanes in downtown Toronto and its inner core will make the world's worst, GTA wide, single occupant motor vehicle driver caused congestion and gridlock better for the single occupant motor vehicle drivers you don't think are the actual, but in reality are the true cause, of congestion and gridlock?

Jimmy Olsen, you ain't.
Do you think most cyclists travel 30km+ each way into downtown during the winter?

Do you want to remove all the bike lanes at the same time rather than a few to start, to prove even faster that traffic will improve?

Do you want to keep answering my questions with questions to keep proving your ignorance?
 
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Do you think every car that you see downtown is driven by someone who lives downtown?
I'm sure many of the cars are, and many are not. I'm sure many of those single occupants in their car have never considered another mode of transport.
Either way, every car that you see downtown is benefiting from those bikelanes.

Do you assume everyone who drives a car is capable of riding a bike?
No, but most are, but that's irrelevant. Nobody is asking everyone who drives a car not to drive a car. We are asking that people stop dying.
Do you think the number of cars is decreasing?
Yes, and data supports this. It's cited in the video posted above.
Do you think that removing 25-50% of roadway will actually make traffic better for the cars you don't think exist?
Yes, and data supports this. It's cited in the video posted above.
Do you think most cyclists travel 30km+ each way into downtown during the winter?
Irrelevant.
Do you want to remove all the bike lanes at the same time rather than a few to start, to prove even faster that traffic will improve?
No need to test the waters, there's plenty of data that demonstrates traffic improves when bike lanes are installed. It's cited in the video posted above.
Do you want to keep answering my questions with questions to keep proving your ignorance?
No. Watch the video posted above.
 
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Skoob

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I'm sure many of the cars are, and many are not. I'm sure many of those single occupants in their car have never considered another mode of transport.
Either way, every car that you see downtown is benefiting from those bikelanes.


No, but most are, but that's irrelevant. Nobody is asking everyone who drives a car not to drive a car. We are asking that people stop dying.

Yes, and data supports this. It's cited in the video posted above.

Yes, and data supports this. It's cited in the video posted above.

Irrelevant.

No need to test the waters, there's plenty of data that demonstrates traffic improves when bike lanes are installed. It's cited in the video posted above.

No. Watch the video posted above.
That youtube video is a biased source of information created by someone with no accreditations that I can find for civil design and it's comparing Toronto to Amsterdam. Have you compared the weather and population density between these cities? I'm going to assume you haven't.

Distance travelled is not irrelevant. It's a deciding factor for most people when choosing the mode of transportation they will use.

"Asking for people to stop dying"...yeah not too dramatical of a comment there. How about stop riding a bike in traffic if you don't want to increase your chances of dying? Does that work?

I'm going to stop there because it's obvious you are uninformed and are dying on the hill of biased youtube videos as your source of truth and making generalizations based on nothing else.

btw you still think the number of vehicles is decreasing? You may want to check your facts before spreading misinformation to justify your narrative.
https://www.statcan.gc.ca/en/topics-start/automotive

https://www.ibisworld.com/ca/bed/number-of-motor-vehicle-registrations/15056/
 

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Do you think most cyclists travel 30km+ each way into downtown during the winter?

Do you want to remove all the bike lanes at the same time rather than a few to start, to prove even faster that traffic will improve?

Do you want to keep answering my questions with questions to keep proving your ignorance?
Do you think most single occupant motorists' travel less than 30kms to buy a stick of gum during a mid-summer's night dreary?

Do you want to add speed bumps, planters, roundabouts, stop signs, stop lights and every other conceivable road calming measure imaginable to prove motor vehicle traffic will disappear faster, better and more happily?

Do you wanna still play Jimmy Olsen?
 

Anbarandy

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That youtube video is a biased source of information created by someone with no accreditations that I can find for civil design and it's comparing Toronto to Amsterdam. Have you compared the weather and population density between these cities? I'm going to assume you haven't.

Distance travelled is not irrelevant. It's a deciding factor for most people when choosing the mode of transportation they will use.

"Asking for people to stop dying"...yeah not too dramatical of a comment there. How about stop riding a bike in traffic if you don't want to increase your chances of dying? Does that work?

I'm going to stop there because it's obvious you are uninformed and are dying on the hill of biased youtube videos as your source of truth and making generalizations based on nothing else.

btw you still think the number of vehicles is decreasing? You may want to check your facts before spreading misinformation to justify your narrative.
https://www.statcan.gc.ca/en/topics-start/automotive

https://www.ibisworld.com/ca/bed/number-of-motor-vehicle-registrations/15056/
How the auditor’s report perfectly sums up The Doug Ford Way of running the province
Updated Dec. 6, 2024 at 5:58 p.m.

