Fred , What's a "listed" escort ?
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I think they mean someone who doesn't otherwise have an ad going on the internet or another place to reference it.
Basically if you can't post a link to their info then it's not going to be allowed. They don't want to have people randomly shoing up and posting reviews of girls that don't advertise.
Dave
Basically if you can't post a link to their info then it's not going to be allowed. They don't want to have people randomly shoing up and posting reviews of girls that don't advertise.
Dave
Fred may clarify, but I believe Dave has it right.
A listed escort is one who has a public advertisement either via a website or newspaper (NOW, Eye, Sun, Wall Street Journal) which is readily verifiable.
"When in doubt, we'll take it out!"
A listed escort is one who has a public advertisement either via a website or newspaper (NOW, Eye, Sun, Wall Street Journal) which is readily verifiable.
"When in doubt, we'll take it out!"
I mentioned the WSJ because it's completely and totally the opposite of the Sun/Eye/Now type of newspaper.tbill said:
Just so you wouldn't accuse us of favouring one newspaper over another.... and as a joking extreme.
Quite correct and in addition the ad has to be CURRENT.Goober Mcfly said:
Tbill - there is no hypocrisy here, just legal necessity and it's not hard for anyone to get a listing. I have taken the trouble to educate
myself on the legal implications of what you are trying to do and I suggest you do the same.
Sheik said:
This board is geared to sp's who advertise, preferably with terb. This board is not for you johns and its not for amateur sp's.
It's for the big league hookers with a goal of ever increasing fees.
It has nothing to do with legal issues.
This Board will never support lower fees for better service.
Sorry, but that's the way it is !
I am no lawyer but my mama raised me to smell an idiot a mile away and Sorely, I still say arguing with you is like arguing with my two-year old.sorely said:
I think the object here is to minimize the opportunity for soliciting charges to be filed against the board through an association with Mr. Tbill and his nefarious schemes for cheap pootang. I don't believe Mr. Zed wishes to be known as Pimp-Daddy Fred. Correct me if I am wrong but Terb is the channel of the information - not the vehicle. Can't blame a man for protecting his work Sorely, and I thought you were quite rude for being an invitee an' all.
Chall;
You must have one bright two year old. Are you sure who the father is ? I don't think I'm arguing with you as you you haven't said anything .
It does appear that tbill is treading on thin ice; but that's not what Fred said. He referred to "unlisted" escorts which is a term of no legal consequence.
You must have one bright two year old. Are you sure who the father is ? I don't think I'm arguing with you as you you haven't said anything .
It does appear that tbill is treading on thin ice; but that's not what Fred said. He referred to "unlisted" escorts which is a term of no legal consequence.
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Escorts-Canada
Escorts-Canada offers (I think they still do) a free month to any lady who hasn't been on the site before. You don't even need a pic to start. One can be submitted later.
That should take care of any lady who wants to be "listed."
You also get a listing on sp-list.com (the old Lyla's list).
Escorts-Canada offers (I think they still do) a free month to any lady who hasn't been on the site before. You don't even need a pic to start. One can be submitted later.
That should take care of any lady who wants to be "listed."
You also get a listing on sp-list.com (the old Lyla's list).
Just when ya thought it was calm enought to take the canoe out for a spin.
Hmmmm... got me confused . (well not an uncommon situtation) <g>
If I've got this right - an SP HAS to be ON some website or advertising venue somewhere. Someones WORD of mouth is not good enough. Seems fair.
What is the ruling on Agencies that SAY they have a "new SP- photos soon to be put up" but nothing is EVER posted on their website - not even the name of the SP. "Call and we'll give you info about her."
Not a lot of difference here and what TBILL was doing . I've SEEN this 3-4 times in the past month by several MAJOR agencies (a couple have ads on TERB)(actually my favorite SP had this done to her).
I fully understand "why" this has come about and "what" it is that TERB is trying to deal with but it does seem that there is the possibility of a preception of there being a double standard here. Perhaps some more thought needs to go into this or do some groups/agencies qualify for an exception? Can we have a list of these exceptions that do not need to meet the "must be posted" criteria. Or will there be an updated listing of "who" can be reviewed? The more I think about this the more it seems we're "cutting off our nose to spite our face".
There must be a better way than this divisive confrontation that seems to be building within TERB. Come on guys'gals lets put our heads together.
<don't count on my head - still mush from pulling feet from mouth>
cheers eh!
Hmmmm... got me confused . (well not an uncommon situtation) <g>
If I've got this right - an SP HAS to be ON some website or advertising venue somewhere. Someones WORD of mouth is not good enough. Seems fair.
What is the ruling on Agencies that SAY they have a "new SP- photos soon to be put up" but nothing is EVER posted on their website - not even the name of the SP. "Call and we'll give you info about her."
Not a lot of difference here and what TBILL was doing . I've SEEN this 3-4 times in the past month by several MAJOR agencies (a couple have ads on TERB)(actually my favorite SP had this done to her).
I fully understand "why" this has come about and "what" it is that TERB is trying to deal with but it does seem that there is the possibility of a preception of there being a double standard here. Perhaps some more thought needs to go into this or do some groups/agencies qualify for an exception? Can we have a list of these exceptions that do not need to meet the "must be posted" criteria. Or will there be an updated listing of "who" can be reviewed? The more I think about this the more it seems we're "cutting off our nose to spite our face".
There must be a better way than this divisive confrontation that seems to be building within TERB. Come on guys'gals lets put our heads together.
<don't count on my head - still mush from pulling feet from mouth>
cheers eh!
