Hamas Leader says terrorism only way untill Israel is destroyed

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. I champion universal human rights.
All you are is a Israel/Jewish hating troll, if you truly championed human rights you would speak up for injustices including those done by your arab/muslim brothers.(and others) But your choice is to be silent and focus on Israel/Jews, that is why your a racist. A racist troll.
 

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shapeup1, Gryfin actually supports the killing of Israeli civilians by Palestinians. Ask him to deny it, he won't.

He doesn't just criticize Israel. He actually supports the killing of Israeli civilians.
 

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shapeup1, Gryfin actually supports the killing of Israeli civilians by Palestinians. Ask him to deny it, he won't.

He doesn't just criticize Israel. He actually supports the killing of Israeli civilians.
You lie.
Prove this assertion or shut up.
 

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Number of people killed by violence:

----------------------Israelis-------------Palestinians
2006.....................23....................... .665
2007.....................19....................... .385
2008.....................35....................... .887
2009......................9....................... 1034
2010......................8....................... ...70
Wow, numbers just out of the blue. How many of those numbers are because of someone bringing a knife to gun fight. What kind of violent deaths are we talking about? How many deaths are Palestinians killing Palestinians?
 

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Wow, numbers just out of the blue. How many of those numbers are because of someone bringing a knife to gun fight. What kind of violent deaths are we talking about? How many deaths are Palestinians killing Palestinians?
no those numbers are real because Israeli tactics amount to the following "hey there is a Hamas dude in that apartment building, so instead of trying to single out and target him only, let's bring down the entire building, meh after all they are only A-rabs and no A-rabs means no terrorism" This has been used by the Israeli army time and time again, inflict collective punishment on an entire population, and when that population begins to fight back, sing and dance about school buses being blown up with pregnant women, oh throw in some verses about Auschwitz and Treblinka too. The invincibility and angelic behaviour that we have been led to believe in the West of the Israelis has been smashed, they are only good at bringing down apartment blocks in Beirut or chasing Palestinian kids down alleyways in Gaza.
 

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Wow, numbers just out of the blue. How many of those numbers are because of someone bringing a knife to gun fight. What kind of violent deaths are we talking about? How many deaths are Palestinians killing Palestinians?
These numbers are purported to be israelis killed by palestinians and palestinians killed by israel.
 

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Gryfin, if I'm wrong just go ahead and deny it: Say you do not support the killing of Israeli civilians by Palestinians.
As suspected, you have no proof and are just randomly accusing people of heinous acts.
Typical.

And since you have no proof, you should apologize.
 

blackrock13

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no those numbers are real because Israeli tactics amount to the following "hey there is a Hamas dude in that apartment building, so instead of trying to single out and target him only, let's bring down the entire building, meh after all they are only A-rabs and no A-rabs means no terrorism" This has been used by the Israeli army time and time again, inflict collective punishment on an entire population, and when that population begins to fight back, sing and dance about school buses being blown up with pregnant women, oh throw in some verses about Auschwitz and Treblinka too. The invincibility and angelic behaviour that we have been led to believe in the West of the Israelis has been smashed, they are only good at bringing down apartment blocks in Beirut or chasing Palestinian kids down alleyways in Gaza.
Riiiiiight!
 

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These numbers are purported to be israelis killed by palestinians and palestinians killed by israel.
That I figured out, but wherever they came form, the knife/gunfight analogy still stand. Only an idiot would do that and only a real idiot would keep doing it. Remember Einstein's quote about insanity.
 

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That I figured out, but wherever they came form, the knife/gunfight analogy still stand. Only an idiot would do that and only a real idiot would keep doing it. Remember Einstein's quote about insanity.
So, why did you suggest that it was partly palestinians killing palestinians?
 

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As suspected, you have no proof and are just randomly accusing people of heinous acts.
I stand by my claim: Gryfin supports the killing of Israeli civilians by Palestinians. You're new around here. This topic isn't. This has been discussed before, for years, go search the archives.

Gryfin will not deny it, and has several times celebrated the deaths of Israeli civilians.

At any rate -- Gryfin can speak for himself. If it's wrong, he will correct it. It's not wrong, and he will not correct it.
 

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These numbers are purported to be israelis killed by palestinians and palestinians killed by israel.
What conclusions do you want to draw from the numbers? Why are you posting them?

Here is some analysis for you:

-- Israel is simply better at killing Hamas, than Hamas is at killing Israel, in other words, Israel is winning.

-- Hamas makes regular and routine use of human shields, intentionally putting its military infrastructure in amongst civilians

-- Hamas considers it a benefit to maximize the number of Palestinians killed in the conflict, whereas Israel tries to minimize that number
 

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What conclusions do you want to draw from the numbers? Why are you posting them?

Here is some analysis for you:
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Actually I'd say the best analysis is from the article that started this thread.

Palestinians must resort to resistance no matter how costly it is, until Palestine is free and Israel is destroyed," Meshal said.
 

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I stand by my claim: Gryfin supports the killing of Israeli civilians by Palestinians. You're new around here. This topic isn't. This has been discussed before, for years, go search the archives.

Gryfin will not deny it, and has several times celebrated the deaths of Israeli civilians.

At any rate -- Gryfin can speak for himself. If it's wrong, he will correct it. It's not wrong, and he will not correct it.
So you still don't have any proof.
Its just yet another example of you throwing around accusations without any basis.
Your opinion is worth less and less the more of this I see.
 

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-- Israel is simply better at killing Hamas, than Hamas is at killing Israel, in other words, Israel is winning.

-- Hamas makes regular and routine use of human shields, intentionally putting its military infrastructure in amongst civilians

-- Hamas considers it a benefit to maximize the number of Palestinians killed in the conflict, whereas Israel tries to minimize that number
Hamas doesn't make use of human shields, that's a bald faced lie. In fact the Goldstone report accused only Israel of using human shields, not Hamas.
You have it backwards.

And your assertion that Hamas tries to get Palestinians is as truthful as your claim about Gyrfin.
Another baseless accusation.

Do you ever tell the truth?
 

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So you still don't have any proof.
Gryfin can speak for himself. You will note he doesn't deny it.

Gryfin you have an opportunity right now to deny it: If you don't support the killing of Israeli civilians by Palestinians, just say so!

Certainly I am opposed to the intentional targeting of any country's civilians, American, Canadian, Israeli, Palestinian. Civilians should never be targets.

Groggy where do you stand?

We know where Gryfin stands: He supports the killing of Israeli civilians by Palestinians.
 

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Hamas doesn't make use of human shields, that's a bald faced lie. In fact the Goldstone report accused only Israel of using human shields, not Hamas.
You have it backwards.



And your assertion that Hamas tries to get Palestinians is as truthful as your claim about Gyrfin.
Hamas admits using civilians as human shields in this tape:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTu-AUE9ycs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J08GqXMr3YE

Did Gryfin ask you to speak for him? He's a big boy and can come here and admit it or deny it. Very simple. Your attempt to cover up for him makes you look like a goof.
 
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