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So what I been hearing is that BLM and Pride organizers have agreed that there will be no TPS float next year ????????

WOW, one of the biggest promoters of #TOPride2016 and they cave into BLM demands.

BLM only matters when it's in their interest. When black people are killing black people, BLM activist seem to disappear.
After all of the work that has been put into improving the relationship between the police and the LGBT community, BLM wrecks it in one day. The Pride organizers caved in, cowards. Black lives don't matter if the killer is black.
 
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There, and stopped the parade temporarily with demands to boot.

"We didn't bully our way into Pride ... we made space for ourselves in a place where we have been erased," Williams added.

In a news release, the group said Pride Toronto "has shown little honour to black queer/trans communities, and other marginalized communities. Over the years, Pride has threatened the existence of black spaces at Pride that have existed for years."

The group released a list of demands, including a commitment to increase representation among Pride Toronto staff, and to prioritize the hiring of black transgender women and indigenous people.
Some of the other demands Chantelois agreed to are that the parade will no longer have police floats, and the organization will hold a public town hall with groups such as Black Lives Matter Toronto within six months.

Pride Toronto, in response to the sit-in, said it welcomes the opportunity to "continue the conversation" with Black Lives Matter Toronto.

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I just don't get the demands, or anyone listening to them. I've attended Pride in Hamilton, and nobody is excluded, all are welcome.
Bad cops are out there, and need to be dealt with accordingly. But the majority of Toronto police are diverse, care about the community and just doing their jobs. They have a right to be at this parade, especially if invited.

You don't improve relations, by excluding a group, or by taking over another groups day. Just enjoy a gorgeous summer day, and get along with no politics for once.

I agree. BLM hijacked the Pride Parade. Don't think Martin Luther King would've agreed with their tactics. Why couldn't they march with their own banner? Were they excluded?
 

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And in Hamilton, the local police service is denying that racism plays any role in the fact that its own stats evidence that officers disproportionately target, stop, question and collect the personal information of young black people in that city.

I love it when people use stats to try and prove a point - but don't actually stop and think about what the numbers really mean. You can't just say cops stop more black people than white people so therefore they are racist. What if the cops are patrolling a particular neighborhood because it is 'high crime' - and what if that neighborhood is also predominantly minority? If the cops stop 10% to talk to them chances are pretty good if the area is 90% minority then the cops have in fact talked to more minorities. So yes you can say they have stopped more minorities - but that is not racist - it's math.

If you patrolled little Italy you would talk to more Italians. If you patrolled China town you would talk to more Chinese. Etc.... It's not racist - it's math.

If you patrolled a crowed that was 50/50 black and white - and THEN talked to more of one or the other - then THAT would be racist.

Stats do not always tell the whole story.
 

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When is a public figure/politician going to stand up and denounce BLM's behavior at Pride? Will any politician meet with these pariahs after this disgraceful behavior? Instead of treating BLM as honoured guests will Pride ban them next year? If not, Pride needs a new executive.
 
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Watching CITY news , PRIDE will be backtracking on what was signed yesterday. Deal was signed to let parade continue.
 

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Watching CITY news , PRIDE will be backtracking on what was signed yesterday. Deal was signed to let parade continue.
BLM extorted the Gay Pride Chief Executive. That document was signed under duress. How can BLM call that an accomplishment? Are we to expect more trouble from them going forward? Could this incite a more militant group a la The Black Panthers?
 
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BLM extorted the Gay Pride Chief Executive. That document was signed under duress. How can BLM call that an accomplishment? Are we to expect more trouble from them going forward? Could this incite a more militant group a la the Black Panthers?
Toronto Star called it a victory for BLM, I think they took a hit on this one.
 

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Toronto Star called it a victory for BLM, I think they took a hit on this one.
The Toronto Star is a financially troubled left wing rag. Rosie Dimano is one of the few objective opinions there. Their POV is entirely predictable.
 