By Edward Keenan City Columnist
Edward Keenan is a Toronto-based city columnist for the Star. Reach him via email: ekeenan@thestar.ca

There’s a phrase in provincial auditor general Shelley Spence’s report that could, by now, serve as a slogan for Doug Ford’s government: “Without proper planning.”

That was her description, in Tuesday’s annual report, of how the decision to close supervised-consumption drug sites was made.

But six years into the life of a government that has always shown an eagerness to fire before it aims, it seems more like an all-purpose description of The Doug Ford Way.

The report contains plenty of other language that might seem jolting when applied to government actions, but by now seems overly familiar. The decisions to issue minister’s zoning orders (or MZOs)were “not fair, transparent or accountable.” The assessment process for the Ontario Place redevelopment was “irregular” and “subjective,” and “rules and guidelines … were not followed.”

Another description of MZOs that may as well be a shorthand summary of this government’s standard operating procedure: “no protocol and no apparent rationale.”

Those descriptions could easily describe any number of the Ford government’s other moves: slashing the size of Toronto’s city government and reorganizing other GTA governments in the middle of an election campaign; the whole

Greenbelt hokey-pokey; trying to slash funding to Toronto Public Health a year before a global pandemic; the eventually reversed decision to change municipal boundaries; the eventually reversed decision to dissolve Peel region; the recent move to rip out bike lanes in Toronto.

The list is not exhaustive.

There are a few themes there that are at the forefront of Spence’s report. Decisions seem to be made quickly and on impulse, according to either the political whims and vendettas of the premier or the backroom desires of developers and corporate interests. Traditional accountability checks or analysis of impacts are discarded. Rinse, repeat.

Sometimes, Ford and his government reverse course when it becomes clear that what they are doing is phenomenally stupid and massively unpopular. But a willingness to admit a mistake has never caused them to pause and think before steamrolling forward into the next big blunder. If it wasn’t for hindsight, they wouldn’t have any kind of sight at all. Ford may be willing to change his mind, but he has never changed his ways.

So where does that leave us?

Well, in the case of Ontario Place, we see that some bidders had closed-door meetings with the premier’s staff and other government officials (despite this being explicitly prohibited) and that they “had direct access to an Infrastructure Ontario executive.” Rules for assessing the bids were not clear and were not followed.

And the redevelopment costs to be borne by the province have more than quadrupled to $2.237 billion.

Ford government’s Ontario Place redevelopment was ‘not fair, transparent or accountable,’ auditor general finds in scathing report

It certainly isn’t reassuring, in this context, to note that Infrastructure Ontario CEO Michael Lindsay, who took over after the conduct the auditor uncovered, but well before the Ontario Place deal was finalized, is taking over as interim head of Metrolinx to try to push the Eglinton Crosstown (and assorted other projects) across the finish line.

Nor is Spence’s finding that two of the three other Infrastructure Ontario projects she reviewed were behind schedule and over budget, including one hospital that was $4 billion over budget.

Oh, and the cost of moving the Ontario Science Centre to Ontario Place has ballooned such that it is now more expensive than the estimates for rehabbing the old building.

On supervised injection sites, the auditor notes harm reduction strategies that prevented 1,500 deaths from overdoses are being discontinued without proper planning or impact analysis. Which sounds like a roundabout way to say people are likely to die.

If there’s another thing that has defined Ford’s government it’s boastfulness — and that’s in the auditor’s report, too. The government tripled its advertising spending in one year (to $103.5 million), setting an Ontario government record. The report concludes that about 62 per cent of these dollars were essentially partisan: their primary objective was “to promote the governing party.”

If the ad bonanza continues into what is expected to be an election year next year, the report does offer some fantastic, auditor-approved tag lines. “Ontario: no protocol and no apparent rationale” has a certain ring to it. The ring of truth.
 

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I'll be honest, I've been waiting for Not Just Bikes to make a video about this ridiculous and backwards legislation, because I knew this urban video essayist would present a far more coherent and better researched and more detailed (and more humourous) rebuttal than I ever could (or have the energy for) against this insult to all Ontarians, especially Torontonians.

Bike lanes do not make traffic worse, anyone that tells you otherwise is incorrect or lying. It's a simple as that. Removing bike lines will lead to more cars (and more cars = more congestion, in case that's not obvious), an economic hit for local businesses... oh, and more death. But even if you ignore the selfish desire to get to work 30 seconds sooner at the expense of someone's life, then even still, why on earth would anyone want MORE cars on the roads, instead of fewer?

Anyways, without further ado, please enjoy a very good analysis of the absurdity of "The World's Dumbest Bike Lane Law", by Not Just Bikes:
Here's what I noticed over and over again in that video... "A LANE FOR PARKED CARS!" I've been saying this over and over... We're dedicating a full lane to parking yet they're blaming bikes. As Bugs would say... "what a maroon!"

