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silentkisser

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People are leaving California for several reasons, not the left-leaning politics. There are serious issues with water. The vast majority of the state is in drought (many parts classified as severe). The economy, however, is very strong. They also have seen a drop in births and immigration (due to Trump and COVID).

While Scottsdale is a beautiful city...they cannot support a huge population. They have serious water issues as well. They are also in a severe drought, and Lake Meade is at historically low levels. Now, hard to argue about a place that has nearly perfect weather 365 days a year. A place where you can golf all the time, watch the four major professional sports (and college athletics as well), and is a shorter drive to Vegas than either LA or San Fran...

What about Texas, Dallas, Austin or Houston? All are nice cities, but the right-wing state government has really screwed the pooch by not fixing the power grid...which is costing people their lives and businesses millions of dollars...Heck, maybe if enough Californians go to Texas, they can make it an actually decent place to live...
 

shack

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Now, hard to argue about a place that has nearly perfect weather 365 days a year.
That would be San Diego, not Scottsdale/Phoenix.

There is oppressive heat from at least the period of June/July/August. People who are able, flee the city in droves. The cheapest rounds of golf are at this time because nobody wants to play.

It's also safe because it's mainly made up of gated communities.

I've been there about 8-10 times.
 

Insidious Von

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There is a cheap and cheerful way to solve California's water problem, shut down the 950+ golf course. Then you'd have plenty of water for everyone.
 
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Darts

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The dry air was mentioned in the phrase below as the reason why Henderson went to Arizona. Maybe I should have put quotation marks in the phrase for anyone who doesn't understand it is a quote but I thought it was already obvious.

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mandrill

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mandrill

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There are many great American cities. As an example, I offer Scottsdale (home of hockey star Auston Matthews). Ever wonder why people are fleeing hardcore lefty California for Arizona and Texas?
Scottsdale, Ariz. ranked among best cities in the nation to live (ktar.com)
Darts, when America is gone and folks write about the great deeds and places of the Lost Empire, they'll write about Boston, New York, Chicago, Los Angeles and San Francisco. They won't write about Scottsdale, AZ.

The only loser who might think that Scottsdale is "great" is a retired lawn furniture exec who likes golf and barbecue and slips out on his wife to go to Vegas 3 days a week for what passes for real fun in the sad shitpile to the South of us.
 

Darts

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Back in the day, L.A. was a great city. To-day and for the past decade it is a shithole city. Of course, that is obvious to anyone who has actually been to L.A. and wrote/film it. (Toronto is showing early signs of the same decay.)
Los Angeles is a Sh*thole - YouTube
 

mandrill

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Back in the day, L.A. was a great city. To-day and for the past decade it is a shithole city. Of course, that is obvious to anyone who has actually been to L.A. and wrote/film it. (Toronto is showing early signs of the same decay.)
Los Angeles is a Sh*thole - YouTube
So how is Toronto "decaying", Darts?

Aside from house prices which are fucked....

And how is Toronto being run any differently than 20 years ago?.... Hint: It isn't.
 
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