well good frank hopefully it becomes a nationwide success...but not all mental patients are created equal...would a social worker handle a patient with a knife? yeah...needs to be a tandem of cops and social workers...not just social workers...
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I'm guessing that the 911 calls are triaged and if the mental health sufferer is violent, cops are sent and not a social worker.
There are 3 legal criteria for committing a mental health sufferer:
1. Danger to selves - i.e. suicide risk;
2. Lack of basic self care leading to self harm - i.e. Alzheimer's and cannot go out and buy and prepare food and is starving.
3. Danger to others - i.e. thinks the neighbour is Satan and is attacking him with a baseball bat.
Numbers 1 and 2 seem to call for social work intervention. Number 3 clearly calls for police intervention.
IMO all needs police assistance...I used to volunteer in a mental institution and a single person will struggle to overpower 1 patient that shows resistance...most mental patients have high tolerance for pain...you simply can't hold them down alone. It's good to have social workers on sight but it's safer to have police presence...
But look, the tighter the gun laws are, the more difficult it is for anyone to get guns. Sure a drug dealer in South Central needs a couple of handguns and can't buy them because he has a felony sheet. How difficult is it going to be to get some 18 year old in his project to buy the guns for him?
Or some white suburban businessman who wants to buy coke and will trade a couple of legally-acquired handguns for that coke and save a few hundred $$$$$? And then call his insurance company and make a claim because the guns are "stolen", so they can't be traced back to him if they're seized by the cops in a bust?
The best counter-argument against gun control is to say "Hell, there are so many guns out there right now, a ban simply wouldn't matter." OTOH the authorities should at least make and effort and the supply of weapons would indeed go down over time as they are taken off the street.
Now explain to me why I'm a "hypocrite"?
Exactly, hopefully this just keeps some people with mental health issues from having their episodes escalated and ending in prison time instead of therapy and treatment.
The right wingers seem to be arguing that sure, gun control works in places like Japan, Australia and Canada but that the US is too far gone. That there are so many guns that the only answer is that everyone everywhere always has a gun. Its a stupid argument and even the old west had stricter rules about guns now that some red states. More guns just means more gun deaths.
You wanna fix the problem you need to start getting rid of guns somehow.
Here's a prime example of the GOP Gun Cult in action. Spoiled Turkish billionaire parasite Dr Oz has never possessed a hunting licence, but claims to be an avid hunter and poses with a gun.
Pretty much every GOP candidate now poses with a firearm.
Pretty much every GOP candidate now poses with a firearm.
There you go! Here's another GOP fucktard cavorting with a firearm.
Here you go. Here's another GOP fucktard with a gun.
Is he trying to show off how tanned his balls are or is he just a tiny bit gay?
(not that there's anything wrong with that)
Whatever, he'll be deaf soon enough shooting like that.
They were careful to not show their patches this time.
This guy is a piece of work, though.
The "I have a militia and we will kill our enemies" fashy vibe is pretty intense.
How dare you publish actual numbers! AR is a big scary "gun" and black, too.Here are the number of homicides by guns in the US (by year)
Number of homicides by firearm in the U.S. 2023| Statista
In 2023, 13,529 recorded murders in the United States were committed by firearm.www.statista.com
From 2006-2019 there were an average of 9526 gun homicides per year. About 30% of those, 2858, are committed with legal firearms. Only 3%, or 286, of all gun homicides are committed using a rifle (or what the anti-gun lobby likes to deem assault weapon). So even if they confiscated all AR-15 style rifles tomorrow it would have a negligible effect on gun homicides in the United States.
Nice try, bud.
You try and make this all about AR-15's but I call bullshit. Handguns should be controlled as well, just like Canada is doing. This is your little deflection for this thread. You say "lefties are obsessed with AR-15's" and then show that the # of homicides caused - arguably, since the stats are vague - by AR-15's is small. But no one is "obsessed with AR-15's". Sensible people want pistols controlled as well.
