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By Maggie Shiels
Technology reporter, BBC News, Silicon Valley



Google is developing an operating system (OS) for personal computers, in a direct challenge to market leader Microsoft and its Windows system.

Google Chrome OS will be aimed initially at small, low-cost netbooks, but will eventually be used on PCs as well.

Google said netbooks with Chrome OS could be on sale by the middle of 2010.

"Speed, simplicity and security are the key aspects of Google Chrome OS," the firm said in its official blog.

The operating system, which will run on an open source license, was a "natural extension" of its Chrome browser, the firm said.

For Microsoft the news comes just months before it launches the latest version of its operating system, called Windows 7.

'Back to basics'

"We're designing the OS to be fast and lightweight, to start up and get you onto the web in a few seconds," said the blog post written by Sundar Pichai, vice president of product management, and Google's engineering director Linus Upson.

Both men said that "the operating systems that browsers run on were designed in an era where there was no web" and that this OS is "our attempt to re-think what operating systems should be".

To that end, the search giant said the new OS would go back to basics.

"We are completely redesigning the underlying security architecture of the OS so that users don't have to deal with viruses, malware and security updates.

"It should just work," said Google.

Google already has an operating system for mobile phones called Android which can also be used to run on netbooks. Google Chrome OS will be aimed not just at laptops but also at desktops for those who spend a lot of time on the web.

"Truly competitive"

The announcement could dramatically change the market for operating systems, especially for Microsoft, the biggest player with around 90% share.

"This announcement is huge," said Rob Enderle, industry watcher and president of the Enderle Group.

"This is the first time we have had a truly competitive OS on the market in years. This is potentially disruptive and is the first real attempt by anyone to go after Microsoft.

"Google is coming at this fresh and, because it is based on a set of services that reside on the web, it is the first really post web operating system, designed from the ground up, and reconceived for a web world," Mr Enderle told the BBC.

Last year Google launched the Chrome browser, which it said was designed for "people who live on the web - searching for information, checking email, catching up on the news, shopping or just staying in touch with friends."

Stephen Shankland at CNET said the move had widespread implications.

"One is that it shows just how serious Google is about making the web into a foundation not just for static pages but for active applications, notably its own such as Google Docs and G-mail.

"Another: it opens new competition with Microsoft and, potentially, a new reason for anti-trust regulators to pay close attention to Google's moves."

Some commentators said Google's motivation in all this was pretty clear.

"One of Google's major goals is to take Microsoft out, to systematically destroy their hold on the market," said Mr Enderle.

"Google wants to eliminate Microsoft and it's a unique battle. The strategy is good. The big question is, will it work?"

At the popular blog, TechCrunch, MG Siegler said "Let's be clear on what this really is. This is Google dropping the mother of all bombs on its rival, Microsoft."

Microsoft releases Windows 7 later this year to replace Windows Vista and Windows XP which is eight years old.

The Redmond based company claims that 96% of netbooks run Windows to date.

Out of beta

In a separate announcement Google also revealed that many of its most popular applications had finally moved out of trial, or beta, phase.

Gmail, for example, has worn the beta tag for five years.

"We realise this situation puzzles some people, particularly those who subscribe to the traditional definition of beta software as being not yet ready for prime time," wrote Matthew Glotzbach, the director of product management in the official Google blog.

The decision to ditch the beta tag was taken because the apps had finally reached the "high bar" mark, he wrote.

More than 1.75 million companies use Google apps, according to the firm.
 

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Personally, I thought that Microshit ran out of ideas in the late 80's after ripping off the Mac interface.

How is Google going to take on the Office Apps? Unless Chrome runs Office, business is simply not going to go down that path.
 

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Personally, I thought that Microshit ran out of ideas in the late 80's after ripping off the Mac interface.

How is Google going to take on the Office Apps? Unless Chrome runs Office, business is simply not going to go down that path.
They have Google Apps which supports Office. Not all the functionality but enough that many small businesses use it.

All it needs a little polish.
 

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Personally, I thought that Microshit ran out of ideas in the late 80's after ripping off the Mac interface.

How is Google going to take on the Office Apps? Unless Chrome runs Office, business is simply not going to go down that path.
Yes and Mac stole the idea from Xerox.

