Just curious, how so?bishop said:
Been using Ubuntu 9.04 x86 since this past april and it easily outperforms my desktop running the same only 32bit version of 9.04.
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Been using Ubuntu 9.04 x86 since this past april and it easily outperforms my desktop running the same only 32bit version of 9.04.
I am talking about market share and not about technical merits. Netbooks were the perfect battlefield for Linux to win against MS, even so linux lost big time. If Linux can not get a large chunk of the netbook market share there is little hope that they can capture a sizable chunk of any market; netbook, notebook, desktop or otherwise. The exception of course is server and specialized fields that require very a very efficient OS for number crunching and simulations.WoodPeckr said:Just curious, how so?
Been using Ubuntu 9.04 x86 since this past april and it easily outperforms my desktop running the same only 32bit version of 9.04.
Google has a big name and they have a shot to change the game. However looking at the chrome browser one realizes that even a big company like Google might not be enough to make an impact in a market dominated by MS.
This was my thought when I read this, Linux with a real brand, deep pockets...... With all the "advantages" of Linux it still has less than 1% of the OS market share..... I'm really hoping Goggle can do better.bishop said:My thinking is opposite of yours, XP runs great on a netbook as long as it has 1gb of ram or more a fast ssd or plain vanilla hard drive. The user experience of running XP is just too good to warrant what most people would see as a downgrade to Linux.
Right now Linux's fight on the x86 platform is pretty much lost, one can only hope that ARM will become a greater competitor to x86 and raise the fortunes of Linux along with it.
The one thing I always felt that linux needed was a huge ass company to get behind it and turn it into a joe sixpack OS, google has the power to do that and I hope it is able to. My fear though it that google will make a severely limited OS in which surfing, email and media are perfect but for anything else users will be at the mercy of the Linux console.
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M$ will muscle them out like all the others.onthebottom said:.... I'm really hoping Goggle can do better.
XP is a solid OS still widely used and liked. This is why M$ decided to relent on phasing XP out and preload XP on as many netbooks as possible. XP runs great with 1GB RAM on the netbooks out now but Linux runs faster.
Perhaps but it's not like Google doesn't have resources..... and I think nearly everyone is sick of M$WoodPeckr said:M$ will muscle them out like all the others.
XP is a solid OS still widely used and liked. This is why M$ decided to relent on phasing XP out and preload XP on as many netbooks as possible. XP runs great with 1GB RAM on the netbooks out now but Linux runs faster.
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Five Reasons Why Microsoft Does Not Need to Worry About Google Chrome OS
http://finance.yahoo.com/techticker...e-Chrome-OS;_ylt=AvGA9KWCNG8wOttwKfA1hljeba9_
Microsoft still hasn’t commented on Google’s plans to introduce an operating system of its own. An official statement is coming later today and we’ll post it here when it comes out. (Update: Microsoft now says it will in fact not comment). But there are lots of reasons why Microsoft does not need to be too concerned about Google’s foray into its home turf. Here are five:
—Windows 7 is not Vista: Google’s operating system, which is initially targeted for netbooks, will only be available starting in mid-2010. By then, Microsoft’s new operating system, Windows 7, will have been on the market for at least nine months. Unlike its predecessor Windows Vista, Windows 7 has received rave early reviews. Also unlike Vista, Microsoft has promised that Windows 7 will work as well on netbooks as on high-end gaming PCs. As one Microsoft employee wrote on his blog today, “If Win7 didn’t have a SKU for Netbooks, this might even be interesting.” Microsoft will therefore be in a strong position to defend its turf than when Chrome OS comes out
—Microsoft is building its own browser optimized to run web apps: Like Google, Microsoft understands that more people are running applications from within the browser—and is moving quickly to adapt its products to that reality. The company’s research arm, Microsoft Research, is developing a new browser called Gazelle, which it describes as a “browser-based OS” optimized to run web apps. Just last week, the company put out a summary of the principles behind the project.
