Welcome, Penhold! If all your posts are as helpful as this one you will be a valuable member indeed. I've been to Frankfurt many times but I've always relied on the very expensive SPs. You've convinced me that the FKK clubs are the way to go. And since I speak German fluently, even the smaller clubs should work for me. Bravo!
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REPLY - PART I
Thanks for the welcome.
If you've never been to an FKK, you will be surprised and very, very happy when you try them out. If you want to be more adventuresome, try some of the "partytreff" clubs such as Beverly in Solingen (it is highly rated and should be experienced once in your lifetime - although I doubt I would return as I found it a bit dingy). If you're into voyeurism or group situations, and especially if you can speak German and are fairly young and decent looking, you will get some interesting action at Beverly – especially on “bizarre” or “fetish” nights.
At FKKs, you pay an entrance fee of about 50 to 60 euros and, if you select a girl, a “per session” fee (typically 50 eu for 20-30 minutes of conventional sex, and an additional 50 euros or more for bbbjcim, etc. ). You will have a 100% success rate with every girl at an FKK (in theory they can refuse but in practice they won’t unless your hygiene is bad). Basically, all women are “pros” and available at the same price as the prices are standard. There is no “upselling” or negotiation of prices, other than the “set” rates for specific additional services that are made clear when you enter (and which you should ask about). You’ll even see overweight elderly German pensioners there having a good time as success with the women is guaranteed.
At a partytreff like Beverly, however, you pay only one all-inclusive entrance fee (varies by night but about 100 or 120 euros) and that’s it. All the women there (especially true at Beverly) will typically be amateurs who are there solely for a good time and their own gratification. Some partytreffs, however, hire a few pros to help stimulate the action and some other partytreffs are essentially all-pro. The price typically includes a buffet style dinner (at least it did at Beverly, although the dinner was typical buffet quality) and drinks (Beverly has soft drinks, wine and beer available). Whether you score, however, is solely up to you. If you speak German and are relatively young (under 40) and good looking, success is almost guaranteed. If you have a partner who’s into swinging, you’ll have a really good time no matter how old you are or what you look like.
If you rent a car with a GPS, not only will you find these places fairly easily (addresses are on Kaleu's site, which you can find through wsgforum) but also you can often locate and stay in small hotels outside Frankfurt for a fraction of the price of hotels in Frankfurt. Rather than rely on the internet, for hotels I rely on the many good guide books to hotels in Germany – the Michelin Red Book is one of the best and has never steered me to a sub-standard hotel (it is issued each year and also has all the prices/services available at each hotel set out so you can see the prices before even deciding whether to try them). Good clean rooms with a great breakfast are generally available for only 60 euros/night at small hotels within 20 minutes driving of most FKKs.
If you don’t have GPS, stop at one of the gas stations and buy one of the good 1:250,000 maps. Many of the FKKs are in somewhat out of the places that are difficult to find (Bernds is especially hard).
At most FKK clubs, the girls are totally nude although they also often have “dessous tag” (lingerie day) where the girls wear lingerie. The guys generally walk around with a large bath towel wrapped around their waist. To avoid answering the obvious question – yes, the girls are typically fully shaven.
The atmosphere of the premises and attitude of the girls varies from club to club. At some, the girls are allowed to approach you and ask if you want to “party”. A simple polite “not now” or “no” will get them to leave you alone if you want. Otherwise, you can spend time talking to them before deciding whether to “party”. It’s much, much easier than trying to deal with the “vanna dance” routine in Toronto strip clubs. At many clubs, the women are not allowed to approach you until after you indicate to them that you are interested (I have a “divining rod” between my legs that seems to be pretty good at popping up to indicate my level of interest!).
[END OF PART I - SEE PART II BELOW]
madmax said:Welcome, Penhold! If all your posts are as helpful as this one you will be a valuable member indeed. I've been to Frankfurt many times but I've always relied on the very expensive SPs. You've convinced me that the FKK clubs are the way to go. And since I speak German fluently, even the smaller clubs should work for me. Bravo!
Thanks for the welcome.
