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Horror stories: Let's share

Sinistar

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Hello all,

Since this is my first post, figured I'd start it off with some story swapping.

My g/f started dancing at a club in town here a few months ago and its definitely generated quite a bit of friction between the 2 of us. SHe's a sweetie but she's young and impressionable and I can already start to see her change.

I find it hard to believe that I'm alone in this.

Basically, I'm just looking to hear some horror stories from boyfriends/husbands who have girlfriends/wives working in the sex industry (I'm sure there's a few lurkers about on this board), and even some stories from clients who have had to deal with boyfriends and such.

Anyone feel like sharing? I've got a few but I'm not really sure what kind of a reaction I'm going to get here from this post so I think I'll hold off and see what everyone has to say.
 

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True confessions.

I had a conversation with an SP recently and she was telling me how hard (or brutal) it was to maintain a conventional relationship. It's safe to assume that she kept her work a secret. Before and after every shift, she would try and avoid her boyfriend as much as possible. Because eventually, he would want to have sex and she just……well…..couldn’t (for emotional and/or perhaps physical reasons). Fortunately, it was easier to avoid him since they weren’t living together. Another good thing was that, none of her boyfriends (she only had one at a time) ever had cars so, the situation where the guy offers to pick her up after work never arose. Yet, the boyfriend always wondered how come she would always have money while still going school and working very little.
 
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Sinistar

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Re: No story just an observation..

Mystique>Misty said:
Sinister ...... Why would you assume that anyone in the same or similar situation as yours has a horror story to tell ....??
Well, to be honest, I've yet to hear of a positive outcome apart from your story. There's no shortage of horror stories though. Its not the girl I have a problem with; its the job and what its doing to her.

Maybe I'm just being a masochist.
 

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Re: Re: No story just an observation..

Sinistar said:


Well, to be honest, I've yet to hear of a positive outcome apart from your story. There's no shortage of horror stories though. Its not the girl I have a problem with; its the job and what its doing to her.
So working at a SC or MP or working as an SP are the only jobs that can change a person? C'mon Sinistar - people change no matter where they work. Are you sure it's only your girlfriend that's changing and not you too?

In past we've seen several examples here on TERB of people who have happily made it through relationships where one partner is involved in the biz. And admittedly, we've seen examples where the opposite it true too.
 

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As much as I hate to generalize, I tend to agree with the general sediments that those that are involved in this industry are in some shape or form 'psycologically/emotionally damaged'. While they may be successful in business and can raise a beautiful family - I doubt they are capable of a long term healthy relationship. Anyone who claims that they can walk away from being an MPA, Escort or Stripper and not let it affect they way they interact with men is in denial. Having said that, there are alot of other more conventional professions that can have this profound effect.
 

The Baroness

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Yes,it can change a woman................IF SHE LETS IT!

If you go into the biz:

a)of your own free will
b)with a goals/goals in mind
c)knowing that by being an SP,you are leaving mainstream society whether you like it or not,and will be looked at and/or judged by what you do.............and are ok with that or at least can deal with it
d)have enough of a brain to know that men will say anything when horny/in the throes of passion and that 10 minutes later will walk away without a backward glance( and realize this isnt a rejection of you)
e)to be ok with having sex for money-not just saying it-but to really be ok with it

Not many can do this-i certainly couldnt check off a-e when I started...........however if you are a strong woman,yes you can make it through without becoming a loon.

Do many??
I dont know....I'm still smashing 200 dollar bottles of booze:)
 

twisted troll

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ahem!

Well, I'm just waiting around to hear some juicy tragic horror stories.
 

Snook.fr

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I think Miranda has said it perfectly....it is NOT the job, but the ABILITY of the person to REACT to THREATS.
You are Strong or you are Weak....Wether you are in the Sex industry or not, you are exposed to people that will try to manipulate.

Frenchy
 

Niagara_Man

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Several years ago I met a wonderful woman at a summer bbq hosted by mutual friends in the Niagara region. We seemed to "hit it off" immediately and quickly discovered that we had similar interests, world views and belief systems. She told me that she was a visual artist and later showed my some of her fine oil paintings and some newer multimedia creations.

We began to date, and I'll never forget the day two months into our relationship when this woman's 3-year-old daughter ran up to me, gave me a big sloppy kiss and said, "dada?" To be blunt, I think all 3 of us were happy and at least thinking of a long-term future together.

