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I might not get any responses, since this thread is a few days old, but I have a related comment. Most have made it clear - in the absence of any heat source of any kind - space is cold.

What is the orbit that the space shuttle uses? Does it try to stay on the "dark side" of the earth or the periphery? What would happen if the space shuttle stayed in "sun shine" for a large duration of its orbit around earth?
 
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Are you exposing your arm to vacuum? If not, then what you would feel would be like sticking your arm in shadow on earth (to some degree). It will all depend on what the rate of heat transfer is of the material enclosing your arm. If it is just a layer of plastic I would imagine you would start to feel very cold very fast. If you had the equivalent of R40 insulation you would be losing heat much more slowly and therefore wouldn't feel as cold.
I am assuming no cover at all lfor your arm - a bare arm.

It's a bare-back space job!

But seriously, wouldnt the lack of air or anything else contacting your skin make the heat loss at a minimum SLOWER than on earth?
 

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mass and energy are constants? I think I'd second northpole's advice.
Once again I think you misinterpret me

When is there never any mass ?????????? There is none in a vacuum but there is still mass somewhere no ????

Even before the big bang there was mass but time did not exist

If the universe expands into a big chill there will still be mass but time will no longer flow



Mass cannot be eliminated unless it is converted into energy and you cannot get rid of energy unless it is converted into mass no ????? But time you can eliminate
 

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Whether you intended it or not, your post came off as disbelieving that light/EM radiation is able to travel through a vacuum which has been completely disproven. If that was your intent, you are flat out wrong..


No I never intended to say that at all. I pointed out that to travel through a vacuum light behaves like a particle because there is nothing to wave through

As far as the duality, it is well accepted that light has both wave and particle like properties and that the properties you see depends largely on the type of test you do...


that was the point I was making and I will go one further !

here is the double slit experiment done with a single electron, not a photon

The electron behaves like an particle when it is observed but like a wave when it is not observed,
(Not sure if photon would behave the same as electron but I suspect it would as they both obey quantum laws)

Raising two questions

1 what is matter a wave or a particle ?
2 How does it know it is being observed !!!!!!!!!!!?


 
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To the best of my knowledge their orbits are primarily in the sunshine, hence the need for big radiators in the cargo bay doors.
 

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I am assuming no cover at all lfor your arm - a bare arm.

It's a bare-back space job!

But seriously, wouldnt the lack of air or anything else contacting your skin make the heat loss at a minimum SLOWER than on earth?
We're pretty much beyond my knowledge here now, having never been stuck bare-ass in a vacuum so I'm not sure. I know what you're saying... a terbite w/o an 'expert' opinion? It's shocking, but there you are. :D
 

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Dude you won't get a quantum mechanics education here - I'd recommend a book, start with say Michio Kaku - he's a fun read, many others are plain offputting. After you are done a few of them you'll have a lot of these fundamental questions answered.

Your understanding of the fundamentals is being shut down because you are processing terms within the confines of language - "observed" is term used for a layman equivalent, they could have used the term "measured" as well - notice how that makes more sense.

As well, the wave/particle duality of matter is also to be found in these fundamentals.

Happy Reading - when you get to the point where you understand how to bend light pm me :)
Gravity bends light , therefore we bend light as we have a mass

They have measured this bending when the sun was in an eclipse as they could now see how starlight had shifted from its expected path


I have seen Michio Kaku on TV and he explains things simply

Hawkins is also a easy read as well as Asimov although he died so his stuff is dated

And I do believe observe is the correct term

They knew they were firing electrons into the slit but it made a wave impression so what was coming out of the slit ? On observation an electron came out and made a particle impression
 
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Maybe Kaku was speaking loosely? Newton's gravity would have trouble bending light because light has no mass (hence all the Star Trek stuff about not exceeding light speed because things have mass). Einstein is the way to go, but Albert ejected gravity in favor of saying objects with mass alter the curvature of spacetime. So light is not bent by gravity, rather, light follows the geodesics of space time, so if the shape of the universe is curved in one area, light does not move linearly, but if it is not curved, you get liner a movement. Presto.
And I am sure someone already said space is an area of low pressure, meaning few molecules to vibrate and give off heat or to absorb incoming light and radiate heat. I hear marriage is an area of low pressure too.
Yes the light was travelling the curvatures of space

Bend space enough and two points will touch allowing interstellar space travel without warp drive

This very well may be what black holes do as the matter they devour may be ejected in another part of the universe
 

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the reason outer space is cold, is because god left his fridge door open
 

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But mass is positively charged, no negative mass, so no gravitational field conductor (alternate universes to the rescue?).

I love snow days
There is such a thing as anti-matter

During the big bang these two forces fought it out in a great anniliation and matter won but antiparticles are created where high-energy particle collisions take place


Step one

harness the energy of a couple of stars to bend the space in front of you until two different regions of space touch

Step two

cloak your space ship in anti matter (try not to get any on you)

Step three

travel to another region of space ( do not care what is over there just boldly go )



Am I right Kingfisher1 ( Him got degree in Physics ) ??
 

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the bulb burned out
Bullshit. The reason space is cold and is dark is because God CLOSED the freezer door. The bulb works just fine. If he left the door open and the light was burnt out then the light from the kitchen would be creeping in.
 

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Bullshit. The reason space is cold and is dark is because God CLOSED the freezer door. The bulb works just fine. If he left the door open and the light was burnt out then the light from the kitchen would be creeping in.
god can see in the dark
 

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