It may not have legal consequences for you, but it has legal consequences for ME. It is quite clear what the term means in the context in which I used it. Anyway, it is my job to make the risksorely said:
assessment in matters that affect THIS site [ not tbill, or sorely or anyone else ] and take the appropriate measures to minimize them.
Domains are only $50 per year, for the price of a BJ you can easily buy one and post whatever information you want. But don't expect us to assume the risk for you actions.tbill said:
Re: Just when ya thought it was calm enought to take the canoe out for a spin.
There is no double standard here. The posts you refer to are from existing companies with active websites who already have an advertising agreement with the site.RollingStone said:
It's not that complicated...
If TERB is used to review and discuss the services of existing SCs, MPs, and SPs it is merely another form of free expression and protected by our laws and charters.
As soon as this forum provides an opportunity for some who may be perceived to offer legally questionable services to promote and advertse themselves at no cost, it becomes something more than a free speech exercise.
tbill has been very open about the fact that he is discovering and introducing new talent into the scene. He is also very open about the fact that he demands (and receives) discounts or free-service from some of the SPs in return for his "assistance" to them in getting into the buisiness. I don't know about the rest of you but I think there's a really fine line between getting a discount and getting a kick-back. And from there...tbill is frighteningly close to admitting (unwitingly, I hope) that he is profitting from the availls of this activity! Not to mention that he openly stated in another thread that he "hopes to draw a salary" from his activities.
tbill is a very blatant example of this problem but any "unlisted" SP who uses TERB to promote herself is walking in the viscinity of that same fine line. That is, they are making TERB the basis of their business.
When escort agencies have been busted in the past, because it was proved that they knew their staff was selling sex for money (and the agency was profitting from it) the staff of the agency that did not work as SPs (phones, accountants, drivers, etc) were also arrested because they were knowing accomplices and profiting as well.
If tbill and others have free use of this web-space to promote their questionable activities, this forum could be deemed to be an accessory to these activities and be shut-down as a result. Not to mention that those involved might be subjected to unwanted attention and trouble.
Let's keep it clean and keep it safe on-line as well as in the bedroom.
Zog.
If TERB is used to review and discuss the services of existing SCs, MPs, and SPs it is merely another form of free expression and protected by our laws and charters.
As soon as this forum provides an opportunity for some who may be perceived to offer legally questionable services to promote and advertse themselves at no cost, it becomes something more than a free speech exercise.
tbill has been very open about the fact that he is discovering and introducing new talent into the scene. He is also very open about the fact that he demands (and receives) discounts or free-service from some of the SPs in return for his "assistance" to them in getting into the buisiness. I don't know about the rest of you but I think there's a really fine line between getting a discount and getting a kick-back. And from there...tbill is frighteningly close to admitting (unwitingly, I hope) that he is profitting from the availls of this activity! Not to mention that he openly stated in another thread that he "hopes to draw a salary" from his activities.
tbill is a very blatant example of this problem but any "unlisted" SP who uses TERB to promote herself is walking in the viscinity of that same fine line. That is, they are making TERB the basis of their business.
When escort agencies have been busted in the past, because it was proved that they knew their staff was selling sex for money (and the agency was profitting from it) the staff of the agency that did not work as SPs (phones, accountants, drivers, etc) were also arrested because they were knowing accomplices and profiting as well.
If tbill and others have free use of this web-space to promote their questionable activities, this forum could be deemed to be an accessory to these activities and be shut-down as a result. Not to mention that those involved might be subjected to unwanted attention and trouble.
Let's keep it clean and keep it safe on-line as well as in the bedroom.
Zog.
Regardless you must be getting something for your efforts, or someone could claim that you are and then it would just be your word against theirs.tbill said:
Are you serious????
She gives you a freebie and, in return, you give her a good review (but only if she's good).
How are you not profiting from this? Do you even look at what you write???
Zog.
I see.tbill said:
She gives you a freebie and, in return, you give her a good review (but only if she's good).
How are you not profiting from this? Do you even look at what you write???
Zog.
Legality
I've read through all this thread and it seems to me the situation is rather simple. Fred, the owner of this board has received legal advice designed to keep him out of trouble that says SPs have to be listed.
Now the rest of us wannabe and perhaps real lawyers are disputing this decision for what some preceive as evil macinations on Fred's part to extract more money from SPs. That may be a side benefit, I'm not disputing that but if I were in Fred's shoes and my lawyer told me not to do something unless I wanted to go to jail you can be damm sure I wouldn't do it despite what the rest of you might think.
I also agree, again with the cavat that I am not a lawyer, that I think t-bill in some instances is way over the legal line and is just asking for a whole lot of legal trouble if he continues. The suggestion that he get legal advice is a sound one particularly as it relates to both his john co-op and his recruitment of new talent.
My 2 cents and that is all my advice is worth in this area
I've read through all this thread and it seems to me the situation is rather simple. Fred, the owner of this board has received legal advice designed to keep him out of trouble that says SPs have to be listed.
Now the rest of us wannabe and perhaps real lawyers are disputing this decision for what some preceive as evil macinations on Fred's part to extract more money from SPs. That may be a side benefit, I'm not disputing that but if I were in Fred's shoes and my lawyer told me not to do something unless I wanted to go to jail you can be damm sure I wouldn't do it despite what the rest of you might think.
I also agree, again with the cavat that I am not a lawyer, that I think t-bill in some instances is way over the legal line and is just asking for a whole lot of legal trouble if he continues. The suggestion that he get legal advice is a sound one particularly as it relates to both his john co-op and his recruitment of new talent.
My 2 cents and that is all my advice is worth in this area
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