Cancel all on-street parking. Ticket HEAVILY anyone disrupting traffic with their fucking 4-ways flashers. Designated UBER pick up spots (which is a THING in most major cities) off main arteries.

Slight disruptions in flow are caused by blocked lanes, blocked intersections, people selfishly holding up traffic to fix their own mistakes. Start enforcing the rule of law on the road. Hand out tickets. Get cops in major intersections to keep people moving. People are sheep. You keep them moving they move. One stops, they all stop. Bad habits get ignored. Everyone picks up that bad habit. We've all seen the slow decline in the "rules of the road".

Deal with the pinch points.
 
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Do you think most single occupant motorists' travel less than 30kms to buy a stick of gum during a mid-summer's night dreary?

Do you want to add speed bumps, planters, roundabouts, stop signs, stop lights and every other conceivable road calming measure imaginable to prove motor vehicle traffic will disappear faster, better and more happily?

Do you wanna still play Jimmy Olsen?
Do you think everyone lives a 10 minute walk from wherever they need to go?
Do you think most cyclists using bike lanes are senior citizens who hate driving and just waiting to wipeout and break a hip on a bike?
How about single occupant delivery people bringing you your daily supplies? Should they be delivering skids of 50lb bags of potatoes on their bikes?
Do you think motorists on the Gardiner, QEW, DVP and 427 are all just staying on those roads and not coming into city streets? You know...the vehicles that you think don't exist?
 

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How the auditor’s report perfectly sums up The Doug Ford Way of running the province
Updated Dec. 6, 2024 at 5:58 p.m.

By Edward Keenan City Columnist
Edward Keenan is a Toronto-based city columnist for the Star. Reach him via email: ekeenan@thestar.ca

There’s a phrase in provincial auditor general Shelley Spence’s report that could, by now, serve as a slogan for Doug Ford’s government: “Without proper planning.”

That was her description, in Tuesday’s annual report, of how the decision to close supervised-consumption drug sites was made.

But six years into the life of a government that has always shown an eagerness to fire before it aims, it seems more like an all-purpose description of The Doug Ford Way.

The report contains plenty of other language that might seem jolting when applied to government actions, but by now seems overly familiar. The decisions to issue minister’s zoning orders (or MZOs)were “not fair, transparent or accountable.” The assessment process for the Ontario Place redevelopment was “irregular” and “subjective,” and “rules and guidelines … were not followed.”

Another description of MZOs that may as well be a shorthand summary of this government’s standard operating procedure: “no protocol and no apparent rationale.”

Those descriptions could easily describe any number of the Ford government’s other moves: slashing the size of Toronto’s city government and reorganizing other GTA governments in the middle of an election campaign; the whole

Greenbelt hokey-pokey; trying to slash funding to Toronto Public Health a year before a global pandemic; the eventually reversed decision to change municipal boundaries; the eventually reversed decision to dissolve Peel region; the recent move to rip out bike lanes in Toronto.

The list is not exhaustive.

There are a few themes there that are at the forefront of Spence’s report. Decisions seem to be made quickly and on impulse, according to either the political whims and vendettas of the premier or the backroom desires of developers and corporate interests. Traditional accountability checks or analysis of impacts are discarded. Rinse, repeat.

Sometimes, Ford and his government reverse course when it becomes clear that what they are doing is phenomenally stupid and massively unpopular. But a willingness to admit a mistake has never caused them to pause and think before steamrolling forward into the next big blunder. If it wasn’t for hindsight, they wouldn’t have any kind of sight at all. Ford may be willing to change his mind, but he has never changed his ways.

So where does that leave us?

Well, in the case of Ontario Place, we see that some bidders had closed-door meetings with the premier’s staff and other government officials (despite this being explicitly prohibited) and that they “had direct access to an Infrastructure Ontario executive.” Rules for assessing the bids were not clear and were not followed.

And the redevelopment costs to be borne by the province have more than quadrupled to $2.237 billion.

Ford government’s Ontario Place redevelopment was ‘not fair, transparent or accountable,’ auditor general finds in scathing report

It certainly isn’t reassuring, in this context, to note that Infrastructure Ontario CEO Michael Lindsay, who took over after the conduct the auditor uncovered, but well before the Ontario Place deal was finalized, is taking over as interim head of Metrolinx to try to push the Eglinton Crosstown (and assorted other projects) across the finish line.

Nor is Spence’s finding that two of the three other Infrastructure Ontario projects she reviewed were behind schedule and over budget, including one hospital that was $4 billion over budget.

Oh, and the cost of moving the Ontario Science Centre to Ontario Place has ballooned such that it is now more expensive than the estimates for rehabbing the old building.

On supervised injection sites, the auditor notes harm reduction strategies that prevented 1,500 deaths from overdoses are being discontinued without proper planning or impact analysis. Which sounds like a roundabout way to say people are likely to die.

