If a preganant woman, who is neither a citizen of US nor a citizen of Canada, gives a birth to a child on the US and Canadian border (with one leg in the US side of the border and another in Canadian side of the border) then what will be the citizenship of the child?
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Are you really that bored ??? What kind of stupid question is this ??? Why don't you ask if the child will have a split personality while you're at it ?
Nonetheless...who's the father ?
Nonetheless...who's the father ?
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According to International law:
1. When the kid hits the ground, does he roll towards the US or Canada? Whichever way he rolls will determine his citizenship.
2. If the child remains 50-50 in each country, whichever way he turns his head first will be the determining factor.
3. If the child's head remains stationary, what will happen is a game of chance will need to be played by the leaders of the two countries. Whoever wins that game, gets the child.
4. If the game of chance ends up in a tie, the child will become persona non citiza and be forced to wander the border, spending equal time on each side of the border, but not more than 100 feet (30.48 metres) from it, until the age of 18 at which time he will be shot from a cannon lined up exactly along the international boundary. Wherever he lands (prevailing winds will determine this) is where his citizenship will be.
5. In the event that he lands exactly on the border again, he will be forced to choose between the countries by way of the drawing of lots.
Source: International Treaty of Silly Questions, 1945
1. When the kid hits the ground, does he roll towards the US or Canada? Whichever way he rolls will determine his citizenship.
2. If the child remains 50-50 in each country, whichever way he turns his head first will be the determining factor.
3. If the child's head remains stationary, what will happen is a game of chance will need to be played by the leaders of the two countries. Whoever wins that game, gets the child.
4. If the game of chance ends up in a tie, the child will become persona non citiza and be forced to wander the border, spending equal time on each side of the border, but not more than 100 feet (30.48 metres) from it, until the age of 18 at which time he will be shot from a cannon lined up exactly along the international boundary. Wherever he lands (prevailing winds will determine this) is where his citizenship will be.
5. In the event that he lands exactly on the border again, he will be forced to choose between the countries by way of the drawing of lots.
Source: International Treaty of Silly Questions, 1945
*BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ*red-rageous said:
Wrong answer. The correct answer was "Only slightly more than smallpox."
Gene, do we have some nice parting gifts? No? Oh well.
If the parents are neither US nor Canadian citizens what makes you think t he child would get citizenship in either country? I'm not sure how the hospital would register the child, they don't give birth certificates to non-citizens do they? I believe that when the mother returns to her country of citizenship she would have to apply for a birthcertificate there in order to register the child. I'm no expert but if its different than I think I'd be interested in hearing what the rules are.Big Daddy said:
Simply being born in a country or on grounds designated as part of a country doesn't automatically make you a citizen does it?
OK found some info, its the 14th amendment (US, still havent found anything similar for Canada yet). Of course there is also the proposals to change this amendament, last one proposed April 2003, to change it so that atleast one of the parents must have US citizenship.
My own confusion over it comes with how they handle 'territory', I don't think t hey consider US military bases terroritoy, else I would have been born a US citizen, or perhaps it was my parents choice and they chose to register me Canadian.
My own confusion over it comes with how they handle 'territory', I don't think t hey consider US military bases terroritoy, else I would have been born a US citizen, or perhaps it was my parents choice and they chose to register me Canadian.
Travelling Guy,
Anyone born in US soil is American citizen. This is one of the reasons why so many Mexican pregnent women cross the border to give birth in US. The citizenship of parents or even how the mother entered US (legal or illegal is irrelavant).
I did not know the Canadian law, but the child is US citizen for sure. The reason I asked this question was that once I saw on TV where someone built a house half in US border and half in canadian side of the border. The person was dual citizen.
Anyone born in US soil is American citizen. This is one of the reasons why so many Mexican pregnent women cross the border to give birth in US. The citizenship of parents or even how the mother entered US (legal or illegal is irrelavant).
I did not know the Canadian law, but the child is US citizen for sure. The reason I asked this question was that once I saw on TV where someone built a house half in US border and half in canadian side of the border. The person was dual citizen.
I've found references to similar laws in canada (ie: child born in canada is canadian citizen), but haven't found the official laws yet. The proposals to ammend the US law are proposed for exactly that reason (ie: people coming into the country to have children).
I read the US amendmant page and its proposals, seems like they've been battling this issue for ages, numerous proposals and none ever make it to the floor.
I read the US amendmant page and its proposals, seems like they've been battling this issue for ages, numerous proposals and none ever make it to the floor.
Thanks Goober, now to try and interpret it. It does reference children of foreign diplomats as not being eligiable, but it doesn't make reference of other non-citizens, what if the person is in the country illegally?
As I read it, TravellingGuy, as long as the little bugger is born in Canada, he/she's a Canadian Citizen. Regardless of his/her parents' citizenship.
Right, except children of foreign diplomats, now why would that be? Is section 2 only pertaining to foreign diplomats? At first I thought it waas, because of the side bar 'Not applicable to children of foreign diplomats' but then the side bars aren't really part of the law, and there's the 'etc' part.Goober Mcfly said:
(2) Paragraph (1)(a) does not apply to a person if, at the time of his birth, neither of his parents was a citizen or lawfully admitted to Canada for permanent residence and either of his parents was
The and/or (s) get confusing, the first part 'neither of his parentswas a zitizen or lawfully...' would seem to include illegal entries, however the 'and either his parents was..' which then lists things which seem to pertain only to foreign diplomats.
I'm not arguing it either way, just trying to get an understanding of what the law is.