But I was from the start a bit troubled by some of the inconsistencies I noticed in this woman's life: she owned a large house (a converted church) and paid a hefty mortgage, yet claimed to have as a source of income Canada Student Loans and a part-time job waitressing at a local eatery. Her hours were highly irregular, and sometimes she even called me out of the blue to see if I could babysit for a few hours in the evening. Her excuses were usually convoluted but didn't strike me as too unreasonable or unbelievable.

And then one day something shocking happened: this woman called me at work and asked if I would be kind enough to retrieve her daughter from a local child care centre at 4:30 -- all of the necessary calls had been made so that I could get the child without hassle. I agreed . . .

At the child care centre, one of the early childhood educators brought the little darling to me, asked to see my I.D., and then checked a clipboard to ensure that I was an 'approved" person to leave with the child. And then she frowned and said, "I guess (I won't use a real name here) is dancing again? I haven't seen you before." Turns out the "list" of eligible people to pick up this woman's daughter included more men than a SkyDome men's room during 2-for-1 beer day. And it gets worse: I pressed for details on the "dancing again" reference but got nowhere with the centre attendant, but did get much further with several parents who were picking up their kids. Seems most of them knew what the mother of this little tyke did for a living and forbade their own children from even associating with the little angel I had been sent to retrieve!

I was in denial and refused to believe that I could be lied to in this way. An artist? A student? A waitress? Hardly. At the end of that long day I had, through my own devices, discovered that this woman was not simply a dancer at a local SC but that the particular SC had a well-known reputation as "something more." The next day. when I was certain that the woman was indeed home and not working, I entered the SC for the first time, chatted with the barkeep and several staff members, and soon had all of my most horrible dreams confirmed.

So, as a man who has been through this situation, please indulge me for a moment while i make just a few personal observations that are in no way inteded to offend and SPs who read this board. First of all, the fundamental problem I experienced was dishonesty. I was lied to and manipulated by an individual who earned a living manipulating men. I was utterly overmatched in this department and had no capacity to "see through" the lies and manipulation when they were spun by an expert. Secondly, to this day I remain less shocked and hurt by the dishonesty than by the ease with which this woman, even indirectly, exposed her pre-school daughter to the industry. Clearly, my intitial observations were incorrect: we did not share a common world view nor did we share similar belief systems. I left the relationship immediately and haven't looked back since.

As they say in the world of 12-step programs, "thanks for listening . . . "
 

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At the risk of sounding contrite my initial reaction to your story was that she had good reason not to tell you what she did given your reaction Niagara Man .

It's all pretty complicated isn't it .

I would think it would be pretty difficult not to work in this industry for a long time without creating emotional barriers and having your opinion of men diminished . Normally one can avoid the a**holes fairly easily - but in this industry you can't so easily and that has to eventually colour your outlook .
How do you reverse that when you quit ?

Still things could have been worse......she could have been a lawyer . ( Just kidding to all you legal eagles out there.....well sorta ...lol )
 

Niagara_Man

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Perhaps I view the issue(s) from a simplistic point of view, but "judge the behaviour, not the person" is a general guide I have found useful in these complex times in which we live, Jordan. With this in mind, the "behaviour" I have outlined may very well be the result of any or all the possible explanations you suggest -- everything from being extremely "open" (and subsequently burned) about her profession to old-fashioned "cluelessness." Yet, I cannot help but think that a more viable and realistic 3rd option exists: this woman lived a day-to-day work life where "success" is derived through a variety of cultivated manipulative practises and ultimately measured by one's ability to "get what you want," be it money, status, self-esteem (I usually detest that word!) or any other type of self-interest.

When push came to shove, I was treated like a client, and I suspect that this particular woman could not distinguish between a powerfully ingrained 'work ethos' from the time-tested patterns of human interaction that provide long-lasting satisfaction. In short, she knew but one way to behave and that way had no currency outside of the business.

And then again, I could be 100% wrong!
 

stahlmann

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Horror stories let's share

Anya, hmm - My German is not so good, but: "Against folly, Gods even fight in vain" ??? Did I get that right ?

Well, my 2 cents worth, I am right now somewhat involved with an SP, and I have to say: overall it is positve, even though we have our differences. I know that she is with others, - that it is not really good for her mind, and so on. I am happy that I have this relationship, as it does bring me ( and I hope her ) some happiness, even though we both know it has little or no long-term durability. Life is short, and I enjoy her company, so - no negative comments from me. I would encourage others to take care, but also not to miss opportunities for a connection with someone, whatever she does for a living. Nobody is perfect.