If there’s another thing that has defined Ford’s government it’s boastfulness — and that’s in the auditor’s report, too. The government tripled its advertising spending in one year (to $103.5 million), setting an Ontario government record. The report concludes that about 62 per cent of these dollars were essentially partisan: their primary objective was “to promote the governing party.”

If the ad bonanza continues into what is expected to be an election year next year, the report does offer some fantastic, auditor-approved tag lines. “Ontario: no protocol and no apparent rationale” has a certain ring to it. The ring of truth.
blah blah blah...no one cares what biased columnists have to say. They're trying to remain relevant as their paper teeters on the verge of bankruptcy.
Taxpayers are the ones that matter. And the ones that matter know DoFO and his government have been doing a great job.

Don't believe me?

How many majority governments has DoFo been elected to?

You think that happens because most voters don't agree with him?
 

Anbarandy

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Do you think everyone lives a 10 minute walk from wherever they need to go?
Do you think most cyclists using bike lanes are senior citizens who hate driving and just waiting to wipeout and break a hip on a bike?
How about single occupant delivery people bringing you your daily supplies? Should they be delivering skids of 50lb bags of potatoes on their bikes?
Do you think motorists on the Gardiner, QEW, DVP and 427 are all just staying on those roads and not coming into city streets? You know...the vehicles that you think don't exist?
Do you think Millicent from Milton, Ridley from Richmond Hill and Prickly Pete from Peterborough lives a 100 minute walk from wherever they need to go?
Do you think most drivers are fat, lazy and have atrophied muscles from doing nothing but standing still in congestion and gridlock?
How about the 85,000 single occupant rideshare drivers driving around and around like zombies waiting to earn their $5/hr? Should they be delivering 150 pound sacks of shit in their car?
Do you think motorists on the Gardiner, QEW, DVP and 427 are all just stuck in the mess of congestion and gridlock of their own making? You know .... the millions of motor vehicles and their single occupants that you don't think exist?

These are all very important questions that need thoughful response, Jimmy Olsen.
 

Anbarandy

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blah blah blah...no one cares what biased columnists have to say. They're trying to remain relevant as their paper teeters on the verge of bankruptcy.
Taxpayers are the ones that matter. And the ones that matter know DoFO and his government have been doing a great job.

Don't believe me?

How many majority governments has DoFo been elected to?

You think that happens because most voters don't agree with him?
You seem all bummed out there Skoob.

Read the following, it should cure what ails you:


Ford government’s Ontario Place redevelopment was ‘not fair, transparent or accountable,’ auditor general finds in scathing report
Additionally, Ford’s decision to close supervised drug consumption sites near schools and daycares was made “without proper planning,” the AG said.
Updated Dec. 6, 2024 at 12:00 p.m.


By Robert BenzieQueen’s Park Bureau Chief, Rob FergusonQueen’s Park Bureau, and Kristin RushowyQueen’s Park Bureau

Costs to taxpayers have soared because Premier Doug Ford‘s controversial Ontario Place redevelopment scheme was “not fair, transparent or accountable” — and his use of minister’s zoning orders is haphazard, the auditor general has found.

The Progressive Conservatives’ $2.237-billion revamp of the waterfront park — five to six times their original estimate — was “irregular” and not done using “best practices for large-scale, modern land-use development projects,” the auditor said Tuesday.

In a scathing 941-page annual report to the legislature, auditor Shelley Spence also found Ford’s decision to close 10 supervised drug consumption sites near schools and daycares was made “without proper planning.”

Nor was there anything done to mitigate an “increased risk of overdoses” likely to end up in hospital emergency rooms that are already overcrowded.

Against the backdrop of the $8.28-billion Greenbelt land swap scandal now under criminal investigation by the RCMP, Spence was withering about the Ontario Place project and Ford’s penchant for MZOs, a tool used to override local planning decisions.

Shuttered by the previous Liberal government in 2012, the lakeside icon will eventually be home to a Therme waterpark and spa, a relocated Ontario Science Centre and an expanded Live Nation concert venue as well as a parking garage that could cost between $280 million and $400 million.

“We found that the social and environmental benefits of redevelopment were not factored into the assessment framework or considered in the redevelopment, including in the lease negotiations with anchor tenants,” the auditor said, emphasizing “rules and guidelines ... were not followed.”

“We found that the (call for development) process and realty decisions were not fair, transparent or accountable to all participants,” the auditor said.

Spence, who succeeded long-time auditor Bonnie Lysyk in January, found Ontario Place redevelopment costs to the province have ballooned by a staggering $1.8 billion to an estimated $2.237 billion. At one point, the government anticipated it would cost as little as $335 million.

Her audit said that “contrary to the protocol” for negotiations involving developers, three unidentified suitors met privately with staff from the premier’s and minister’s offices in June and July 2019.

