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papasmerf

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You want to make it a range war
you got it


May the Lord have mercy on your soul
 

papasmerf

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Sorry you sick fuck

My mom died this past week and you attacked her

Did you think in you shallow morals you would beable to do this???
 

Big Bear

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Papasmurf take a valium and re-read what was originally posted here. NF was inferring that your first language was English (hence the phrase mother tongue) while his is French. It was not an insult to your mother and should not be interpreted as such by you.

You are typing so fast that you are making mistakes some of which are hard to understand. Just read your last post for example or the one where you say your mothers native language was Galic. I think you are referring to her being from Ireland but it could also be Scotish or even, horror of horrors Franch.

Calm down and take your time and make sure you understand what is being said instead of just popping off
 

papasmerf

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as you know there are rules
and NF violated them

I will not accept these as mistake and ignorence.

Frenchy violated a Cardnal rule and brought my mother into this.

the fact she died this past Friday and was Burried on monday is a fact. I demand an appology.
 

zog

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Sorry for your loss

papasmerf said:
As my mom died this past friday and was Burried Monday.
Sorry for your loss, papasmurf. Any death is tragic and loss of a close family member is the hardest to take. You have my sympathy.

The term "mother tongue" is a common expression that means your native, or first, language. In your case, I think that Frenchy is assuming that to be English. He was just chiding you for the English spelling and grammar errors in your post.

I agree that there are better ways to try to win an argument but I don't believe that he intended to make any reference to your Mother and, obviously, none of us had any way of knowing that she had recently passed.

Your strong feelings are understandable but, in this case, I think you are directing your anger at an innocent bystander.

Zog.
 

Big Bear

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Papasmerf, I don't think he violated the rules and from what I read he did not bring your mother into this, you did. As I said before re-read what has been posted and you will see there was no insult of your mother, only your typing and/or skill with the English language.

I suggest the moderator get in touch with you about this because in my opinion you are way off base here
 

Snook.fr

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Big Bear said:
Papasmurf take a valium and re-read what was originally posted here. NF was inferring that your first language was English (hence the phrase mother tongue) while his is French. It was not an insult to your mother and should not be interpreted as such by you.
Thank-you for pointing it out as it exactly was meant to be.
Cheers
.fr
 

Goober Mcfly

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papasmerf: My condolences on your mother's passing. It must be a trying time for you right now.

Notwithstanding that, Nic's comment was a common saying in the English language. "Mother tongue" means the language you were brought up on. It is by no means a slam at your mother.

This is all just a huge misunderstanding. Let it go.
 

Snook.fr

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Re: Sorry for your loss

zog said:
I agree that there are better ways to try to win an argument but I don't believe that he intended to make any reference to your Mother and, obviously, none of us had any way of knowing that she had recently passed.

Your strong feelings are understandable but, in this case, I think you are directing your anger at an innocent bystander.

Zog.
Thanks Zog. I'll Apologize anyway.
I prefer it that way even if No Attack was actually there.

.fr
 

papasmerf

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Once again thank you Frenchy

And yes galic was the tongue of my mother.

Please consider this we all are at different sages of our lives and deserve respect.

To debate is one thing but to drgrade is something guite different.
 

scubadoo

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Re: Lets put things into perspective

Cinema Face said:
Canadians have lost 20 or so solders in various peace keeping missions in the last 10 years due to friendly fire. Those people died, it barely made the news. Nobody made a big deal out of that.

People make mistakes. In combat, mistakes are usually deadly. Friendly fire happens in every conflict. It's a tragic reality of war.

Canada has only had 4 peacekeeping Deaths in the last 10 years my good friend! The 4 in Afganastan don't count because that was war. None of these 4 peacekeeping deaths were due to friendly fire but landmines. You might want to go back and look over you info! I got my from my brother in law who was with Lords Strathcona's Horse in Kandahar for 9 months last year and he's been in the Army for more than 20 years.
 
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Damn ... "because of Bush & Company an awful lot of Iraqi Moms are about to die" ... that sucks.

Think about all those Arabian-belly-twisting MILFS with long sexy silk dresses straight from the former Persian empire ... mmmmm ...

War just sucks !!!
 

zog

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You can't win...

BIGGIS DICKIS said:
..because of Bush & Company an awful lot of Iraqui Moms are about to die !
Some say that the alternative is to leave Saddam free to torture and kill them one at a time.

I don't believe in war and especially not in this case. However, lets remember that Saddam is not an innocent bystander.

Many Americans have forgotten that war is hell. The sanitized CNN version of combat where the US takes on a massively undermatched opponent and seems to dance through the experience have allowed many to forget that there is pain and suffering in any conflict. It is, unfortunately, not possible to conduct a military campagn without endangering at least some civilians.

This is the reason that I oppose war at this time. I believe that there are still other less violent options to explore. The reason I favour trying these options first, is exactly because war is messy, dirty, and violent and people get hurt and many innocents die.

However, it must also be remembered that Saddam Hussein must be stopped. He is a mass murder, torturer, and an international supporter of terrorists. I favour non-military attempts to stop him but I do not deny that he must be stopped.