If you've never been to an FKK, you will be surprised and very, very happy when you try them out. If you want to be more adventuresome, try some of the "partytreff" clubs such as Beverly in Solingen (it is highly rated and should be experienced once in your lifetime - although I doubt I would return as I found it a bit dingy). If you're into voyeurism or group situations, and especially if you can speak German and are fairly young and decent looking, you will get some interesting action at Beverly – especially on “bizarre” or “fetish” nights.
At FKKs, you pay an entrance fee of about 50 to 60 euros and, if you select a girl, a “per session” fee (typically 50 eu for 20-30 minutes of conventional sex, and an additional 50 euros or more for bbbjcim, etc. ). You will have a 100% success rate with every girl at an FKK (in theory they can refuse but in practice they won’t unless your hygiene is bad). Basically, all women are “pros” and available at the same price as the prices are standard. There is no “upselling” or negotiation of prices, other than the “set” rates for specific additional services that are made clear when you enter (and which you should ask about). You’ll even see overweight elderly German pensioners there having a good time as success with the women is guaranteed.
At a partytreff like Beverly, however, you pay only one all-inclusive entrance fee (varies by night but about 100 or 120 euros) and that’s it. All the women there (especially true at Beverly) will typically be amateurs who are there solely for a good time and their own gratification. Some partytreffs, however, hire a few pros to help stimulate the action and some other partytreffs are essentially all-pro. The price typically includes a buffet style dinner (at least it did at Beverly, although the dinner was typical buffet quality) and drinks (Beverly has soft drinks, wine and beer available). Whether you score, however, is solely up to you. If you speak German and are relatively young (under 40) and good looking, success is almost guaranteed. If you have a partner who’s into swinging, you’ll have a really good time no matter how old you are or what you look like.
If you rent a car with a GPS, not only will you find these places fairly easily (addresses are on Kaleu's site, which you can find through wsgforum) but also you can often locate and stay in small hotels outside Frankfurt for a fraction of the price of hotels in Frankfurt. Rather than rely on the internet, for hotels I rely on the many good guide books to hotels in Germany – the Michelin Red Book is one of the best and has never steered me to a sub-standard hotel (it is issued each year and also has all the prices/services available at each hotel set out so you can see the prices before even deciding whether to try them). Good clean rooms with a great breakfast are generally available for only 60 euros/night at small hotels within 20 minutes driving of most FKKs.
If you don’t have GPS, stop at one of the gas stations and buy one of the good 1:250,000 maps. Many of the FKKs are in somewhat out of the places that are difficult to find (Bernds is especially hard).
At most FKK clubs, the girls are totally nude although they also often have “dessous tag” (lingerie day) where the girls wear lingerie. The guys generally walk around with a large bath towel wrapped around their waist. To avoid answering the obvious question – yes, the girls are typically fully shaven.
The atmosphere of the premises and attitude of the girls varies from club to club. At some, the girls are allowed to approach you and ask if you want to “party”. A simple polite “not now” or “no” will get them to leave you alone if you want. Otherwise, you can spend time talking to them before deciding whether to “party”. It’s much, much easier than trying to deal with the “vanna dance” routine in Toronto strip clubs. At many clubs, the women are not allowed to approach you until after you indicate to them that you are interested (I have a “divining rod” between my legs that seems to be pretty good at popping up to indicate my level of interest!).
[END OF PART I - SEE PART II BELOW]
PART II re FKK Clubs:
If you go, here's some tips.
When arriving, tell them you haven’t been there before. Ask how many girls are there (if too few, go elsewhere and come back later). The person at the entrance typically speaks English or will get someone who can to describe how the club works. They will explain the pricing, and what is included and what costs extra. Pay attention to this and whether you pay the girl immediately after the session, or whether they keep track and you pay as you leave. Often, they will have a girl show you around the place. If you decide to stay, you pay the entrance fee and they put a wristband on you that you have to keep and give back to them when you leave (type of band varies by club).
They have a locker room, where you store your clothes, and a collection of “safety boxes” (typically located near the bar) where you store your valuables. You’ll have 2 keys, one for your clothes locker and one for your valuables.