As well, some would-be bidders “had direct access to an Infrastructure Ontario (IO) executive,” who exchanged nine emails and had one phone call with Therme’s legal counsel after news broke about company’s plans.

Unusually, “minutes of meetings with participants were not kept” so it is not known whether everyone involved “had equal access to the information that was shared” at those closed-door confabs.

In a statement Tuesday, Therme said “the bid process was clear to us, and any questions we may have had were answered within the process prior to the close of the submissions deadline.”

“Therme Group followed IO’s process and fully complied with its requirements at every stage in our submission and negotiation,” the Austrian company said.

Deputy Premier Sylvia Jones pushed back at the auditor.

“We have not bypassed due process,” insisted Jones, defending the government’s actions on many fronts.

“It speaks to our interest and our motivation to get things done,” she said, in a nod to the Tories’ 2022 campaign slogan, Get It Done.

But NDP Leader Marit Stiles said the report exposes a “government that’s off the rails.”

“They do whatever they want at an enormous cost to the people of Ontario,” said Stiles.

Liberal Leader Bonnie Crombie decried “Doug Ford’s shady backroom deals.”

“This report lays bare the results of that choice,” said Crombie.

Toronto Mayor Olivia Chow said the audit “seems like a big problem,” but has nothing to do with the city since Ontario Place falls within the “provincial mandate.”

Ontario Place for All, a community group opposed to the project, urged the government to “end the lease now” with Therme.

On MZOs, there appeared to be no rhyme or reason to the rezoning orders, which have fallen out of favour at Queen’s Park since the Mounties began probing the Greenbelt debacle 14 months ago.

“The ministry does not consistently provide the minister with timely and complete information relating to the projects proposed for an MZO,” wrote Spence, who said the orders to allow housing or industrial development on agricultural land increases its value by an average of 46 per cent.

“We also found there was no protocol and no apparent rationale for prioritizing some MZO requests over others,” the auditor said, pointing out the minister’s office “often selected which of the MZO requests to work on.”

The auditor examined all 114 zoning orders issued between 2019 and 2023 “and found none of them contained an assessment as to whether the MZO was necessary.”

She said MZO use has skyrocketed under Ford — between 1946 and 1998 there were an average of six such orders annually. From 1999 to 2018 that plunged to one MZO per year. But from 2019 through 2023 there were an average of 23 MZOs a year.

Municipal Affairs Minister Paul Calandra said the government is already rectifying the MZO process to weed out land speculators.

“Any MZO that we approve has to be followed up with a shovel in the ground. If it’s not, then I won’t hesitate to revoke it,” said Calandra.

Green Leader Mike Schreiner blasted the Tories’ “total lack of due diligence when reviewing MZOs that could pave over our farmland and wetlands without any consultation whatsoever.”

The annual audit was an indictment of the government’s opioid strategy, which passed into law Monday night.
Spence said closing 10 of 17 supervised consumption sites in favour of 19 HART Hubs (Homelessness and Addiction Recovery Treatment) would leave a deadly service gap — something advocates have been feared since the plan was announced in August.

Opening next spring, the hubs will provide 375 supportive housing units and addiction recovery and treatment beds but no supervised drug consumption, safe supply of narcotics or needle exchanges.
Ford has called consumption sites a “failed policy” that are being restricted over concerns about community safety — including the killing of mother-of-two Karolina Huebner-Makurat by a stray bullet outside a Leslieville site last summer.

Spence, however, predicted community outrage could linger if drug users are overdosing on streets and discarding needles.

She went on to slam the province for taking too long to investigate potential fraud under the Ontario Immigrant Nominee Program. In about 20 per cent of cases where misrepresentation was found, the applicant had already received permanent residency from the federal government.

Despite spending $100 million over the last decade to digitize services such as health card and driver’s licence renewals, more than half of service options still aren’t available online — and for those that are, customer satisfaction is low, she added.

Concerns were also raised about cybersecurity at ServiceOntario outlets — 70 per cent are privately operated and the rest are public — with the auditor saying some locations “lacked proper controls to safeguard Ontarians’ personal data from unauthorized access” by staff.

Finally, Spence’s audit looked at government advertising, which tripled in one year to $103.5 million in 2023-24 from $33.7 million in 2022-23.

That’s “the most the government has ever spent on advertising in a year” and includes commercials promoting Ontario that aired during the Super Bowl and in NHL games.

The spending boost comes as Ford is considering a spring election, one year ahead of the scheduled June 2026 vote.
 

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Do you think Millicent from Milton, Ridley from Richmond Hill and Prickly Pete from Peterborough lives a 100 minute walk from wherever they need to go?
Do you think most drivers are fat, lazy and have atrophied muscles from doing nothing but standing still in congestion and gridlock?
How about the 85,000 single occupant rideshare drivers driving around and around like zombies waiting to earn their $5/hr? Should they be delivering 150 pound sacks of shit in their car?
Do you think motorists on the Gardiner, QEW, DVP and 427 are all just stuck in the mess of congestion and gridlock of their own making? You know .... the millions of motor vehicles and their single occupants that you don't think exist?

