great bear said:
But the Asian Pandas insisted they wouldn't shave for the bathing suit competition. The American bears, did as their name implies, so the Asian entrants lost by a hair.
Have you been asked what race you are by SP's
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But the Asian Pandas insisted they wouldn't shave for the bathing suit competition. The American bears, did as their name implies, so the Asian entrants lost by a hair.
Like I said, you have no clue.. .the answer was right there in the post, and was more clearly conveyed by MLAM and a few others...xdog said:
Pay for Sex is not intimacy... it is a business transaction... two actors in a movie pretending to be married, are just pretending to do so.. it's a job, a business transaction...
As far as the SP choosing who she desires as a client just like her client... again, not the same.. one is the business provider, one is the client. Two completely different ends of the bargain.... You did not read my previous post...
Quite right... everyone has a preference... so you can choose to buy from whomever you want... as a customer!!!! In your personal life you can choose to associate with whomever you prefer...originalserena said:
BIG BUT... as a service provider (a business entity) in a legal business, I do not believe that you can legally refuse to provide service to a client based on racial grounds... if you advertise the sale of widgets for $5/widget, then if a guy in a turban, koufi, hamika(?), or in loin cloths comes to your store, you cannot really refuse to sell him the product if you have it in stock...
Now, I understand that sex for money is a unique service, but to say that you only accept white clients is unacceptable... as already stated by a few members... Ugly, smelly white guy calls and gets an appointment... decent clean non-white calls and gets a NO... I don't have a problem with an SP advertising "No service for dirty, smelly guys"...
For me, bottom line, is that she can advertise what she wants and choose whomever she prefers.. but when you refuse service based only on color, then you are racist...
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Well you made things clear to me. By comparing to other things. I own a flooring company and would never dream of turning away business because of race.
It was common practice a few years back at the Fed level to advertise jobs for minorities only. I also believe that practice took place at the provincial level. The rational was that Fed and Prov employment should reflect the reality of the population. The public advertising (job openings) practice no longer takes place openly. These days its a little more subtle but hirings still take place in an attempt to reflect the reality of the population.Big Michael said:There are no Gov't jobs available only to minorities, there are no Biz loans only available to minorities, there are targets for police jobs (with a view to represent the general population). Your thinking is that of a many without any factual basis to support the thoughts. It's ironic that you brought up government jobs because that is the segment that has the least representation by visible minorities and the government, federal in particular, that has one of the worst records for discriminatory practices at the OHRC. The discriminatory practices are sytemic, which often occurs in institutions without a meritocracy. Conversely, the professions where its all about merit, is the segment with the highest visible minorities.
Its no different than the bussing strategy that took place in the USA a few years back in an attempt to integrate schools. Not sure if that practice in certain sections of the USA is still ongoing. Call it equalization or call it reverse discrimination the practice is wrong. Hirings should only take place on the merit of the candidate not the skin colour or culture of the candidate.
Neither federal or provicial government ever advertised jobs for minorities only (I used to work for the Federal government) it never was part of their officical hiring practices. Both levels of governments want to achieve a more diverse workplace that is reflective of the general population but they have not achieved the same level as the private sector. Certain jobs in both levels of government may require the ability to speak French or awareness of issues affecting the First Nations population, but that is about as discriminatory as they get. "U.S. bussing strategy the same as Canadian government hiring strategies"great bear said:
, stop before you lose any credibility you may have. The closest any Canadian government came to instituting any policies was the Rae government, but those were merely guidelines and short-lived. You entirely missed the point of my post. The facts are: visible minorities are under-represented in governments and fare best in professions, which incidentally are mostly based on merit. That's it for me on this topic. I think you have a certain set of beliefs and grasping at straws to support those ill-based thoughts, just my opinion.Lots of gov't ads have the secret code that spells out clearly that white males need not apply. They use cute PC sounding phrases like " women of colour and members of the abo community are particularly encouraged to apply" stuff like that. Sure the white English speaking male from Coldwater could apply for the job but he won't get it. He clearly would lack the skill set required as his pale skin would fail on the colour chart test.
Go ahead Big Michael and be a soft lib., PC ex civil servant but in the real taxpayer world you hire on ability not the need to fill quotas or "guidelines" as you call them.
Go ahead Big Michael and be a soft lib., PC ex civil servant but in the real taxpayer world you hire on ability not the need to fill quotas or "guidelines" as you call them.
Wonder how Big Mikey got his job with the Feds? Guidelines and quotas are not racial inspired hiring practices in his mind. Only a former civil servant would have that mind set. Hell, if inbreeding was a qualifying factor the residents of Coldwater would have more Fed job opportunities than they could handle. Can you imagine a federal department full of men and women with pointy ears and the ability to play a banjo?LancsLad said:
I think we need to rememberthe what SPs are selling is the icing that normally comes on the relationship cake.
To say an SP who makes the selections described is to say every couple you see on the street who happen to be of the same ethnic origin are racists. If as a John of an ethnicity and an SP wont see your type/race, get over it and find one that does. If we judged SPing by Human Rights legislation then it would be illegal also for an SP of either sex to refuse to accept a homosexual encounter with a client of the same sex. Is that mandatory too?all gigolos must LEGALLY suck cock cause they sell sex?blow it out you rear!