—Chrome OS will compete with Ubuntu:
Chrome OS—which is open source—will further fragment the open source operating system market, since it will provide yet another option, writes Renai LeMay at ZDNet. This comes just as Ubuntu was becoming the dominant choice. He writes, “In this context, Google’s decision to create its own Linux distribution and splinter the Linux community decisively ... can only be seen as foolhardy and self-obsessive.” That could obviously benefit Microsoft.
—Are consumers ready for a life on the web?
Most of the user experience in Chrome OS will take place on the web, so it’s not likely that computers with the operating system installed will be able to run any Windows applications. That will likely limit adoption. Writes Bernstein Research’s Jeffrey Lindsay, “Google would need to rely on people to more fully adopt web-based services (a long-dated proposition), or for software developers to port their applications over to Chrome OS.”
—Google’s track record outside of search is poor:
Google has launched other high-profile attacks on Microsoft products, with only limited success so far. The company has gone after Office with Google Docs and Internet Explorer with Chrome. Both products may have generated lots of buzz but not much market share. And, of course, Microsoft is also going on the offensive, with its revamped search engine Bing, which directly targets Google’s core business.
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Chrome vs Ubuntu.... hmm.. don't know about that .
But to be honest, I'd be still very happy if Linux remains small and tight : lesser chance of getting targeted by virus programmer.
http://finance.yahoo.com/techticker...e-Chrome-OS;_ylt=AvGA9KWCNG8wOttwKfA1hljeba9_
Microsoft still hasn’t commented on Google’s plans to introduce an operating system of its own. An official statement is coming later today and we’ll post it here when it comes out. (Update: Microsoft now says it will in fact not comment). But there are lots of reasons why Microsoft does not need to be too concerned about Google’s foray into its home turf. Here are five:
—Windows 7 is not Vista: Google’s operating system, which is initially targeted for netbooks, will only be available starting in mid-2010. By then, Microsoft’s new operating system, Windows 7, will have been on the market for at least nine months. Unlike its predecessor Windows Vista, Windows 7 has received rave early reviews. Also unlike Vista, Microsoft has promised that Windows 7 will work as well on netbooks as on high-end gaming PCs. As one Microsoft employee wrote on his blog today, “If Win7 didn’t have a SKU for Netbooks, this might even be interesting.” Microsoft will therefore be in a strong position to defend its turf than when Chrome OS comes out
—Microsoft is building its own browser optimized to run web apps: Like Google, Microsoft understands that more people are running applications from within the browser—and is moving quickly to adapt its products to that reality. The company’s research arm, Microsoft Research, is developing a new browser called Gazelle, which it describes as a “browser-based OS” optimized to run web apps. Just last week, the company put out a summary of the principles behind the project.
—Chrome OS will compete with Ubuntu:
Chrome OS—which is open source—will further fragment the open source operating system market, since it will provide yet another option, writes Renai LeMay at ZDNet. This comes just as Ubuntu was becoming the dominant choice. He writes, “In this context, Google’s decision to create its own Linux distribution and splinter the Linux community decisively ... can only be seen as foolhardy and self-obsessive.” That could obviously benefit Microsoft.
—Are consumers ready for a life on the web?
Most of the user experience in Chrome OS will take place on the web, so it’s not likely that computers with the operating system installed will be able to run any Windows applications. That will likely limit adoption. Writes Bernstein Research’s Jeffrey Lindsay, “Google would need to rely on people to more fully adopt web-based services (a long-dated proposition), or for software developers to port their applications over to Chrome OS.”
—Google’s track record outside of search is poor:
Google has launched other high-profile attacks on Microsoft products, with only limited success so far. The company has gone after Office with Google Docs and Internet Explorer with Chrome. Both products may have generated lots of buzz but not much market share. And, of course, Microsoft is also going on the offensive, with its revamped search engine Bing, which directly targets Google’s core business.
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Chrome vs Ubuntu.... hmm.. don't know about that .
But to be honest, I'd be still very happy if Linux remains small and tight : lesser chance of getting targeted by virus programmer.