These are all very important questions that need thoughful response, Jimmy Olsen.
Do you think everyone wants to depend (i.e. be forced) on public transit to get in & out of the city?
Do you think you have the right to force people to not drive by themselves if they want to?
Do you think the public will benefit from having less transportation choices like rideshare or will it just make people want to drive their cars even more?
Do you expect people to just walk where they need to go so that your UberEATS biker can get you your tacos faster?
Do you want to control people's choices to drive their cars because you think riding your bike takes precedence over anyone else's transportation choices comrade?


Vehicles s aren't going away or declining in use just because downtowners think no one else exists. Say that over and over to yourself comrade or you'll continue e to be disappointed when your ideology crumbles around you like it is now.

ps tell us your not a downtown elitist without telling us you're a downtown elitist.
 
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Skoob

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You seem all bummed out there Skoob.

Read the following, it should cure what ails you:


Ford government’s Ontario Place redevelopment was ‘not fair, transparent or accountable,’ auditor general finds in scathing report
Additionally, Ford’s decision to close supervised drug consumption sites near schools and daycares was made “without proper planning,” the AG said.
Updated Dec. 6, 2024 at 12:00 p.m.


By Robert BenzieQueen’s Park Bureau Chief, Rob FergusonQueen’s Park Bureau, and Kristin RushowyQueen’s Park Bureau

Costs to taxpayers have soared because Premier Doug Ford‘s controversial Ontario Place redevelopment scheme was “not fair, transparent or accountable” — and his use of minister’s zoning orders is haphazard, the auditor general has found.

The Progressive Conservatives’ $2.237-billion revamp of the waterfront park — five to six times their original estimate — was “irregular” and not done using “best practices for large-scale, modern land-use development projects,” the auditor said Tuesday.

In a scathing 941-page annual report to the legislature, auditor Shelley Spence also found Ford’s decision to close 10 supervised drug consumption sites near schools and daycares was made “without proper planning.”

Nor was there anything done to mitigate an “increased risk of overdoses” likely to end up in hospital emergency rooms that are already overcrowded.

Against the backdrop of the $8.28-billion Greenbelt land swap scandal now under criminal investigation by the RCMP, Spence was withering about the Ontario Place project and Ford’s penchant for MZOs, a tool used to override local planning decisions.

Shuttered by the previous Liberal government in 2012, the lakeside icon will eventually be home to a Therme waterpark and spa, a relocated Ontario Science Centre and an expanded Live Nation concert venue as well as a parking garage that could cost between $280 million and $400 million.

“We found that the social and environmental benefits of redevelopment were not factored into the assessment framework or considered in the redevelopment, including in the lease negotiations with anchor tenants,” the auditor said, emphasizing “rules and guidelines ... were not followed.”

“We found that the (call for development) process and realty decisions were not fair, transparent or accountable to all participants,” the auditor said.

Spence, who succeeded long-time auditor Bonnie Lysyk in January, found Ontario Place redevelopment costs to the province have ballooned by a staggering $1.8 billion to an estimated $2.237 billion. At one point, the government anticipated it would cost as little as $335 million.

Her audit said that “contrary to the protocol” for negotiations involving developers, three unidentified suitors met privately with staff from the premier’s and minister’s offices in June and July 2019.

As well, some would-be bidders “had direct access to an Infrastructure Ontario (IO) executive,” who exchanged nine emails and had one phone call with Therme’s legal counsel after news broke about company’s plans.

Unusually, “minutes of meetings with participants were not kept” so it is not known whether everyone involved “had equal access to the information that was shared” at those closed-door confabs.

In a statement Tuesday, Therme said “the bid process was clear to us, and any questions we may have had were answered within the process prior to the close of the submissions deadline.”

“Therme Group followed IO’s process and fully complied with its requirements at every stage in our submission and negotiation,” the Austrian company said.

Deputy Premier Sylvia Jones pushed back at the auditor.

“We have not bypassed due process,” insisted Jones, defending the government’s actions on many fronts.

“It speaks to our interest and our motivation to get things done,” she said, in a nod to the Tories’ 2022 campaign slogan, Get It Done.

But NDP Leader Marit Stiles said the report exposes a “government that’s off the rails.”

“They do whatever they want at an enormous cost to the people of Ontario,” said Stiles.

Liberal Leader Bonnie Crombie decried “Doug Ford’s shady backroom deals.”

“This report lays bare the results of that choice,” said Crombie.

Toronto Mayor Olivia Chow said the audit “seems like a big problem,” but has nothing to do with the city since Ontario Place falls within the “provincial mandate.”

