nobody should support terrorism which include hamas, hezbulla and of course the obious israelis. If you support israel you support terrorism as well, don't judge by someone's religion, judge them by their actions. Most of you are bias or just plain stupid, for the stupid one's there's no doubht in my mind you'll remain that way.
Hezbollah and Hamas....
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Again, it is VERY obvious you have not been through our legal systemMarkJfr said:Check again, Read the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the Constitution.
An accused is presumed innocent until the state proves that they are guilty of an offense under the laws of Canada and international laws
Are you sure your not living in Colombia?
I have been, I have seen firsthand how our justice system works. I have been arrested, detained and had certain freedoms stripped from me for an extended period of time... yes, I was guilty, in the eyes of the Crown, until I had proven my innocence.
At least in Colombia, I could have bribed an official and dealt with things in a much more timely manor.
Islam is a religionKathleen said:How do you call other people racist, then condem all those Islamic yourself?
In some posts, you seem open to diversity, opposed to hate. But then you pick and choose entire groups as being ok or bad.
Confusing.
I doubt anyone is denying a countries right to exist unless it is Isreal. Then many here deny the right for it to exist.
Mark, Palestinians kill themselves all the time. They're called suicide bombers for that reason. Young impressionable Palestinians are brainwashed into commiting these acts. What UN and indepeandant reports are you referring to? Should I just read today's copy of al-arabia?
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KAthleen..Who says???? pleeeassseee??
Who says Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorists you ask? Indignantly suggesting that they may be not and the news is not to be believed.
Who says Israel is bombing Lebanon..The News? C'mon
This is all fake. Just like the man on the moon was fake!! Use common sense Dear!!!!!
Kathleen..you say you know jack shit...I tend to agree. Like a newscaster is supposed to do...and you should...FIND OUT girl..before basing your opinion on 'jack shit'
Who says Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorists you ask? Indignantly suggesting that they may be not and the news is not to be believed.
Who says Israel is bombing Lebanon..The News? C'mon
This is all fake. Just like the man on the moon was fake!! Use common sense Dear!!!!!
Kathleen..you say you know jack shit...I tend to agree. Like a newscaster is supposed to do...and you should...FIND OUT girl..before basing your opinion on 'jack shit'
And Another Question....
Your sitting in Israel....minding your own business.....as a large Terrorist Organization builds on your northern border...unchecked by the Lebanese government or Army. Suddenly, like before this group lobs missles into your country, Misslies built by Iran and Syria. The arch enemies of Israel....Dozens and Dozens of them over the years.....The Terrorist groups continue to amass more equipment and manpower on your border and suddenly send in a high volume barrage of missiles...In anyones books an Act of War...
Your the Prime Minister of Israel.....What do you do???????
Your sitting in Israel....minding your own business.....as a large Terrorist Organization builds on your northern border...unchecked by the Lebanese government or Army. Suddenly, like before this group lobs missles into your country, Misslies built by Iran and Syria. The arch enemies of Israel....Dozens and Dozens of them over the years.....The Terrorist groups continue to amass more equipment and manpower on your border and suddenly send in a high volume barrage of missiles...In anyones books an Act of War...
Your the Prime Minister of Israel.....What do you do???????
Kill them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Blake659 said:Your sitting in Israel....minding your own business.....as a large Terrorist Organization builds on your northern border...unchecked by the Lebanese government or Army. Suddenly, like before this group lobs missles into your country, Misslies built by Iran and Syria. The arch enemies of Israel....Dozens and Dozens of them over the years.....The Terrorist groups continue to amass more equipment and manpower on your border and suddenly send in a high volume barrage of missiles...In anyones books an Act of War...
Your the Prime Minister of Israel.....What do you do???????
No, just kidding. I would poke their eyes out. "AN EYE FOR AN EYE"
How can you call Israelis terrorists? They have a democratically voted government. Oh I guess that doesn't mean Jack Shit as we suffered under a democratically voted dictatorship regime of the lieberals for over 12 years.Lustology said:nobody should support terrorism which include hamas, hezbulla and of course the obious israelis. If you support israel you support terrorism as well, don't judge by someone's religion, judge them by their actions. Most of you are bias or just plain stupid, for the stupid one's there's no doubht in my mind you'll remain that way.
I felt like I was terrorized by the creatin Mean Jean, so does that make him a terrorist?
Taking out Hezbollah would require ground forces.... I can't see any country (much less Lebanon) giving Israel to authority to move ground forces into their borders.. Imagine if the US decided to go after terrorists in Toronto by driving their tanks up the QEW from Niagara, and bringing in a few warships to the harbourfront...revolution said:In fact, it's a shame that the Christian Lebanese population has to suffer because of Hezbollah. All Lebanese Christians hate Hezbollah and are glad Israel is taking them out, they're just not happy about their country being bombed. If Israel could somehow manage to completely dismantle Hezbollah and take them and only them out, the Lebanese Christians would be celebrating on the streets, unfortunately it's not that easy and innocent people are dying, but this whole thing started when Hezbollah waged war on Israel by going into their borders and kidnapping 2 soldiers.