Chrome competing with ubuntu is not a bad thing overall, it might be bad at the start since it will fragment the already fragemented base, but Google OS has the possibility to be the defacto linux distribution eventually eclipsing Ubuntu and providing a standard distribution to take MS on.Berlin said:Five Reasons Why Microsoft Does Not Need to Worry About Google Chrome OS
http://finance.yahoo.com/techticker...e-Chrome-OS;_ylt=AvGA9KWCNG8wOttwKfA1hljeba9_
Microsoft still hasn’t commented on Google’s plans to introduce an operating system of its own. An official statement is coming later today and we’ll post it here when it comes out. (Update: Microsoft now says it will in fact not comment). But there are lots of reasons why Microsoft does not need to be too concerned about Google’s foray into its home turf. Here are five:
—Windows 7 is not Vista: Google’s operating system, which is initially targeted for netbooks, will only be available starting in mid-2010. By then, Microsoft’s new operating system, Windows 7, will have been on the market for at least nine months. Unlike its predecessor Windows Vista, Windows 7 has received rave early reviews. Also unlike Vista, Microsoft has promised that Windows 7 will work as well on netbooks as on high-end gaming PCs. As one Microsoft employee wrote on his blog today, “If Win7 didn’t have a SKU for Netbooks, this might even be interesting.” Microsoft will therefore be in a strong position to defend its turf than when Chrome OS comes out
—Microsoft is building its own browser optimized to run web apps: Like Google, Microsoft understands that more people are running applications from within the browser—and is moving quickly to adapt its products to that reality. The company’s research arm, Microsoft Research, is developing a new browser called Gazelle, which it describes as a “browser-based OS” optimized to run web apps. Just last week, the company put out a summary of the principles behind the project.
—Chrome OS will compete with Ubuntu:
Chrome OS—which is open source—will further fragment the open source operating system market, since it will provide yet another option, writes Renai LeMay at ZDNet. This comes just as Ubuntu was becoming the dominant choice. He writes, “In this context, Google’s decision to create its own Linux distribution and splinter the Linux community decisively ... can only be seen as foolhardy and self-obsessive.” That could obviously benefit Microsoft.
—Are consumers ready for a life on the web?
Most of the user experience in Chrome OS will take place on the web, so it’s not likely that computers with the operating system installed will be able to run any Windows applications. That will likely limit adoption. Writes Bernstein Research’s Jeffrey Lindsay, “Google would need to rely on people to more fully adopt web-based services (a long-dated proposition), or for software developers to port their applications over to Chrome OS.”
—Google’s track record outside of search is poor:
Google has launched other high-profile attacks on Microsoft products, with only limited success so far. The company has gone after Office with Google Docs and Internet Explorer with Chrome. Both products may have generated lots of buzz but not much market share. And, of course, Microsoft is also going on the offensive, with its revamped search engine Bing, which directly targets Google’s core business.
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Chrome vs Ubuntu.... hmm.. don't know about that .
But to be honest, I'd be still very happy if Linux remains small and tight : lesser chance of getting targeted by virus programmer.
I am not ready for a life on the Web OS, that just screams to me that the emphasis is on youtube streaming, facebook, email, and IM. It might alienate hardcore geeks looking for the traditional strengths of linux; plenty of open source development tools and an efficient OS for handing highly computing intensive tasks.
Google's track record outside search is indeed troubling. The whole reason why google's stock price is so high is because people think the huge success it has achieved will easily translate into success in all things tech related. After each failure that air of invincibility will be lessened, people will eventually see google as just another tech company that is capable of making mistakes like any other tech company.
MS has very very deep technical knowledge and given a good idea they can throw $$ and manpower at the challenge and be successful, however lately they have a poor track record of generating new groundbreaking ideas. Google on the other hand, is full of great ideas but they really lack the technical depth to perfectly execute their ideas.
I am afraid Google will be the AMD of the AMD vs Intel battle, where AMD went head to head with Intel in all market segments with 1/10 the manpower Intel has and got crushed in each battle. The end result was huge financial loss and now AMD is only able to put up a marginal fight in the few battles it now chooses to fight with Intel.