I don't really see it taking off. People don't care about viruses, not really. They just want to run all their programs without any fuss. With Windows on netbooks they pretty much get that.

This isn't a seperate OS, Google is just one of a long list of vendors that are developing a simple Linux-based custom UI for use on a small, constrained-resources device.
 

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SilentLeviathan said:
Yes and Mac stole the idea from Xerox.

I don't really see it taking off. People don't care about viruses, not really. They just want to run all their programs without any fuss. With Windows on netbooks they pretty much get that.

This isn't a seperate OS, Google is just one of a long list of vendors that are developing a simple Linux-based custom UI for use on a small, constrained-resources device.
The netbooks have really taken off. Personally, I do not see
why anyone needs windows on a netbook. As you say, it is a
constrained resources device, perfect for the (90%) who only
use web browser and office.

I treat mine as a "black box" and I think it is counterproductive to add a lot
of programs on to it. If you need a windows system and a bigger screen ,
a laptop is what you want.

PS: I mainly use mine for travelling.
 

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Although I don't have one yet netbooks just continue to get better.
Best Buy has a 10" screen HP netbook for $280. It has the atom CPU, 1GB RAM, 16GB SSD, with XP as OS that's perfect for surfing and light work. The battery seems the only downside. While it is removable BB says a replacement will cost ~$150-200 when it dies in a couple years. That is if it can even be found in a couple years.
 

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WoodPeckr said:
Although I don't have one yet netbooks just continue to get better.
Best Buy has a 10" screen HP netbook for $280. It has the atom CPU, 1GB RAM, 16GB SSD, with XP as OS that's perfect for surfing and light work. The battery seems the only downside. While it is removable BB says a replacement will cost ~$150-200 when it dies in a couple years. That is if it can even be found in a couple years.
The linpus light version of Linux on mine does a startup in 9 seconds. That
is one feature I really like. I can make breakfast while my Vista desktop
starts up.
 

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Quicker boot time is another big Linux plus. My laptop boots up in under a minute with Ubuntu and the next version coming out in a few months is said to shorten boot time even further.
 

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SilentLeviathan said:
Yes and Mac stole the idea from Xerox.

I don't really see it taking off. People don't care about viruses, not really. They just want to run all their programs without any fuss. With Windows on netbooks they pretty much get that.

This isn't a seperate OS, Google is just one of a long list of vendors that are developing a simple Linux-based custom UI for use on a small, constrained-resources device.
Agreed. Get real, Google's OS isn't going to take off for the same reason Apple OS hasn't taken off and they've been at it for almost three decades. The Windows ecosystem is too strong. More developers = more users and more users = more developers. It's a vicious cycle.
 

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Windows will always remain the top OS.
Apple will never be a serious threat because it costs too much and linux has so many versions you don't know which one to pick. I did play around with a netbook that had a linpus light version of Linux and was surprised how easy it was to learn. Only took a couple minutes. Guess I'm to used to Windows and don't want to change and never had any of those problems with Windows, Apple people all claim to have.
 

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Monty Python said:
The only way to sell new Windows is to upgrade the old Windows and that's exactly what they are pushing for these days. On the other hand, it became so big and complicated that it is impossible to do anything revolutionary with it and keep the compatibility with the existing stuff.
Point is M$, Apple and Linux ALL DO THIS and always will. Upgrading and change are a constant, always will be for all OSs.
It's how they play their game of picking your pockets every couple years. M$ going to Win7 and Apple going to Snow Leopard. FWIW Apple is more guilty than M$ with its move to Snow Leopard which is a full 64bit OS forcing more upgrading if you want to fully utilize their new 64bit features! Snow Leopard has major compatibility issues with the existing Mac stuff. And don't forget you have to pay for all this.

No thank you. I'll stick with Linux, using my 64bit Linux OS and apps that didn't cost a penny and is more stable and secure than the other two....:cool:
 

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IMO Google won't be able to knock Windows with their OS, not in the near future, globally speaking.

Look at MS ... last year most of the netbooks I saw had linux and in 2009 almost all are already preloaded/polluted with their win xp ...MS has deep fucking pockets and plays rough. It's going to be tough for Chrome to make a dent even in short term.