You are pretty correct that the Christian Lebanese despise Hezbollah... but as I am writing this, I realize that you don't mention that there are alot of muslim Lebanese who also despise Hezbollah......
Don't fool yourself... this whole thing did not start because Hezbollah kidnapped two Israeli Soldiers.... Israel was just waiting for a reason to take it to Hezbollah and Syria after that... If it was not the kidnappings, it was going to be something else... I was waiting for them to use an excuse like "Hezbollah farted in our direction so we had to take them out"...
Good points kkarn.. and bang on..... the sad part about all this is that the poeple doing the killing on either side don't give a fuck about the innocent victims.... it makes me sick and angry....kkarn said:I fear with the 80% support Israelis are giving towards this offensive (which is typically <50%) they could soon embark on the "parking lot" concept. This unfortunately would be to the joy of the extremists who have been waiting a lifetime to provoke a massacre of their own people for thier own agenda. If Israel was waiting for a reason to take down Hezbollah, the extremists were even more anxious for their own people to be caught up in it as dead bodies shown on CNN and dead babies in propaganda material spread over the net. The whole fuckin' thing makes me sick.
I don't believe that Israel is happy at all that for every Israeli killed in this dispute their are ten Lebanese. However, I do believe that Hezbollah is tickled Pink to hear the reports of the 30:300 ratio on CNN.
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It would be nice if the world recognized Taiwan as a Nation.
Sadly the world is full of cowards.
Sadly the world is full of cowards.
The indignancy does no one any good.
We are talking about Hezbollah as if they exist. Assume they do.
They are amassing on your north border. Ie Lets say they are in Toronto..ready to cross the Lake.
Steven HArper does nothing to deal with it.....And they continue to get their weapon supplies stashed at Toronto harbour. In fact, weapons arrive daily in Toronto from Iran.....
I would welcome the Americans in to deal with them if Harper did nothing....
So much easier to criticize a war when its not in your back yard.
If the same were going on in Canada, the Kathleens of the world would be all over HArper to get rid of Hezbollah and pronto!!!!!
We are talking about Hezbollah as if they exist. Assume they do.
They are amassing on your north border. Ie Lets say they are in Toronto..ready to cross the Lake.
Steven HArper does nothing to deal with it.....And they continue to get their weapon supplies stashed at Toronto harbour. In fact, weapons arrive daily in Toronto from Iran.....
I would welcome the Americans in to deal with them if Harper did nothing....
So much easier to criticize a war when its not in your back yard.
If the same were going on in Canada, the Kathleens of the world would be all over HArper to get rid of Hezbollah and pronto!!!!!
(Posted by Kathleen)
"The only thing I hear Hezbolla doing that is terrorist, is using civilians around their military targets. But can they be faulted? These are extremists against huge odds."
Kathleen.
The Geneva convention forbids the use of civilians in such a way.
And to say 'They are extremists against huge odd"....
Man quit pulling for the little guy.
Thank God, Allah, whoever, that extremists are against huge odds. ..And pray that those odds get bigger..... Because if extremists get any foothold...you I and everyone else need not woory about tomorrow.
Every counbtry has a right to protect themselves and have an army. Lebanon does as well. But the militia that is the Hezbollah is sanctioned by no one....they were not forced to get involved in anything...and certainly they were not forced to lob missiles into Israel.
Its like saying..."I lit the fuse...But really, I am not responsible for the explosion". Hezbollah gets what it deserved and went looking for!!!
"The only thing I hear Hezbolla doing that is terrorist, is using civilians around their military targets. But can they be faulted? These are extremists against huge odds."
Kathleen.
The Geneva convention forbids the use of civilians in such a way.
And to say 'They are extremists against huge odd"....
Man quit pulling for the little guy.
Thank God, Allah, whoever, that extremists are against huge odds. ..And pray that those odds get bigger..... Because if extremists get any foothold...you I and everyone else need not woory about tomorrow.
Every counbtry has a right to protect themselves and have an army. Lebanon does as well. But the militia that is the Hezbollah is sanctioned by no one....they were not forced to get involved in anything...and certainly they were not forced to lob missiles into Israel.
Its like saying..."I lit the fuse...But really, I am not responsible for the explosion". Hezbollah gets what it deserved and went looking for!!!
Hezbollah and most terror factions other than Al Qaeda have no interest here other than to raise funds for furthering more death back home, Not just radical Muslims, add similarly homicidal Tamils and Sihks to the motley crew of scum.