To say an SP who makes the selections described is to say every couple you see on the street who happen to be of the same ethnic origin are racists. If as a John of an ethnicity and an SP wont see your type/race, get over it and find one that does. If we judged SPing by Human Rights legislation then it would be illegal also for an SP of either sex to refuse to accept a homosexual encounter with a client of the same sex. Is that mandatory too?all gigolos must LEGALLY suck cock cause they sell sex?blow it out you rear!
great bear said:Wonder how Big Mikey got his job with the Feds? Guidelines and quotas are not racial inspired hiring practices in his mind. Only a former civil servant would have that mind set. Hell, if inbreeding was a qualifying factor the residents of Coldwater would have more Fed job opportunities than they could handle. Can you imagine a federal department full of men and women with pointy ears and the ability to play a banjo?
Only us Northern types can get the Coldwater reference, ha yup, thats theres dang funny.
Man ('scuse me - boy...) you just don't respect people at all, do you?dudeboy said:
You don't respect the job they do, but you're on an escort board??? Why on earth would you associate in any way with someone you don't respect??
Perhaps that's it - you're just here to harass and insult. I've seen you post that people are 'pathetic and sick', 'perverts', 'dumb ass', and though it seems to have been deleted, you told someone else to 'fuck off.' Quite a record considering you only have 9 posts.
Go away, little boy. This is an adult board.
You know...
....most of the time you are (in your posts) reasonably intelligent and sometime even witty - despite the fact that I probably disagree with what you are saying.
Then sometimes you post shit that is really fucking stupid.
Guess which one of those times this is right now?
LancsLad said:
....most of the time you are (in your posts) reasonably intelligent and sometime even witty - despite the fact that I probably disagree with what you are saying.
Then sometimes you post shit that is really fucking stupid.
Guess which one of those times this is right now?
KWI said:First, you are not a paying customer until you actually see and pay the women. Until then you are nothing more then a possible client. We all know how many possible clients a lady has in the day. So that washs that lame ass agruement out.
Call it racist, call it whatever you want. Bottom line if a woman doesn't want to fuck a guy for any reason be it race, regilion, age, weight, hieght, looks. That is her right. That is her choice and that is it.
You think because they suck it up with some fat/ugly/smelly guy that they should buck up with a person of a race they have prior past expereince with. Go get yourself raped and then come back to me with the agruement. Tell me how you would feel laying down with someone who reminded you of the time.
You guys can get mad all you want. Personally I think it funny the reactions that some of you are having. You are being turned down and it hurts the big ego..... BooWoo
I think women need to start being more choosy about who they see. I happen to be lucky, I do this for fun and can be choosy. If I don't want to see you because you are not "my cup of tea" then I will refuse you. It could be for any reason. For others, they need the money this job brings and therefore have to take certain clients they don't want to see.
Wow. If I really have to dumb it down for you? Yes it's obvious that they're potential clients. (sheeesh) And yes a woman can see anyone she chooses. Obviously reading it not your best attribute. Nice "argument"
MLAM said:
Not sure which of the two you mean.
I don't think my post was "fucking stupid" yet the "witty" alternative was not my intention either.
My point was that the private sector is a lot more colour blind than the civil service ever will be. Those of us out to maximize our returns employ people and use outside contractors and suppliers based on skill and price/ability to fullfill not on some colour equalization formula.
I have had personal experience with a gov't agency that when I responded to the ad i was politely told that I could apply if I wanted but they were going to be selecting a "person" of colour. being the typical white male I didn't raise a stink, I just went away mad.
I am sure that many people have similar stories so reread my post carefully, the thrust of the entry was that only governments with their unlimited cash (ours) and no realistic performance measures can hire and employ on a quotas basis to meet some PC vision of equality. The free market, myself included, hires on the basis of performance and ability, not the colour.
For me sex is an intimate act. If it wasn't I would stare at myself in a mirror while masturbating. I would agree with your analogy that a SP is similar to an actor as long as she is pretending to have sex with her client. It's not like you're buying a loaf of bread. If it was that simple a BJ would cost you $6.slowandeasy said:
Luckily for me people in this world are allowed to have different opinions and that is why I refuse to insult someone's intelligence because they happen to disagree with me. Just because I disagree with your opinion does not mean I didn't read your post.
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i agree totally with alexa. i know if the roles were reversed and i was an SP i wouldn't want (for my business' sake) to service a lady who i wasn't turned on by since that would make me provide less than stellar service and would reflect badly on me. flip that around and you've got the situation a lot of girls feel i'm sure. but in my humble opinion the race of clients issue can be brken into some pretty clear categories :Alexa Taylor said:
1) Lady doesn't like to fuck a certain race (just based on what turns her on)so she excludes them
2) Lady has relatives of that race and is afraid someone she knows will walk in (example asians not seeing asian clients)
3) she's had a traumatic experience (ie a violent client) and projects it onto other people of the same race and refuses to see them
4) based on racist stereotypes she refuses to see a certain race.
imho all of those are valid reasons except the last one, and those kind of exclusions are probably not the norm.
for example, i do number 1 all the time. I'm white and i refuse to visit a white SP because i'm more turned on by black, latin or asian.
And a good example of #4, i've had several ladies (especially asian) tell me they don't like to see black guys because they believe the stereotype about dick size and they're afraid of being sore. So more ignorance than hostile racism i think. I've only met one obviously racist sp who complained that so-and-so people are smelly, this race is rude, these guys are cheap etc etc.
hell i've been to japan where they have "no whites allowed" signs in bars, and i've been to the phillipines where a lot of the gogo bars don't let anyone in who's not lily white or asian
but what do i know, i'm white