Ontario Place for All, a community group opposed to the project, urged the government to “end the lease now” with Therme.

On MZOs, there appeared to be no rhyme or reason to the rezoning orders, which have fallen out of favour at Queen’s Park since the Mounties began probing the Greenbelt debacle 14 months ago.

“The ministry does not consistently provide the minister with timely and complete information relating to the projects proposed for an MZO,” wrote Spence, who said the orders to allow housing or industrial development on agricultural land increases its value by an average of 46 per cent.

“We also found there was no protocol and no apparent rationale for prioritizing some MZO requests over others,” the auditor said, pointing out the minister’s office “often selected which of the MZO requests to work on.”

The auditor examined all 114 zoning orders issued between 2019 and 2023 “and found none of them contained an assessment as to whether the MZO was necessary.”

She said MZO use has skyrocketed under Ford — between 1946 and 1998 there were an average of six such orders annually. From 1999 to 2018 that plunged to one MZO per year. But from 2019 through 2023 there were an average of 23 MZOs a year.

Municipal Affairs Minister Paul Calandra said the government is already rectifying the MZO process to weed out land speculators.

“Any MZO that we approve has to be followed up with a shovel in the ground. If it’s not, then I won’t hesitate to revoke it,” said Calandra.

Green Leader Mike Schreiner blasted the Tories’ “total lack of due diligence when reviewing MZOs that could pave over our farmland and wetlands without any consultation whatsoever.”

The annual audit was an indictment of the government’s opioid strategy, which passed into law Monday night.
Spence said closing 10 of 17 supervised consumption sites in favour of 19 HART Hubs (Homelessness and Addiction Recovery Treatment) would leave a deadly service gap — something advocates have been feared since the plan was announced in August.

Opening next spring, the hubs will provide 375 supportive housing units and addiction recovery and treatment beds but no supervised drug consumption, safe supply of narcotics or needle exchanges.
Ford has called consumption sites a “failed policy” that are being restricted over concerns about community safety — including the killing of mother-of-two Karolina Huebner-Makurat by a stray bullet outside a Leslieville site last summer.

Spence, however, predicted community outrage could linger if drug users are overdosing on streets and discarding needles.

She went on to slam the province for taking too long to investigate potential fraud under the Ontario Immigrant Nominee Program. In about 20 per cent of cases where misrepresentation was found, the applicant had already received permanent residency from the federal government.

Despite spending $100 million over the last decade to digitize services such as health card and driver’s licence renewals, more than half of service options still aren’t available online — and for those that are, customer satisfaction is low, she added.

Concerns were also raised about cybersecurity at ServiceOntario outlets — 70 per cent are privately operated and the rest are public — with the auditor saying some locations “lacked proper controls to safeguard Ontarians’ personal data from unauthorized access” by staff.

Finally, Spence’s audit looked at government advertising, which tripled in one year to $103.5 million in 2023-24 from $33.7 million in 2022-23.

That’s “the most the government has ever spent on advertising in a year” and includes commercials promoting Ontario that aired during the Super Bowl and in NHL games.

The spending boost comes as Ford is considering a spring election, one year ahead of the scheduled June 2026 vote.
Sorry, I don't accept homework from strangers on the internet.
You seem disturbed and actually think cutting/pasting huge articles makes you look smart.
Newsflash...it doesn't.

ps can't wait for another DoFo majority government...how about you?
 
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GameBoy27

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Do you think Millicent from Milton, Ridley from Richmond Hill and Prickly Pete from Peterborough lives a 100 minute walk from wherever they need to go?
Do you think most drivers are fat, lazy and have atrophied muscles from doing nothing but standing still in congestion and gridlock?
How about the 85,000 single occupant rideshare drivers driving around and around like zombies waiting to earn their $5/hr? Should they be delivering 150 pound sacks of shit in their car?
Do you think motorists on the Gardiner, QEW, DVP and 427 are all just stuck in the mess of congestion and gridlock of their own making? You know .... the millions of motor vehicles and their single occupants that you don't think exist?

These are all very important questions that need thoughful response, Jimmy Olsen.
A large percentage of people in this Province drive (read single occupant vehicles) because it's still faster than walking, cycling or taking public transit. All you have to do is open Google Maps, punch in random directions, other than one close to the Go Train or one of the few subway lines and you'll see it's still way faster to drive to most places, any time of day or night. Especially if you live in or traveling to a residential area that's poorly serviced by public transit, which many are.

The added bonus of driving, is you get to sit in the comfort of your car, listen to music, turn on the heat or A/C and enjoy the ride. You don't have to worry about walking in the rain or snow, having to stand waiting for transit, then not guaranteed a seat when it arrives. You can also easily make a detour to pickup something and have a place to put it if need be. Sure it's more expensive, but how much is your time and piece of mind worth?

So the question remains, why can't you get that through your thick head?
 