Until the recent terror plots have been revealed I was skeptical this country was willing to raise a finger on domestic hate groups.
Until the recent terror plots have been revealed I was skeptical this country was willing to raise a finger on domestic hate groups.
Yes
The predictable..."withdraw from the fire fight routine"..because the fires a little too hot.
Nothing good about War...And Im all for preventing it to. But there are cases where you get trampled upon if you don't go to war and it is inevitable and unpreventable....
First world war started over a Kidnapping....Thats it.....
remember....Lighting the fuse.
And your right its not in the WEST...but it is in the east and must be dealt with............
The predictable..."withdraw from the fire fight routine"..because the fires a little too hot.
Nothing good about War...And Im all for preventing it to. But there are cases where you get trampled upon if you don't go to war and it is inevitable and unpreventable....
First world war started over a Kidnapping....Thats it.....
remember....Lighting the fuse.
And your right its not in the WEST...but it is in the east and must be dealt with............
The Activities of the Hezbollah
Executed the 1983 suicide attack on the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut, killing 241 U.S. Marines and 58 French paratroopers
Responsible for the October 1983 truck bombing of the US Embassy that killed 17
Car-bombed the U.S. Embassy annex on September 20, 1984 in east Beirut killing 16 and injuring the ambassador
Elements of the group were responsible for the kidnapping and detention of U.S. and other Western hostages in Lebanon throughout the 1980s
Splinter group of Hezbollah is suspected in the March 1992 destruction of Israel's embassy in Argentina; also suspected in 1994 bombing of a Jewish community center in Buenos Aries killing 100
Captured and held three Israeli soldiers in the Shabaa Farms in October 2000; Israel's government said on November 2, 2001 that it believes that the soldiers have been killed
Executed the 1983 suicide attack on the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut, killing 241 U.S. Marines and 58 French paratroopers
Responsible for the October 1983 truck bombing of the US Embassy that killed 17
Car-bombed the U.S. Embassy annex on September 20, 1984 in east Beirut killing 16 and injuring the ambassador
Elements of the group were responsible for the kidnapping and detention of U.S. and other Western hostages in Lebanon throughout the 1980s
Splinter group of Hezbollah is suspected in the March 1992 destruction of Israel's embassy in Argentina; also suspected in 1994 bombing of a Jewish community center in Buenos Aries killing 100
Captured and held three Israeli soldiers in the Shabaa Farms in October 2000; Israel's government said on November 2, 2001 that it believes that the soldiers have been killed
Not that I disagree entirely but even Kofi admits it wouldn't have happened (for now) unless Hezbollah gave some kind of justification.slowandeasy said:...
Don't fool yourself... this whole thing did not start because Hezbollah kidnapped two Israeli Soldiers.... Israel was just waiting for a reason to take it to Hezbollah and Syria after that... If it was not the kidnappings, it was going to be something else... I was waiting for them to use an excuse like "Hezbollah farted in our direction so we had to take them out"...
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/20/mideast.diplomacy/index.html/The secretary-general blamed Hezbollah for triggering the crisis and accused it of holding Lebanon hostage with its campaign against Israel.
and for those who like to see balance (like cyrus and mark)
"Both the deliberate targeting by Hezbollah of Israeli population centers with hundreds of indiscriminate weapons and Israel's disproportionate use of force and collective punishment of the Lebanese people must stop," Annan said.
I'm not a supporter of Hezbollah or Hamas, or any group using terror and targeting the civilian population. That's why I'm not a supporter or Israel either. Israel should not be indiscriminently firing rockets into civilian neighbourhoods in Lebanon.
I'm ashamed and appalled at our Canadian government and media at large because of the lack of concern in this matter, even as vacationing Canadians have been killed by Israel rockets. There should be a higher palpable level of outrage in this country.
It's sad, but the only thing I can think is that Jewish influence and finance has Canadian leaders afraid to criticize Israel's actions.
If Israel is a righteous nation, then prove so by not stooping to the same level as the terrorists they fight. Don't kill innocent civilians. Israel will get more sympathy if they didn't retaliate in such a fashion.
I'm ashamed and appalled at our Canadian government and media at large because of the lack of concern in this matter, even as vacationing Canadians have been killed by Israel rockets. There should be a higher palpable level of outrage in this country.
It's sad, but the only thing I can think is that Jewish influence and finance has Canadian leaders afraid to criticize Israel's actions.
If Israel is a righteous nation, then prove so by not stooping to the same level as the terrorists they fight. Don't kill innocent civilians. Israel will get more sympathy if they didn't retaliate in such a fashion.
Only a protege of cyrus would believe that.Jimi Wasabi said:...
It's sad, but the only thing I can think is that Jewish influence and finance has Canadian leaders afraid to criticize Israel's actions....
It's more about politics (and the US) than fear.