After showering, you wrap a towel around your waist. You should start with a “walk through” and make a mental note of the women available, what they are doing and how friendly they appear. Then, head to the bar area and order a softdrink or whatever and wait for an hour or so because in addition to the women you see when you walk around, many women will be “in session” and you want to see them as well before you decide. Since the valuable lockers are near the bar, you will be able to see them as they accompany their male guests to them to get paid. Also, it gives you an opportunity to talk to the other mongers at the bar and ask who’s hot and who’s not (information is readily shared).
Once you see someone you’re interested in, do not hesitate to approach or wave her over. Otherwise, someone else may pick them up and you’ll have to wait until they’re available again (and they may not come back if it's their last session). Once you get together see how “friendly” they are with you in public before agreeing to go to a room. If very friendly with public displays of affection (includes DFK and, at times, even BBBJ while on the couch) you’ll have a good time in the room. General rule is once their lips are on your member in public you're committed to a session (so don't let them get "too friendly" unless you really want to go with them). If they want to rush off to the room right away this is often a sign service won't be great.
[continued in Part III]
If you go, here's some tips.
When arriving, tell them you haven’t been there before. Ask how many girls are there (if too few, go elsewhere and come back later). The person at the entrance typically speaks English or will get someone who can to describe how the club works. They will explain the pricing, and what is included and what costs extra. Pay attention to this and whether you pay the girl immediately after the session, or whether they keep track and you pay as you leave. Often, they will have a girl show you around the place. If you decide to stay, you pay the entrance fee and they put a wristband on you that you have to keep and give back to them when you leave (type of band varies by club).
They have a locker room, where you store your clothes, and a collection of “safety boxes” (typically located near the bar) where you store your valuables. You’ll have 2 keys, one for your clothes locker and one for your valuables.
After showering, you wrap a towel around your waist. You should start with a “walk through” and make a mental note of the women available, what they are doing and how friendly they appear. Then, head to the bar area and order a softdrink or whatever and wait for an hour or so because in addition to the women you see when you walk around, many women will be “in session” and you want to see them as well before you decide. Since the valuable lockers are near the bar, you will be able to see them as they accompany their male guests to them to get paid. Also, it gives you an opportunity to talk to the other mongers at the bar and ask who’s hot and who’s not (information is readily shared).
Once you see someone you’re interested in, do not hesitate to approach or wave her over. Otherwise, someone else may pick them up and you’ll have to wait until they’re available again (and they may not come back if it's their last session). Once you get together see how “friendly” they are with you in public before agreeing to go to a room. If very friendly with public displays of affection (includes DFK and, at times, even BBBJ while on the couch) you’ll have a good time in the room. General rule is once their lips are on your member in public you're committed to a session (so don't let them get "too friendly" unless you really want to go with them). If they want to rush off to the room right away this is often a sign service won't be great.
[continued in Part III]
[Part III - FKK Clubs continued]
When you enter ask whether the club has “in/out” privileges. At Oase, if you go in the afternoon and want to meet business colleagues for dinner (or take a nap), tell them before surrendering your wristband. They will keep it with your name noted (first name only) and you will get it back and can re-enter without paying again on the same day. Simply fu*king marvellous! Especially if you use the dinner break to take a quick trip to another FKK to check out the action and see if the selection of girls is any better!!!!
Given the proximity of one club to another (if you have a car with GPS), I recommend trying a few clubs each day. If, after entering, you don’t see anyone who attracts your interest ask if they’re expecting more girls later. If not, cut your losses with the entrance fee and leave since the quantity and selection may be much better only ½ hour to 1 hour away!
Many clubs are not just a great place for viewing beautiful naked women and having great sex, but most also have decent areas in which to simply lay back and relax, or take a swim in a pool, sit in a whirlpool or have a sauna. For such activities FKK World, FKK Oase and Fantasyland Gorgeshausen (and Atlantis when it was open) are all great. Bernds is a different, smaller and more intimate club that has a charm all to its own but still has a small pool and sauna.
I could go on, but space here is too d*mn limited (I had to keep splitting the message and then going back and editing out information to get the message to fit within the maximum limits).
The long and short of it is you will find great experiences at reasonable prices at FKKs with no shortage of attractive women (typically 8s to 9s at larger clubs). After an entrance fee of 60 euros and a per standard session price of 50-60 euros, if you have 3 sessions over a relaxing 4 hour stay it averages 80 euros per session (less than $140 CDN)!