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A large percentage of people in this Province drive (read single occupant vehicles) because it's still faster than walking, cycling or taking public transit. All you have to do is open Google Maps, punch in random directions, other than one close to the Go Train or one of the few subway lines and you'll see it's still way faster to drive to most places, any time of day or night. Especially if you live in or traveling to a residential area that's poorly serviced by public transit, which many are.

The added bonus of driving, is you get to sit in the comfort of your car, listen to music, turn on the heat or A/C and enjoy the ride. You don't have to worry about walking in the rain or snow, having to stand waiting for transit, then not guaranteed a seat when it arrives. You can also easily make a detour to pickup something and have a place to put it if need be. Sure it's more expensive, but how much is your time and piece of mind worth?

So the question remains, why can't you get that through your thick head?
What does any of the above have to do with a few kms of local, neighborhood bike lanes in Toronto's inner core?

Zero, nothing, nada, nil zilch.

I commute by motor vehicle to work, but also cycle and take transit for errands, shopping, appointments in addition to cycling for pleasure, physical exertion and for discovery. Plus, I don't need or use bike lanes to bike or feel safe. All those nitty gritty, motor vehicle congested, gridlocked, scofflaw ridden and polluted city streets I bike.
 
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Do you think everyone wants to depend (i.e. be forced) on public transit to get in & out of the city?
Do you think you have the right to force people to not drive by themselves if they want to?
Do you think the public will benefit from having less transportation choices like rideshare or will it just make people want to drive their cars even more?
Do you expect people to just walk where they need to go so that your UberEATS biker can get you your tacos faster?
Do you want to control people's choices to drive their cars because you think riding your bike takes precedence over anyone else's transportation choices comrade?


Vehicles s aren't going away or declining in use just because downtowners think no one else exists. Say that over and over to yourself comrade or you'll continue e to be disappointed when your ideology crumbles around you like it is now.

ps tell us your not a downtown elitist without telling us you're a downtown elitist.
No one is forcing anyone to depend on public transit to get in and out of the city, except in your mind machinations.
No is forcing people to not drive by themselves if they want to, except once again in your mindless delusionary thought processes.
No is trying to force people from having less transportation choices, except Doug Fraud and people like you.
No is forcing people to just walk where they need to go, except in your halluciantions.
No is trying to control people choices of transportation, except your Dear Leader and lil rubes like yourself.

Once again what do a few kms of local, neighborhood bike lanes in Toronto's inner core have anything to do at all with GTA-wide, motor vehicle caused congestion, crawl and gridlock?
 
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No one is forcing anyone to depend on public transit to get in and out of the city, except in your mind machinations.
No is forcing people to not drive by themselves if they want to, except once again in your mindless delusionary thought processes.
No is trying to force people from having less transportation choices, except Doug Fraud and people like you.
No is forcing people to just walk where they need to go, except in your halluciantions.
No is trying to control people choices of transportation, except your Dear Leader and lil rubes like yourself.

Once again what do a few kms of local, neighborhood bike lanes in Toronto's inner core have anything to do at all with GTA-wide, motor vehicle caused congestion, crawl and gridlock?
All of your points contradict what you have actually been saying.

When you criticize people for driving by themselves, you are sewing the seeds of hatred towards them. When you restrict lanes to multi-passenger traffic instead of building more lanes, you are punishing people who prefer to drive alone and threatening them with fines.
When you sabotage vehicle traffic by putting in bike lanes and stupid traffic laws (ie King st.) you are essentially forcing people to not drive their cars even though they have to.
When you limit rideshare vehicles (Like Comrade Chow is doing) you limit people's ability to earn a living and provide what the public wants.

Everyone doesn't live in walking or biking distance from where they need to go. ie don't be a downtown elitist.

If you hadn't noticed, removing some of these bike lanes especially near the hospital area is just the start. Stopping more bike lanes from being built is also just the start.

If Ford decided to get rid of all of them at the same time you would have had a stroke.

Be patient.
 
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Do you think Millicent from Milton, Ridley from Richmond Hill and Prickly Pete from Peterborough lives a 100 minute walk from wherever they need to go?
Do you think most drivers are fat, lazy and have atrophied muscles from doing nothing but standing still in congestion and gridlock?
How about the 85,000 single occupant rideshare drivers driving around and around like zombies waiting to earn their $5/hr? Should they be delivering 150 pound sacks of shit in their car?
Do you think motorists on the Gardiner, QEW, DVP and 427 are all just stuck in the mess of congestion and gridlock of their own making? You know .... the millions of motor vehicles and their single occupants that you don't think exist?

These are all very important questions that need thoughful response, Jimmy Olsen.
What does any of the above have to do with a few kms of local, neighborhood bike lanes in Toronto's inner core?

Zero, nothing, nada, nil zilch.
 
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