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Ford suggests taking marathons, runs off city streets

red

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wonder what the voters would say if only the sidewalks were used for marathons and no pedestrians were allowed to utilize them during the many marathons we have in TO? Would the pedestrians be forced to use the bike lanes?
i say - force all the pedstrians to run in every marathon.
 

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Canadian registered charities paid $762 million to third-party fundraisers between 2004 and 2008, all of it deducted from donations and often dwarfing guidelines set out by the Canada Revenue Agency, a CBC investigation has learned.

In more than 200 cases, charities paid more than half the money they received from donors to external fundraisers, according to documents obtained from the CRA, which regulates Canadian charities.



Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/09/21/con-charities-fundraisers.html#ixzz10piAKrgs

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/09/21/con-charities-fundraisers.html
 

oldjones

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Fine in 2007 The Heart and Stroke Foundation of Ontario had a $130 million war chest of donor dollars…edit…It’s an eye opening experience when you see what money making operations they are.
A neat opportunity to let some more air out of Rocky as well. Good for you for actually looking stuff up and trying to be accurate. Unlike the guy I was replying to, who claimed only ten cents on the dollar of "…Canadian charities" went to 'good works', while the number you found for just this one charity is roughly fifty cents on the dollar.

In any case, the business model (which the right-wing guys keep telling us we should use for everything) says, "ya gotta spend money to make money". One wonders how much the H&S folks would raise with 100% volunteer labour, and that would still leave the advertising, rents and stuff to suck away dollars. But maybe ww thinks we should be taxed to pay for all that good stuff. And eventually the CRA has been known to say, "Nope, you're a moneymaker and we're taxing you as one."

It was a silly point, foolishly advanced by its OP, though nicely illustrative of simple-minded 'mad at the world for being complicated' Fordian thinking.
 

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A neat opportunity to let some more air out of Rocky as well. Good for you for actually looking stuff up and trying to be accurate. Unlike the guy I was replying to, who claimed only ten cents on the dollar of "…Canadian charities" went to 'good works', while the number you found for just this one charity is roughly fifty cents on the dollar.

In any case, the business model (which the right-wing guys keep telling us we should use for everything) says, "ya gotta spend money to make money". One wonders how much the H&S folks would raise with 100% volunteer labour, and that would still leave the advertising, rents and stuff to suck away dollars. But maybe ww thinks we should be taxed to pay for all that good stuff. And eventually the CRA has been known to say, "Nope, you're a moneymaker and we're taxing you as one."

It was a silly point, foolishly advanced by its OP, though nicely illustrative of simple-minded 'mad at the world for being complicated' Fordian thinking.
Other than pointing out the slightly "fuji-ed" 90% fact do you actually have a point with the rambling on about the right-wing and the CRA ?
 

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yeah...right...the organizers are known to skim up to 90% of the profits, leaving the charities themselves with next to nothing...fundraisers are major scams serving mostly the middleman
Some are. Some aren't. Do you have any specific information that this is true of any of the marathons? Generally the 90% figures come when you have third party collectors cold calling people and such, which is NOT the case with these marathon events, where the collectors are essentially unpaid volunteers who run in the marathon and presumably therefore most of the money goes to the cause.

And by the way, when I said those who make the difference are the ones who get the donations, i was referring to the unpaid runners.
 

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Canadian registered charities paid $762 million to third-party fundraisers between 2004 and 2008, all of it deducted from donations and often dwarfing guidelines set out by the Canada Revenue Agency, a CBC investigation has learned.

In more than 200 cases, charities paid more than half the money they received from donors to external fundraisers, according to documents obtained from the CRA, which regulates Canadian charities.



Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/09/21/con-charities-fundraisers.html#ixzz10piAKrgs

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/09/21/con-charities-fundraisers.html
like MADD.... If it wasnt bad enough that theyre crazy controll freaks.... try asking one of their fundraisrs to tell you what % of their donations goes to "administration"....
 

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ANYTHING the man does in his personal life is irrelevent so long as he does his fucking job!!!!
Except that what he does in his personal life gives us some indication of whether or not he'll be good at the job. Someone who makes such poor decisions perhaps shouldn't be in a decision making role.
 

