Harvey Weinstein the serial sexual harasser.

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Butler1000

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If it was YOUR career that was going to be wrecked, you might hesitate for a couple of decades too. It's easy to stomp your little foot when all you have at stake is a post on TERB. The women who have come forward now are either established mega stars or out of the film business completely. And they have only stepped forward because others took the same difficult step.

Now I realize that scoring points against "lefties" and film world people on TERB is very, very important to you. But put yourself in these women's shoes for a second or two. Not only would their careers have been ruined, but everyone would have closed ranks around Weinberg and protected him. Why? - Because he is / was a major Hollywood rainmaker. You play his game or you get kicked out of Hollywood. And don't think it's going to change very much now. Weinberg may have been outed. But there are a thousand Weinbergs and the other 999 are still operating.

Personally I think that every Weinberg or Cosby who is nailed is a step forward. But play for work is as old as the hills in the entertainment world and that isn't going to change.

And none of the women named in the article ever cheered for Polanski, let alone Stalin. That belongs in your own little fantasy world.
Perhaps not some of the named women. But people like Streep sure have. And numerous others in Hollywood as well.

And the Clintons and Obama accepted a lot of money. Obama's daughter even interned there. Now it's all coming back to roost.

It's now a people in glass houses thing. Both for the delay in coming out with statements and especially with Clinton flat out two faced enabling of this behavior for power.
 

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It is too bad so many people stayed silent for so long.

But as someone else pointed out. Back in the Miramax days they were industry giants and it would have been career suicide.
 

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Perhaps not some of the named women. But people like Streep sure have. And numerous others in Hollywood as well.

And the Clintons and Obama accepted a lot of money. Obama's daughter even interned there. Now it's all coming back to roost.

It's now a people in glass houses thing. Both for the delay in coming out with statements and especially with Clinton flat out two faced enabling of this behavior for power.
Yup. Of course. It's all Hillary's fault. As always. And Obama's.

You must post about Hillary 90% of the time. You are obsessed with Hillary.

While Weinstein's coarseness might have been an open secret to Hollywood insiders, it certainly wasn't public knowledge. It's impossible to imagine that the Obama's would have let their daughter intern there if they had known that W was a serial rapist and harasser. What parents would have done that?! A daughter of the president could have interned anywhere she wanted - any film company, any theatre production house, any talent agency, wherever. All BHO had to do was pick up the phone. So why would they have sent her to Miramax if they knew??!!

The Obamas accepted money from tons of people. So does every politician. This is a story about corruption in Hollywood. It's not about the Obamas or the Clintons or the Democratic Party. Sorry to have to tell you.
 

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Perhaps not some of the named women. But people like Streep sure have. And numerous others in Hollywood as well.

And the Clintons and Obama accepted a lot of money. Obama's daughter even interned there. Now it's all coming back to roost.

It's now a people in glass houses thing. Both for the delay in coming out with statements and especially with Clinton flat out two faced enabling of this behavior for power.
Why does everyone feel it necessary to make "a statement".

It's really none of their fucking business. I could see if politicians want to make a statement, but really, Clinton and Obama are just citizens now.

Even some of the hollywood big shots like Streep et al. Unless someone asks them their opinion, they should keep their mouths shut and let this play out.

Every minute more and more damning information about Weinstein is released. He's done no matter what and at his age, he doesn't recover from this one.
 

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Yup. Of course. It's all Hillary's fault. As always. And Obama's.

You must post about Hillary 90% of the time. You are obsessed with Hillary.

While Weinstein's coarseness might have been an open secret to Hollywood insiders, it certainly wasn't public knowledge. It's impossible to imagine that the Obama's would have let their daughter intern there if they had known that W was a serial rapist and harasser. What parents would have done that?! A daughter of the president could have interned anywhere she wanted - any film company, any theatre production house, any talent agency, wherever. All BHO had to do was pick up the phone. So why would they have sent her to Miramax if they knew??!!

The Obamas accepted money from tons of people. So does every politician. This is a story about corruption in Hollywood. It's not about the Obamas or the Clintons or the Democratic Party. Sorry to have to tell you.
I get what you are saying about personal knowledge of the Clinton's et al.
However, by extension, this story is not confined to Hollywood in that it occurs in every facet of society whenever power brokering and money is involved.
 

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Harvey Weinstein audio recording of harrassement of Ambra Battilana Gutierrez trying to get her into his hotel room, just leaked
She's gorgeous too!!

Whinerstein is basically a rapist, I dont see much difference between him and the act of rape itself

 

Insidious Von

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Why does everyone feel it necessary to make "a statement".

It's really none of their fucking business. I could see if politicians want to make a statement, but really, Clinton and Obama are just citizens now.Even some of the hollywood big shots like Streep et al
Some do and some don't Tiberius. Gwyneth Paltrow doesn't, as the daughter of a high powered producer, she was born with a platinum spoon in her mouth. Jessica Chastain certainly does, she started from nothing and her early career was mostly exploitative. Men of power, like Weinsein, wrote her off as looking too "old school". Had she failed Pacino's audition she may be just a waitress today.

She got a second lucky break when she did a Chekov play with Michelle Williams, the two became fast friends. Williams chose My Week With Marylin over The Help but she recommended JC for that film.

An early JC film.

 

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Every minute more and more damning information about Weinstein is released. He's done no matter what and at his age, he doesn't recover from this one.
I would hope so, but after Trump's pussygate tape was released he was still elected.
 

