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How will you vote if spring election?

How will you vote?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 44 53.0%
  • Liberals

    Votes: 25 30.1%
  • NDP

    Votes: 5 6.0%
  • Bloc Quebec

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 8 9.6%

  • Total voters
    83

danmand

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Nov 28, 2003
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someone said:
You still have a few more witty comebacks to make.
PYBSE
 

danmand

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Nov 28, 2003
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someone said:
I'll get back to you later to see if you got caught up.

PYBSE
 

danmand

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Nov 28, 2003
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This is like watching monkeys play chess.:eek:
 

oldjones

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Aug 18, 2001
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C'mon guys, we need some anyone-but-the-Cons votes! Keep minority government! It's the ONLY time pols actually try to give is what we want and need. It doesn't matter what their party or their ppolitics, as soon as they're secure, they forget the voters and just do waht makes themselves comfy.
 

solitaria

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Jun 1, 2005
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It's too bad there isn't a party that would decriminalize prostitution and all drugs, make taxes way more progressive and pay down the debt. That would raise the standard of living exponentially for the majority.
 

someone

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Jun 7, 2003
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lookingforitallthetime said:
You're underestimating the entertainment value of watching monkeys play chess.
You have to admit that demand's arguments in this thread are at least intelligent as any of his other agruments.
 

stainless

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newguy27 said:
That's how they did it in Ancient Greece.

In Canada, pretty all mainstream parties are liberal (just varying degrees), which is a reflection of our culture, general attitudes. Other countries have more truer conservative parties.

That is so true - our "conservative" party would be left wing in the States

BTw i am voting conservative,
 

FOOTSNIFFER

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Jan 23, 2004
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oldjones said:
C'mon guys, we need some anyone-but-the-Cons votes! Keep minority government! It's the ONLY time pols actually try to give is what we want and need. It doesn't matter what their party or their ppolitics, as soon as they're secure, they forget the voters and just do waht makes themselves comfy.
Unfortunately, it's also the time pols think they can expand government which, once done, has a habit of never going back to its original shape.

Minority governments spend in order to garner attention and support from people beyond their 'base" of supporters. The real solution, which I've sadly concluded that nobody in Canada will seriously consider, is to make the usually dangerously ham-fisted and economically ruinous decisions of the government IRRELEVANT by making their footprint in our lives smaller. If the government (all levels) represents half of our expenditures (not yet-thank god), then every little imbecility that they propose and implement will have an far greater effect on the average guy out there than if it were only 20%, say.

Lower income people here aren't haviong more kids (the justification for our immigration regime) because ' le fardeau fiscale', the weight of government is so overbearing. Think about that, the one thing that nature places an imperative on us to do, to propogate our very selves, and people can't afford to do it.
 

markvee

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Mar 18, 2003
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FOOTSNIFFER said:
Unfortunately, it's also the time pols think they can expand government which, once done, has a habit of never going back to its original shape.

Minority governments spend in order to garner attention and support from people beyond their 'base" of supporters. The real solution, which I've sadly concluded that nobody in Canada will seriously consider, is to make the usually dangerously ham-fisted and economically ruinous decisions of the government IRRELEVANT by making their footprint in our lives smaller. If the government (all levels) represents half of our expenditures (not yet-thank god), then every little imbecility that they propose and implement will have an far greater effect on the average guy out there than if it were only 20%, say.
I believe that the government should be paying debt, not spending.

FOOTSNIFFER said:
Lower income people here aren't haviong more kids (the justification for our immigration regime) because ' le fardeau fiscale', the weight of government is so overbearing. Think about that, the one thing that nature places an imperative on us to do, to propogate our very selves, and people can't afford to do it.
Disagree. I think that it is middle to high income people who have fewer children.

From:
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070313/census_070313/20070313?hub=CanadaAM

Overall, the national fertility rate -- the average number of children a woman will have between age 15 and 49 -- remains stalled at 1.5, the same as five years earlier.

The rate remains far below the 2.1 children per woman it takes to replace the dying population.

While most industrialized countries have relatively low fertility rates, Canada lags far behind the U.S., which has a fertility rate of about 2.0.

Canadians gave birth to more children on average than Americans in the period between the Second World War and the 1980s, with the exception of a period around the Vietnam War.

But since the 80s, there has been a significant divergence, and it's not clear why.

In the U.S., the large Hispanic population -- accounting for about one in seven Americans -- is pushing the national birth rate up. Hispanics have about 2.9 children per family.

The closest high-fertility equivalent in Canada is First Nations peoples. But that group accounts for less than 5 per cent of the population, so the rate has little effect on the national average.
 

red

you must be fk'n kid'g me
Nov 13, 2001
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oldjones said:
C'mon guys, we need some anyone-but-the-Cons votes! Keep minority government! It's the ONLY time pols actually try to give is what we want and need. It doesn't matter what their party or their ppolitics, as soon as they're secure, they forget the voters and just do waht makes themselves comfy.

just remember- this poll is not representative since the Bloc will win quebec again and there aren't as many quebecers on this board
 

Aardvark154

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Jan 19, 2006
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red said:
just remember- this poll is not representative since the Bloc will win quebec again and there aren't as many quebecers on this board
Interesting unscientific results however, assuming:
a) there hasn't been "cheating" by those not eligible to vote
b) that 98 percent + of those voting are from Ontario.
 

FOOTSNIFFER

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Jan 23, 2004
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The decline in the birthrate coincides, but I agree that's this has not been proven to be caused by, the rapid increase in the tax load following the 70s trudeaupian expansion of the government. Also, women began, in the 70s, to educate themselves and participate in the workforce; it was a lifestyle choice. But it was, and remains, a necessity for most of the people I know for both parents in the household to work. Statistics can be read anyway you want.
 

pussylicker

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Jun 19, 2003
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Doing laps at the Y
So far in terb, it's a clear majority for the Conservatives.

someone said:
It always seems to be that way on terb. I don’t’ recall the conservatives ever losing a vote on TERB, even when they lost an election. I’ve sometimes wondered what baises the vote here.
Depends on how many MPs are present here, and how many closet liberals there are that don't want to be outed, so they keep their mouth shut and vote with the status quo to go undetected.:D
 

slowpoke

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Oct 22, 2004
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FOOTSNIFFER said:
The decline in the birthrate coincides, but I agree that's this has not been proven to be caused by, the rapid increase in the tax load following the 70s trudeaupian expansion of the government. Also, women began, in the 70s, to educate themselves and participate in the workforce; it was a lifestyle choice. But it was, and remains, a necessity for most of the people I know for both parents in the household to work. Statistics can be read anyway you want.
Part of the reason for our declining birth rate is women working well into their 30's before trying to start a family. Once they finally decide it is time to get pregnant, quite a few find they have left it too long and pregnancy is either difficult or impossible. So they end up with only 1 kid when they were hoping for 2 - or none at all. Fertility clinics are doing a booming business with these ladies.

The reasons women delay pregnancy are sometimes out of economic necessity - ie: they really can't afford a family or the pay cut during maternity leave etc. But plenty of times it is more about lifestyle preferences - ie: they could afford it but they are unwilling to do without "necessities" such as nicer homes, trips, multiple vehicles, home theatre etc. So they end up playing chicken with their biological clock. Sometimes the clock wins.
 
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