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You could be right but I also think it's the water you swim in. That is, you have your own anchor price points and thus inherently assume everyone else is similar. I think you're, say, sub $500, and thus you believe there is little demand for the >$500 price point and that they 'must' be low volume.

However, given that you're not in the>$500 price points market, or whatever a high value to you is, you're not familar or knowledgable with different markets. I'm not either.

HOWEVER, I do know that there is a LOT of money out there and I suspect the $1,000++ girls are very busy, there are a lot of them, more than we can know, and they will likely stay busy as tough times tend not to effect the upper luxury market as much. At that market, we're not buying DATY or Greek, we're buying the illusion of exclusivity and women untouched by the hoi polloi. My guess - and given there isn't "StatsCan" data on this it is only your guess as well - it's a different demand with significant price elasticity.

I don't think there is that many SP's on market charging the above 500 rate. The simple way to figure this out is simply google and try to find them. My guess is you won't come up with that many.

My guess is 5-10% of the market is SP's with rates over 500, and that's a small amount. 10% being on the extreme generous side. Even if you go onto EROS which is more catered toward high end, its hard to find any SP's charging over 500.
 
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I don't think there is that many SP's on market charging the above 500 rate. The simple way to figure this out is simply google and try to find them. My guess is you won't come up with that many.

My guess is 5-10% of the market is SP's with rates over 500, and that's a small amount. 10% being on the extreme generous side. Even if you go onto EROS which is more catered toward high end, its hard to find any SP's charging over 500.
You don't think? Your guess is...? And then stats based on f all lol?

Just admit you don't know.

Ps. Barely noone advertise on Eros because they can't get verified AND they don't get a good return on investment. You just don't know where to find them because....they are NOT at your prefered price point and once again you confuse the market with your budget. It's double ignorance.
 

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You don't think? Your guess is...? And then stats based on f all lol?

Just admit you don't know.

Ps. Barely noone advertise on Eros because they can't get verified AND they don't get a good return on investment. You just don't know where to find them because....they are NOT at your prefered price point and once again you confuse the market with your budget. It's double ignorance.
oh dear lord....

The women that doesn't understand economics in her own industry is trying to give me pointers...🍿
 
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Every home and automobile has its own market value. For some, it's similar. For others, the range of values is higher or lower. Some homes and automobiles have no market value, because the owner has no interest in exchanging the asset for currency.

There's no market value for a home like Fallingwater:

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or Buckingham Palace. Market Value only applies to things that someone is willing to sell. This is why people with huge amounts of money often buy original artwork or other rare and valuable items.

Reg Hartt exhibits films at the Cineforum, a small theater in the living room of his home on Bathurst Street. He owns a lot of very rare and valuable items that have no market value, because acquiring money doesn't interest him. What market price would you put on a life size replica of The Shroud of Turin? It has no market value, because it's never been sold. The original Shroud would be considerably more valuable, but not for sale at any price.


This is true, as an average, but the price range for individual providers is both higher and lower. $250-$350 is what one would expect to pay for an 'average SP'. Some Escorts are below average in terms of appearance, menu, or reputation, and their fee is lower. Others are above average in one or more of those categories, in their own opinions, or on the basis of positive reviews.

Your argument mixes averages and individual circumstances, and that's why it's meaningless. If you wanted to book a session with an Italian spinner, you might expect to pay $250-$350. If you wanted to book that session with Ariana Grande, an offer in that range wouldn't even receive a reply.


While it is likely that you have studied Economics to some extent, I highly doubt that you have ever studied logic, which is the basis for any successful argument not based on emotion, passion or zeal.
Sorry, but I have to ask. If there is no 'market' for Fallingwater or Buckingham Palace, how do you supposed they are assessed for the purposes of property taxation? Property assessments for the purposes of taxation are completed by comparatively assessing the local real estate market, and a tax rate is established and applied on every property whether the owner plans to sell or not.

Same for rare commodities and/or valuable collectibles. How do you supposed Fin Services orgs arrive at an insurance rate for them? Same assessment process against comparatives in a defined market. Insurers don't ask or care if you are willing or planning to sell, they simply collect data about the asset and compare against similar assets within their defined market to reach a defined rate.

My point is that your assertion that 'Market Value only applies to things someone is willing to sell' is incorrect. All commodities/assets have a market and can be assessed against that market to establish an estimated value. For sale or not makes no difference. Even women who are not escorts are part of a market, and are assessed against that market to determine their value to men looking for a SO. Conversely, men are also part of a similar market and are assessed by women for similar reasons.

Ever hear of a newly divorced/separated/broken up man or woman being described as being 'back on the market'? Diving back 'into the pool' is another similar euphemism.

Women offering themselves and their services as commodities to be traded on the open market can be and are actually being assessed daily against all other women acting in similar fashion within the sex industry (i.e. their common market). Yes, one variable that can be included in that assessment is 'price per hour', but there are many variables to be considered as well, it's not the only one, and may not even be the most important one to those performing their own assessment.

But make no mistake - there is a market, it can be segmented in many diff ways, and men are indeed comparatively assessing the measured value of each lady against all other ladies in that market. For some, the deciding factor will be price, for some it will be body style, for some it will be service quality (experienced or reputational), etc etc.

In these increasingly tough economic times, price per hour is likely the most heavily weighted criteria for hobbyists in most cases, but certainly not all.

