Guns

[jalimon]

I think I am too intelligent for this gun issue.

I mean if you do not think gun is the problem but people is the problem, why would you want the people to have guns?

p.s. I am not that intelligent, I read that somewhere but I forgot where.

 

[y2kmark]

Hilarious.

The other thread saw people screeching about how a shooting was being politicized to demonize a specific group of people.

Yet here are the same group of hypocrites, politicizing a shooting to demonize a different group of people.

There's an old saying: It all depends on whose ox is being gored...

 

[basketcase]

H...

Yet here are the same group of hypocrites, politicizing a shooting to demonize a different group of people.

Yes, the people who shoot up groups of people should be demonized. So should the politicians who continue to block the implementation of red flag laws and universal background checks.

 

[cunning linguist]

Yes, the people who shoot up groups of people should be demonized...

I bet you if "red flag laws" automatically blocked trans (or insert flavour of the month special interest group here) people from legally owning firearms, you'd be singing a different tune.

Why don't we ask your "hunting buddy" how they feel about the issue?

Blaming responsible gun owners for shootings is kinda like blaming responsible trans people for shootings; the former has nothing to do with the latter, it's just an exercise in scoring political points for your team and promoting your brand of discrimination.

 

[bver_hunter]

 

[cunning linguist]

Some Canadians are taking some realistic, effective action against gun violence. Google "Project Moneypenny"...

This may come as a shock to you, but gun owners support initiatives that target actual crime, like Project Moneypenny. Wonder how long it will take before it's deemed "racist".

However useless, feel-good legislation that specifically targets and criminalizes gun owners? Not so much.

 

[cunning linguist]

Hold the presses, ONE person said this???!!!



Here's a rebuttal:

 

[Frankfooter]

This may come as a shock to you, but gun owners support initiatives that target actual crime, like Project Moneypenny. Wonder how long it will take before it's deemed "racist".

However useless, feel-good legislation that specifically targets and criminalizes gun owners? Not so much.

The stats show that the more guns, the more gun deaths.

 

[bver_hunter]

Hold the presses, ONE person said this???!!!



Here's a rebuttal:

The capabilities of the AR-15 did not exist in that age. If such weapons are stored in a safe manner at Marine bases and can only be used in drills or a real war, then no wonder that when it ends up in the hands of those individuals that are mentally unstable or gangs and cartels, it then causes these mass shootings!!

 

[jcpro]

About 21k Americans die by guns(excluding suicides) every year out of population of well over 320 million. How many die of drug overdoses pouring through the open borders every year? Let me help you- over 78 THOUSAND.

 

[Leimonis]

About 21k Americans die by guns(excluding suicides) every year out of population of well over 320 million. How many die of drug overdoses pouring through the open borders every year? Let me help you- over 78 THOUSAND.

Yet only one of those causes is financially supported by Putin yes it’s the NRA

 

[cunning linguist]

The capabilities of the AR-15 did not exist in that age. If such weapons are stored in a safe manner at Marine bases and can only be used in drills or a real war, then no wonder that when it ends up in the hands of those individuals that are mentally unstable or gangs and cartels, it then causes these mass shootings!!

In that age, civilians could own the exact same rifle (cutting edge weapons technology at the time) issued to infantry and keep it in their own homes. That is no longer the case, as the average civilian can't own an M-16/M4; the AR-15 is a compromise.

Yet the ignorant continue conflate the two and spread disinformation.

 

[jcpro]

Yet only one of those causes is financially supported by Putin yes it’s the NRA

What difference your pet political points make with over 78k opioid deaths? What you are saying in reality is that you really don't give a shit about the carnage, if it's not the right kind of carnage. Not really a surprise is it?

 

[jalimon]

About 21k Americans die by guns(excluding suicides) every year out of population of well over 320 million. How many die of drug overdoses pouring through the open borders every year? Let me help you- over 78 THOUSAND.

What’s the source on that?

And anyhow Opioid are taken by american citizens to freeze their brain out of misery. If it wasn’t opioid it would be something else.

The border are as open as they were under Trump and under Obama previously.

 

[jcpro]

What’s the source on that?

And anyhow Opioid are taken by american citizens to freeze their brain out of misery. If it wasn’t opioid it would be something else.

The border are as open as they were under Trump and under Obama previously.

The source is the CDC. And your assertion that the border was the same under Trump is garbage. Be that as it may, the real tragedy is the opioid holocaust and diddly squat that is being done about it while thousands of mostly young Americans go to their graves unnoticed.

 

[jalimon]

The source is the CDC. And your assertion that the border was the same under Trump is garbage. Be that as it may, the real tragedy is the opioid holocaust and diddly squat that is being done about it while thousands of mostly young Americans go to their graves unnoticed.

It would be easier to help people in the US not to take drug. And yes that means many socialist measure... Ho my god that is so hard to accept.

As long as there is a demand there will be providers. These poor people in columbia, mexico, nicaragua, honduras name it will make a pleasure to make a living out of delivering drug to the US.

And no the border was a fucking mess under Trump no matter how you think.

 

[jcpro]

It would be easier to help people in the US not to take drug. And yes that means many socialist measure... Ho my god that is so hard to accept.

As long as there is a demand there will be providers. These poor people in columbia, mexico, nicaragua, honduras name it will make a pleasure to make a living out of delivering drug to the US.

And no the border was a fucking mess under Trump no matter how you think.

Now, you know how I feel about "guns". The manufacturers will keep providing good jobs and if the idiots want to shoot each other, so much the better.

 

[Leimonis]

What difference your pet political points make with over 78k opioid deaths? What you are saying in reality is that you really don't give a shit about the carnage, if it's not the right kind of carnage. Not really a surprise is it?

At least opioids bring some tangible joy. Guns are just unnecessary idiocy from which the ultra right profit.

 

[jalimon]

Now, you know how I feel about "guns". The manufacturers will keep providing good jobs and if the idiots want to shoot each other, so much the better.

Guns should simply not be available. If we need gun to have a good society we are doomed. It's a lose lose situation.

Nothing but absolutely nothing can come good with guns.

 

[jcpro]

Guns should simply not be available. If we need gun to have a good society we are doomed. It's a lose lose situation.

Nothing but absolutely nothing can come good with guns.

Nothing good? Try to sell that line to the Ukrainians.