Stahlmann
 

Niagara_Man

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At the risk of sounding contrite my initial reaction to your story was that she had good reason not to tell you what she did given your reaction Niagara Man .

Niagara Man- I sympathize with you- but as you said yourself- you had a lot of clues, and perhaps should have realized something was up a bit sooner?? But then, in a relationship, we always try hard to maintain it- it's only natural.


I completely agree with the sentiments expressed by Train and SweetDiane, with one caveat: any sympathy needs to be reserved for a 3-year-old child denied respect and playmates because of a fully-grown adult's actions.

Has anyone checked out the similar/concurrent thread brought to our attention by MidLifeCrisis? Some of the postings are compelling.
 

Casa_Nova

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Anything can happen.

Yes, the general thought is that a relationship with a SP is doomed from the beginning. And yes, anyone who decides to get involved with a SP should prepare for some hardship...but then again, isn't that true with all relationships?

It's hard because paying money for sex is not what society would view as a "normal" practice, and hence we're socialize to think that it's wrong. It's also not "normal" for people in relationships to "sleep around", and put the 2 and 2 together, and you have the fundamental root of problem in relationships with SP's.

I had the pleasure of meeting Miranda a few days ago (Sorry Miranda, you said no reviews-but this isn't really a review), and I find a lot of what she said to be true. So society views this practice to not be normal, so how do we deal with it? I love what Miranda said...to be in this business you kinda have to "remove" yourself from the norm. Reason why I keep mentioning Miranda is that she's retiring, and she told me that she planned to go back to school. Yes a lot of SP's are in this business for money, and I guess how each turns out will depend on whether or not they have a plan and whether they can stick to the plan. A lot of them say that they're in a for 2-3 yrs, save some money and move on...but then the money is good, and the lifestyle (the ability to spend the money) is good, and so it becomes too much a part of them...and most often this is what ruins them. I'm not sure how long Miranda have been in this business, but it looks like she had a plan and now she's following it. I guess I can say that she is "reasserting" herself to the "normal" society?

I think if you're going to be involved with a SP, you first have to be able to accept what they do. Yes they'll be intimate with other people aside from you-but there must be enough trust and that you believe that it's only a "job". Most importantly you need to make sure there's a plan and that this is not something they plan to do forever...I'll go out on a limb and say that it's impossible to be in this business and not have it change you in some ways. Prolong time period where you have to at times deny your emotions, and to be intimate with people that you don't want to will change u. Thinking that you have endless supply of money to spend cause you can bring in X amount of dollars will change you.

The sad part is that a lot of the girls now start so young and either gets too jaded easily, or simply have no goal and will end up really hating the job and probably themselves sooner than later...those are the girls that you have to think about before getting involved.

Yes I'm sure there're numerous horror stories...but I'm sure there're also numerous success stories. I guess the key is-like any relationship,-communication, understanding, honesty acceptance etc...
 

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It wasn't sex work, Niagra Man!

Niagra, my sympathies for your disappointment. However it does need to be pointed out that (as you've described it) the problem was not with your ladyfriends job, but with the fact that you had been lied to. In any relationship, truth is one of the foundations, but it does seem that in one with a sex worker, knowledge of what she does for a living would be a pre-requisite, and that's more a function of the hippocritical way in which society treats sex workers more than anything.
 

AnonSP

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A relationship with a SP is not doomed. I date an accountant who is well aware of what I do for a living. He understands that this is a stepping stone for me to get to where I have to get in life. He doesn't question me, my morals or my (our) safety.
It is all a matter of trust and understanding. If you trust your partner then you should never question your relationship with your SO no matter what they do for a living.
I feel badly for Niagara. I am aware that a number of girls don't tell there SO about what they do which I do not think is fair. I could never image lying to someone that I love or care for.
On the other hand my mother doesn't know what I do, nor will she ever hopefully find out. I am sure that if she did she would be more then dissappointed with my choice. But it is MY choice and no one is going to take that away from me.
 

train

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I agree with everything you said AnonSP except the second paragraph . There is ALWAYS an occupation that would be too difficult to handle . It's just different for different people . For some it would be having the significant other be a cop , for others a SP and , of course there is the ever unpopular 'drug dealer' . All for different reasons .
 

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But anon1 we all know accountants have neither morals or scruples so he isn't a fair example
 
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