That being said, it's not unreasonable or illogical to believe that regardless of supply, as price per hour for any commodity or service within a given market goes up to extraordinary levels, demand for that service decreases proportionately. There will always be outliers where demand will remain high due to other contributing factors, including perceived affordability within certain demographics (e.g. some guys simply have more money so the commodity is still viewed as affordable in context), but typically speaking, they remain significant outliers to the norm, as the percentage of high rollers is small compared to the average spending capacity of the masses searching the market.

PS Buckingham Palace has an assessed market value of $4.9 Billion and Fallingwater's last assessed market value in 2004 was $15 Million, but has a revised estimated market value of $10 Million in 2022.
 
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Looks like everyone understands except a handful of you.
no, your if the handful that’s not getting it.
I have proof with pages and pages and endless amount of SP’s that have set their rates at market value including you!!! Lol!!!

let me guess? You’re going to reply with “those are SP’s can get more but then they will be just priced outside my personal budget”…lol. Literally has nothing to do with my personal budget. In fact, I don’t even know how you know what my budget is..lol.

it’s pretty simple, if you raise your rates to 500 an hour, see what happens. You’re going make way less money. Why??? You’ve priced yourself out of the market. You’re beyond the value of what the market can hold of what most SP’s can fetch per hour in an open competitive market for the services and looks your advertising.

I’ll give you one last example to see if this sinks in. Do you know what market value is for a PT employee is in retail fast food? It’s pretty much minimum wage. Are there some extenuating circumstances where the odd person gets more? Yes

The reason is because the skills and services they are offering to a company only hold so much value. If they demand 20 bucks an hour, they’ll simply hire someone else with the skills and services that can do the job. Your industry is no different.

Take a step back, and think about the argument you’re trying make. Just take some time and think it through.
 
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Sorry, but I have to ask. If there is no 'market' for Fallingwater or Buckingham Palace, how do you supposed they are assessed for the purposes of property taxation? Property assessments for the purposes of taxation are completed by comparatively assessing the local real estate market, and a tax rate is established and applied on every property whether the owner plans to sell or not.

Same for rare commodities and/or valuable collectibles. How do you supposed Fin Services orgs arrive at an insurance rate for them? Same assessment process against comparatives in a defined market. Insurers don't ask or care if you are willing or planning to sell, they simply collect data about the asset and compare against similar assets within their defined market to reach a defined rate.

My point is that your assertion that 'Market Value only applies to things someone is willing to sell' is incorrect. All commodities/assets have a market and can be assessed against that market to establish an estimated value. For sale or not makes no difference. Even women who are not escorts are part of a market, and are assessed against that market to determine their value to men looking for a SO. Conversely, men are also part of a similar market and are assessed by women for similar reasons.

Ever hear of a newly divorced/separated/broken up man or woman being described as being 'back on the market'? Diving back 'into the pool' is another similar euphemism.

Women offering themselves and their services as commodities to be traded on the open market can be and are actually being assessed daily against all other women acting in similar fashion within the sex industry (i.e. their common market). Yes, one variable that can be included in that assessment is 'price per hour', but there are many variables to be considered as well, it's not the only one, and may not even be the most important one to those performing their own assessment.

But make no mistake - there is a market, it can be segmented in many diff ways, and men are indeed comparatively assessing the measured value of each lady against all other ladies in that market. For some, the deciding factor will be price, for some it will be body style, for some it will be service quality (experienced or reputational), etc etc.

In these increasingly tough economic times, price per hour is likely the most heavily weighted criteria for hobbyists in most cases, but certainly not all.

That being said, it's not unreasonable or illogical to believe that regardless of supply, as price per hour for any commodity or service within a given market goes up to extraordinary levels, demand for that service decreases proportionately. There will always be outliers where demand will remain high due to other contributing factors, including perceived affordability within certain demographics (e.g. some guys simply have more money so the commodity is still viewed as affordable in context), but typically speaking, they remain significant outliers to the norm, as the percentage of high rollers is small compared to the average spending capacity of the masses searching the market.
If they can’t wrap their head around this explanation, then it’s simply a matter that they’re just not smart enough to understand.

it’s literally the equivalent of a student taking a class, and the professor is trying to explain how something works, and the student is telling the professor he/she is wrong..lol.
 

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So re the initial post:

Everyone is now happy. I did increase my rates 20$ in May after 4years of the same.

Long time loyal regulars can continue to pay previous (I usually end up with nice gifts anyways).

Most clients were just fine with the increase and didn't even ask, I just noticed they included the extra 20$.

I won't be increasing again or pricing myself out of reach for the people I enjoy seeing the most. I've been able to balance my books after 6 months with this price point. Perfect time to reflect and see how it worked out.
 

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I’m not a rocket surgery….but this seems like a silly argument. If you’re going to argue market strategy, you would need to define the market first. I don’t think a toothless streetwalker and a high end escort are the same market…even though they are essentially selling the same thing. The price and market strategy is infinitely variable.
 
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Not a single woman who makes this statement would trade their body to have Lizzo's body.

And that's how truth is revealed.
I can feel positively towards a lot of people and not want everything they have or be everything they are.

So what truth are you looking for? I have to want her body to like her. Do I have to want her jet setting lifestyle too? Cause I don’t want that either.

See women are different. We don’t judge all people on their body like you seem too.
 
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