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Toronto Star called it a victory for BLM, I think they took a hit on this one.
BLM is on the TV news and in every newspaper. That kind of publicity, along with the surrender by Pride executives, is a victory for that kind of group. The fact that Pride is backtracking as fast as it can does not undo the harm caused by their announcement that the police would be banned from Pride next year. The cops are angry and rightly so. Pride owes them an apology, not just a statement that the committee will vote on whether to ban the cops. I don't think Pride is honorable enough to apologize to the cops. Maybe they will surprise me. Leftists like the Pride executives and most Toronto politicians are so afraid of being called racist they will give the BLM activists anything to avoid a confrontation. Pride is going to get a confrontation with BLM when the vote on the cops' participation is taken. I love it when the leftists turn on each other. They always do. Maybe Pride will have grown a pair and a backbone by then. I will bet that Pride's apology to BLM will be more fulsome than Pride's apology to the cops, if they apologize to the cops at all.
 
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If Pride caves and they might, I will boycott the parade next year. I will also pray for thunder, lightning and torrential rain on their parade. I do not suffer fools gladly (except here on Terb).
 

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The Toronto Star is a financially troubled left wing rag. Rosie Dimanno is one of the few objective opinions there. Their POV is entirely predictable.
That's not saying much, but I guess we can tolerate if not like her for being a Star reporter for so long (I corrected your spelling of her name). At least she's a nice Italian gal.
 

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If Pride caves and they might, I will boycott the parade next year. I will also pray for thunder, lightning and torrential rain on their parade. I do not suffer fools gladly (except here on Terb).
A gay cop, who also served in the Canadian Armed Forces for a tour in Afghanistan, spoke out against the BLM demand that the police be barred from the Parade. Thank goodness for his voice.
 

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A gay cop, who also served in the Canadian Armed Forces for a tour in Afghanistan, spoke out against the BLM demand that the police be barred from the Parade. Thank goodness for his voice.
The BLM guy said the cop can participate but not in uniform. This is ridiculous. He is a proud cop and he should be entitled to wear the uniform. Pride can't dictate what a participant can or can't wear.

P.S. I'm not a regular attendee at the Gay Pride Parade but I wanted to show solidarity with our gay community given what happened in Orlando.
 

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I love it when people use stats to try and prove a point - but don't actually stop and think about what the numbers really mean. You can't just say cops stop more black people than white people so therefore they are racist. What if the cops are patrolling a particular neighborhood because it is 'high crime' - and what if that neighborhood is also predominantly minority? If the cops stop 10% to talk to them chances are pretty good if the area is 90% minority then the cops have in fact talked to more minorities. So yes you can say they have stopped more minorities - but that is not racist - it's math.

If you patrolled little Italy you would talk to more Italians. If you patrolled China town you would talk to more Chinese. Etc.... It's not racist - it's math.

If you patrolled a crowed that was 50/50 black and white - and THEN talked to more of one or the other - then THAT would be racist.

Stats do not always tell the whole story.
Quest4Less I give you an F for your math because you are so naive, the problem with your math is that even in Little Italy and China town, Black people are still carded more than Italian or Chinese in their respective community.
 

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Quest4Less I give you an F for your math because you are so naive, the problem with your math is that even in Little Italy and China town, Black people are still carded more than Italian or Chinese in their respective community.
I don't think Chinese are carded because they are timid little creatures who wouldn't hurt a fly. Italians are a bit different because they talk very loud and some (not all and probably not many but some) belong to crime families.
 

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Pride proved what a bunch of cowards they were yesterday by signing the document. If this was ANY other group Asians for Tibet? Hippies for cannabis? etc they would have been given 10 minutes to move and then been physically removed at PRIDES request. When the hell did this type of passiveness to aggression become the norm!?!. They just gave any group an open invitation to plunk their asses down on their parade route for whatever cause they may have. What a fucking insult to the cops by appeasing these assholes. If I was that police chief I'd say "Well, we don't want to make anyone uncomfortable, so we'll stay home next year. No floats, no volunteering, no security or traffic presence of any kind. Have a good parade folks. Peace and love"......fucking pathetic.


For the record. THAT's a parade I'd pay to see
 

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The BLM guy said the cop can participate but not in uniform. This is ridiculous. He is a proud cop and he should be entitled to wear the uniform. Pride can't dictate what a participant can or can't wear.

P.S. I'm not a regular attendee at the Gay Pride Parade but I wanted to show solidarity with our gay community given what happened in Orlando.
BLM is against discrimination, but they are willing to discriminate against an entire group of civil servants.
 
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