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If it was YOUR career that was going to be wrecked, you might hesitate for a couple of decades too. It's easy to stomp your little foot when all you have at stake is a post on TERB. The women who have come forward now are either established mega stars or out of the film business completely. And they have only stepped forward because others took the same difficult step.

Now I realize that scoring points against "lefties" and film world people on TERB is very, very important to you. But put yourself in these women's shoes for a second or two. Not only would their careers have been ruined, but everyone would have closed ranks around Weinberg and protected him. Why? - Because he is / was a major Hollywood rainmaker. You play his game or you get kicked out of Hollywood. And don't think it's going to change very much now. Weinberg may have been outed. But there are a thousand Weinbergs and the other 999 are still operating.

Personally I think that every Weinberg or Cosby who is nailed is a step forward. But play for work is as old as the hills in the entertainment world and that isn't going to change.

And none of the women named in the article ever cheered for Polanski, let alone Stalin. That belongs in your own little fantasy world.
LOL! I'm not sure who this Weinberg is, but Meryl Streep certainly did give Mr. P a standing O at the Oscars. So did the whole room to the blacklisted ones from the forties and fifties. And most of those fuckers actually were Stalinists. We can put a pretty bow on them, but they espoused what they espoused. Their "rehabilitation" in the twenty first century is nothing but revisionist history that fails to even pass a cursory inspection. The true believers, even after the show trials, the liquidation of the Comintern and the Gulag revelations. Is it really so hard to believe that in that kind of environment Weinstein could operate with impunity? I certainly don't blame the budding would be starlets, but the silence from the established ones and the media, who sat on the story, is disgusting.
 

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Yup. Of course. It's all Hillary's fault. As always. And Obama's.

You must post about Hillary 90% of the time. You are obsessed with Hillary.

While Weinstein's coarseness might have been an open secret to Hollywood insiders, it certainly wasn't public knowledge. It's impossible to imagine that the Obama's would have let their daughter intern there if they had known that W was a serial rapist and harasser. What parents would have done that?! A daughter of the president could have interned anywhere she wanted - any film company, any theatre production house, any talent agency, wherever. All BHO had to do was pick up the phone. So why would they have sent her to Miramax if they knew??!!

The Obamas accepted money from tons of people. So does every politician. This is a story about corruption in Hollywood. It's not about the Obamas or the Clintons or the Democratic Party. Sorry to have to tell you.
Actually I'm quoting a CNN article on the politicos on this one. It is now the media questioning their integrity.

Which i find amusing. Almost as much as the mad scramble from Weinstein enablers and apologists to look Good in the politicaly correct climate they helped create.

Oagre if you think this was not an open secret and the politicians didn't know then you are naive.

But reaĺly I think you know they knew as well. So stop defending them.
 

Butler1000

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Why does everyone feel it necessary to make "a statement".

It's really none of their fucking business. I could see if politicians want to make a statement, but really, Clinton and Obama are just citizens now.

Even some of the hollywood big shots like Streep et al. Unless someone asks them their opinion, they should keep their mouths shut and let this play out.

Every minute more and more damning information about Weinstein is released. He's done no matter what and at his age, he doesn't recover from this one.
Actually i dont personally. But the ones who enabled Weinstein in many cases sure have. They have added to the climate of silence is complicity argument. So now they are caught in the same trap. And their delay in comment when they haven't in other cases speaks volumes as to their real motivations.
 

mandrill

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Actually I'm quoting a CNN article on the politicos on this one. It is now the media questioning their integrity.

Which i find amusing. Almost as much as the mad scramble from Weinstein enablers and apologists to look Good in the politicaly correct climate they helped create.

Oagre if you think this was not an open secret and the politicians didn't know then you are naive.

But reaĺly I think you know they knew as well. So stop defending them.

This will go on and on. You have a vendetta against "liberals" and you will argue for page after page that "lefties" and "celebrities" and "Hillary" have a conspiracy to conceal all sorts of things. You have argued for months - without evidence - that HRC should have been jailed.

This nonsense is the reason that I no longer post on the politics page and I have no intention of having a weeks-long, never-ending debate with you in a non-politics thread about all your incessant political obsessions. So this is where it ends and you go on ignore for a few days.
 

mandrill

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Why does everyone feel it necessary to make "a statement".

It's really none of their fucking business. I could see if politicians want to make a statement, but really, Clinton and Obama are just citizens now.

Even some of the hollywood big shots like Streep et al. Unless someone asks them their opinion, they should keep their mouths shut and let this play out.

Every minute more and more damning information about Weinstein is released. He's done no matter what and at his age, he doesn't recover from this one.
Most recent add-ons - W's wife has walked and hired a big league divorce attorney. And Heather Graham has also made allegations against Weinstein. You're correct. At this point, it's so big that he is finished.
 

Butler1000

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This will go on and on. You have a vendetta against "liberals" and you will argue for page after page that "lefties" and "celebrities" and "Hillary" have a conspiracy to conceal all sorts of things. You have argued for months - without evidence - that HRC should have been jailed.

This nonsense is the reason that I no longer post on the politics page and I have no intention of having a weeks-long, never-ending debate with you in a non-politics thread about all your incessant political obsessions. So this is where it ends and you go on ignore for a few days.
Not "liberals. Heck I share some of their views.

But hypocrites? Happy to roast them.

Feel free to ignore me.
 

Butler1000

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Most recent add-ons - W's wife has walked and hired a big league divorce attorney. And Heather Graham has also made allegations against Weinstein. You're correct. At this point, it's so big that he is finished.
While im on ignore it appears his brother may be behind this.
 
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