Zog.
 

bigdik

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Was his mommy mean to him? Did he have to wear hand-me-down clothes? Fuck off! Saddam is a psychopath. He is not a product of his environment. His environment gave him opportunity. If he had grown up in Canada he'd be on trial with the psycho catskinner, or as a serial rapist or killer. He is a dangerous sociopath who must be eliminated! The shame of this whole situation is the innocent Iraqi's and programmed U.S. troops who are about to die. The ends do not justify the means but Saddam must be KILLED. Not removed, not exiled, KILLED. Can he be rehabilitated? NO! Can Bernardo? Karla? The lovely Cliffy Olson? NO! He's wired wrong! Kill him! In Public! Let his own people finish him! Oh, sorry, he's just misunderstood, exile him to Canada, we'll give him 3 months house arrest. That'll teach him. By the way, lay off the French, at least Chirac has the cojones to make a stand, right or wrong. A politician with convictions ( non-criminal). What a foreign concept.
 
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bigdik

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Nah, Udai is a nice fella, just ask the parents of all the girls he has " invited" to his place in the country.
 
Yes, I totally agree with the above comments made by Biggis Dickis. That Udai guy is fucking insane. As for Saddam, yeah ... he's just in it for power. But then again isnt power the determing factor in many of our [mankind's motives] a la Friedrich Nietzsche "The Will to Power"?

Think about how much power Bush Jr. has and will have after he takes over Iraq. Man, all that oil ... him and his boys down in Texas will be counting trillions not millions.

I feel sorry for US troops being manipulated by their so-called patriotism. As a matter of fact, I see patriotism as a form of oppression. [I know I am going to get blasted by some posters for writing that ... hehehehe]

Do you know why the US lost the Vietnam war? Its because the Vietnamese fought with heart and soul. Whereas the US troops were like "uh ... what the hell am I doing half the world away ... I got a wife and kids and shit" ... Whereas the Viets were defending their livelihood ...

Again, I am going to get bashed for this, but ... theoretically speaking there is nothing wrong with Marxism. Its a great idea. But it will not work so smoothly in reality. Nonetheless, Marxism is a great ideology for reovlutionary causes such as the case with Vietnam ...

PS - Karl Marx once said he was "not a Marxist" because he disliked how people interpreted his works meaning those who used Marxism. [Marx would have never approved Castro, Stalin, Mao ... but of course Marx is long dead] These people aren't "Marxist" - strictly speaking ...

Anyway ... I'll just shut the fuck up ...

sd
 
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submissivedave said:


Before, I thought Chretien was a pussy whipped whimp who only knows how to bully his own people [e.g. cabinet reshuffling]. But now, after his stance on the US led attack on Iraq, I must say that I rank Mr. Chretien to be on the same footing as Pearson and Trudeau.

I don't think you have been in this country long enough to know this Chretien guy:

(1) Do you know he broke his promise on scrapping the GST once he is elected ?

(2) Do you know how he treated the MP who had the courage to speak up on this issue ?

(3) Do you know who John Nunziata is and how he was kickd out of the Liberal ?

Besides, i don't think he meant to stand up against the Yanks, he just did not want to see any Canadian soldiers to be killed by friendly fire again.....lol

Originally posted by submissivedave

As for the discrimination thing ... I totally agree. As a visible minority I have experienced some form of racism before. But hardly any in Canada. sd
Did you read Mr. X's posts on immigration ? Any comment s on his theory ?
 
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Ice Dog,

Thank you for your comments. Would you happen to be a Liberal party member? LOL :)

(1) Well, even though I got to pay extra, I am not complaining about the GST. I mean we all got to pay taxes. Canada is a welfare state since ummm ..... Diefenbaker and Pearson (both contributed to Canada's identity). As a welfare state, giving us Canadian citizens all those "extras" such as health care, unemployment insurance, etc. etc. ... you've got to have high taxes. If it was not for these social programs, Canada would not have ranked among the best countries to live in according to the United Nations human development index. I mean, where does the money come from? Its our tax money. Even though we may be paying that extra percentage, we are in fact, getting it back when we see the doctor, get laid off or whatever.

Plus, one of the beauties of Canada's statecraft policy is universal health care. And health care can be related to the notion of citizenship simply because the state [Canada] is providing for its citizens just like free education till high school. Not too mention the fact that the government also pays for a huge percentage of university tuition fees ...

Yes, heavy taxing is an infringement on our discretionary income, and our GNP per capita may be well below the USA, but hey, I don't see the USA being ranked as one of the best places to live in. And Americans got to pay for health care which is a "cost" for sustaining themselves, whereas we Canadians don't have to treat health care as a "cost".


(2) No ... but I heard about the Sheila Copps thing. Are you talking about her? If its her, she got guts man !!! A true Voltaire -ian of our time. Its sad to see that people are being discriminated and picked on when they speak out against people in power. I guess the legacy of Socrates, Galileo, and those who spoke out will live on and be admired by those who enjoy a forum of open discussion.

(3) Sorry I don't know who John Nunziata is ...

I am sorry and I apologize but I could not find the thread. I did a name search with "Mr. X" but the search engine told me the query is too short.

Thanks,

Regards,

David
 

ice_dog

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Mr. Submissve,

You are missing the issues

(1)The point is not really GST is justified or not. You like it or don't mind paying it because you have deep pockets, like many asians. The point here is Chretien broke his promise. Or maybe he was using the the possibility of scrapping GST as a ploy to get votes. This is my point and you did not get it.


(2) I was not talking about Shela Copps. The fact that you don;t know who John Nunziata is shows that you have been in this country for less than 10 years. John Nunziata was the only liberal who spoke out on this GST issue after Chretian broke his promise. John Nunziata is running for mayor now if you have been paying attention to the local politics.

My point is that you have not been in Canada long enough to really know this guy Chretien
 
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