You'll find everything you need to know at Kaleu’s site and on wsgforum. If not, try emailing me at penhold@hushmail.com and I’ll try to respond within my comfort margin and available time.
I will be in Toronto at the end of the month and was checking TERB for the best lapdance stripclubs and for highest rated escorts. I will have a car and likely will also check out clubs in Niagara Falls. Help separating the wheat from the chaff on this board and receiving solid recommendations would be appreciated (preference is mid 20's to mid 30's slim - not anorexic - fit young women with beautiful faces - natural breasts preferred, any size ). If so, please pm me or send a message to penhold@wsgforum.com.
Penhold
When you enter ask whether the club has “in/out” privileges. At Oase, if you go in the afternoon and want to meet business colleagues for dinner (or take a nap), tell them before surrendering your wristband. They will keep it with your name noted (first name only) and you will get it back and can re-enter without paying again on the same day. Simply fu*king marvellous! Especially if you use the dinner break to take a quick trip to another FKK to check out the action and see if the selection of girls is any better!!!!
Given the proximity of one club to another (if you have a car with GPS), I recommend trying a few clubs each day. If, after entering, you don’t see anyone who attracts your interest ask if they’re expecting more girls later. If not, cut your losses with the entrance fee and leave since the quantity and selection may be much better only ½ hour to 1 hour away!
Many clubs are not just a great place for viewing beautiful naked women and having great sex, but most also have decent areas in which to simply lay back and relax, or take a swim in a pool, sit in a whirlpool or have a sauna. For such activities FKK World, FKK Oase and Fantasyland Gorgeshausen (and Atlantis when it was open) are all great. Bernds is a different, smaller and more intimate club that has a charm all to its own but still has a small pool and sauna.
I could go on, but space here is too d*mn limited (I had to keep splitting the message and then going back and editing out information to get the message to fit within the maximum limits).
The long and short of it is you will find great experiences at reasonable prices at FKKs with no shortage of attractive women (typically 8s to 9s at larger clubs). After an entrance fee of 60 euros and a per standard session price of 50-60 euros, if you have 3 sessions over a relaxing 4 hour stay it averages 80 euros per session (less than $140 CDN)!
You'll find everything you need to know at Kaleu’s site and on wsgforum. If not, try emailing me at penhold@hushmail.com and I’ll try to respond within my comfort margin and available time.
I will be in Toronto at the end of the month and was checking TERB for the best lapdance stripclubs and for highest rated escorts. I will have a car and likely will also check out clubs in Niagara Falls. Help separating the wheat from the chaff on this board and receiving solid recommendations would be appreciated (preference is mid 20's to mid 30's slim - not anorexic - fit young women with beautiful faces - natural breasts preferred, any size ). If so, please pm me or send a message to penhold@wsgforum.com.
Penhold
Depending on age requirements, you might want to check out Sina at http://www.sina36.com/
She is probably late 30's but is very fit and great fun. If you are interested and want to know more, you can contact me.
She is probably late 30's but is very fit and great fun. If you are interested and want to know more, you can contact me.
penhold, you are the man...with great info and advice...it almost sounds like you own these fkk's...that s what i call a contributor to these terb info...thanks man.
Looking for some advises on my summer UK/Germany trip. When I was in Germany a couple of months ago, I wanted to try Target but timing did not work out. I don't mind the high price as long as you get what was advertised for. Anyone has some experience with them? When I looked at their web site a couple of months back, their faces were not blurred at all. Men, they were hot! Anyone has any experiences with them??? Thx.
http://targetescorts.com/escort-services.htm
http://targetescorts.com/escort-services.htm
Many of the Target escorts are reviewed on the London (UK) site Captain69, almost all of them with very high marks. No indication of anyone getting anything less than what was advertised, and as always with German escorts anal is very often included in the basic service package. Let us know if you try any of these girls. We need to expand our international coverage. Good luck!
Will do. Hopefully, timing will work out this time. Speaking about more non domestic coverage, here is one on Asian Massage in NY I just posted:
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=86323
Thx.
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=86323
Thx.