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Seriously i like my garbage collection run, how many do you think will sign up for it? I'm guessing zero because they're above that lol
i think you will get some doing it- but will they sort the trash- thats another matter
 

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Except that what he does in his personal life gives us some indication of whether or not he'll be good at the job. Someone who makes such poor decisions perhaps shouldn't be in a decision making role.
then we are all f@@@ed then.. they all are crooks... trying to find the least cook(if that makes sence).. but it seems they are all Morons.!!!!!!!!!!!!! ford seems to at least have the best bullshit...
 

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All this talk of charities , fat fucks, etc etc is amazing as Rob Ford never said he wanted to GET RID of the Marathon, just get it off the streets, which is likely not practical, although it would be nice if we could, we just don't have enough continuous parks to do so, as I said before, a compromise of the idea is worth looking into.

At the very least maybe we can find a route that doesn't turn back on itself like the current one does, (Neither the Boston or New york Marathon do that )
 

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All this talk of charities , fat fucks, etc etc is amazing as Rob Ford never said he wanted to GET RID of the Marathon, just get it off the streets, which is likely not practical, although it would be nice if we could, we just don't have enough continuous parks to do so, as I said before, a compromise of the idea is worth looking into.

At the very least maybe we can find a route that doesn't turn back on itself like the current one does, (Neither the Boston or New york Marathon do that )
there has to be enuff.. high park is a big place ..some in the park and some in the street? 50/50?
 

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Other than pointing out the slightly "fuji-ed" 90% fact do you actually have a point with the rambling on about the right-wing and the CRA ?
Read the post I replied to, which introduced the taxguys. You are right about unfairily targetting the right; I should have said summat like, "everyone knows ya gotta spend money to make money.", and ww might well be a Trotskyite,. But Ford is a self-admitted rightist who has been heard to trumpet the virtues of business-models in all sorts of non-business places. But when charities make only 10% 'profit' whitewater gets upset. What do you s'pose DecoLabel's profit was? All self-contradictions to my mind; stuff you're at home with, so you likely don't mind them.

As to the made-up 90%, if you want to use 'slight' to describe such fictions we'll know how much to trust any such numbers from you, but surely your grade six teacher told you, "To be a fact it must be true; to say 'true fact' is an unlettered redundancy, and if it is not true it is not a fact".
 

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there has to be enuff.. high park is a big place ..some in the park and some in the street? 50/50?
I don't think there's 20km of roadway in high park, it's not THAT big. It needs to be a roadway to be wide enough to accommodate the large number of runners.
 

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YEP...

The worst he can do as a drunk driver is kill a few people.... That sucks but really... whatever...

ANYTHING the man does in his personal life is irrelevent so long as he does his fucking job!!!!


WTF is so hard there for you to understand???????
How you can think that if he were to kill a few people, "That sucks but really... whatever..." But i'm sadly confident you have company.

Or is that not what you meant? Like Rob not meaning a 5% increase in property taxes, when that's what he said.

Meantime, good to know there's at least one Ford guy who'd stand up for ANYTHING people do in their private lives. Don't disappoint us by saying you didn't really mean ANYTHING; we already know you think driving drunk is part of private life.
 

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So as to block off even more traffic?
No, to do the exact opposite, on a continous route, once the last runner has cleared an intersection and any crowds disperse, that intersection can then be reopened for traffic ( that is not along the current route.) thus keeping any inconvience to a minimum.

In a non continous route , you cannot wait for the last runner pass by one way, but the last runner has to pass both ways before you can begin to reopen roads. So that particular stretch has to be closed that much longer.

Further a Continous route would show more of the city than one that turns back on itself.
 

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Marathons are on a Saturday when traffic is light. There are far more people using the road by running on it, than by driving on it. I really can't fathom what the problem is, it seems like a minority of people feel they're entitled to drive anywhere they want with no delays whatsoever even if doing so requires inconveniencing half the city. Selfish, in my opinion.

Marathons are a great use of the roads on Saturday and the inconvenience really is pretty minor, and to a small number of people.
 

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I would hazard a guess that far more people participate in the marathon than are inconvenienced by it.

Why should a minority of lard asses be able to stop a majority from making use of the road?
I would disagree with your guess.
 
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