Having said that, Chrome may be able to have a better head start for the market in China . Lining up with PC manufacturers there may be easier, as Google has been kissing the commie's asses for a while.

Still, it's good though to have another player in the field . More options for consumers. At the moment, I don't see any need for me to even try Chrome.
 

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Berlin said:
Look at MS ... last year most of the netbooks I saw had linux and in 2009 almost all are already preloaded/polluted with their win xp ...
Exactly!
M$ was all set to totally pull the plug on XP forcing people to take Vista till they saw all them Linux netbooks hitting the markets!....:D
After that, M$ decides to reverse course and keep XP around for a few more years to keep people from getting a taste of Linux, fearing they may lose some market share once folks see how easy and trouble free Linux is....
 

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WoodPeckr said:
Exactly!
M$ was all set to totally pull the plug on XP forcing people to take Vista till they saw all them Linux netbooks hitting the markets!....:D
After that, M$ decides to reverse course and keep XP around for a few more years to keep people from getting a taste of Linux, fearing they may lose some market share once folks see how easy and trouble free Linux is....
I recently bought another netbook for my son, and was surprised that the XP version
with a hard disk was almost the same price as the Linux light with solid state disk.

I still bought him the Linux light version, because I think it is more convenient for a
netbook.
 

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Hardware makers support Google OS

Google said the Chrome OS will be free to download and use
Google has announced which hardware firms have pledged to build machines that will run its Chrome OS.

The search giant said it was working with many firms on Chrome OS hardware including Acer, Asus, Freescale, Hewlett-Packard, Lenovo, and Toshiba.

The software is designed to work with the web and Google said it was most likely to appear on smaller portable computers known as netbooks.

The browser-based operating system will be released to the public in 2010.

Web futures

In a blog post announcing the hardware partners, Google said that the code for the Chrome OS would be open sourced in late 2009. Google said that the software will be free to download and use.

The first netbooks that can run the software will be ready in late 2010. Since Asus launched the first netbook the cut-down computers have proved hugely popular.

Analyst firm Gartner predicts that 80% more netbooks will be sold in 2009 than sold in 2008. However, so far, the small computers only make up 8% of the total PC market.

The Chrome OS will be designed to work with Intel chips that appear in the vast majority of desktop PCs, laptops and netbooks as well as the Arm chips that power most of the world's mobile phones. Texas Instruments and Qualcomm, who both build devices based around Arm chips, were also unveiled as partners on the Chrome OS project.

In a blog post announcing some of the hardware partners, Google also said it was working with Adobe on the operating system. This could turn out to be significant because of the wide use of Adobe's Flash software.

Flash is used to power many multimedia websites but Adobe has been working hard to extend its capabilities via the Air technology and make it more web-centric too. Microsoft is developing its Silverlight technology to do a similar job.
 

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netbooks were the best suitor for linux and even then XP eventually stole 98% of the netbook market share. The only way Linux has a chance at becoming a threat to MS is if netbooks become more performance limited to the point where XP just will not run at all, that probably means an ARM power netbook.
 

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bishop said:
netbooks were the best suitor for linux and even then XP eventually stole 98% of the netbook market share. The only way Linux has a chance at becoming a threat to MS is if netbooks become more performance limited to the point where XP just will not run at all, that probably means an ARM power netbook.

I have to agree with you, although I see no reason whatsoever for putting
XP on a netbook. That is the power of MS.

It will be interesting to see if the Google brand will change that.
 

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danmand said:
I have to agree with you, although I see no reason whatsoever for putting
XP on a netbook. That is the power of MS.

It will be interesting to see if the Google brand will change that.
My thinking is opposite of yours, XP runs great on a netbook as long as it has 1gb of ram or more a fast ssd or plain vanilla hard drive. The user experience of running XP is just too good to warrant what most people would see as a downgrade to Linux.

Right now Linux's fight on the x86 platform is pretty much lost, one can only hope that ARM will become a greater competitor to x86 and raise the fortunes of Linux along with it.

The one thing I always felt that linux needed was a huge ass company to get behind it and turn it into a joe sixpack OS, google has the power to do that and I hope it is able to. My fear though it that google will make a severely limited OS in which surfing, email and media are perfect but for anything else users will be at the mercy of the Linux console.
 
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