I knew China eats dog meat but cats too

S.C. Joe

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WTF is it about China, no human or animal rights but cause they have cheap labor, hey that is OK we keep doing trade with you the world all seems to say :(

Pet lovers protest cats on the menu in China

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GUANGZHOU, China (AP) -- While animal lovers in Beijing protested the killing of cats for food on Thursday, a butcher in Guangdong province - where felines are the main ingredient in a famous soup - just shrugged her shoulders and wielded her cleaver. "Cats have a strong flavor. Dogs taste much better, but if you really want cat meat, I can have it delivered by tomorrow," said the butcher, who gave only her surname, Huang.

It was just this attitude that outraged about 40 cat lovers who unfurled banners in a tearful protest outside the Guangdong government office in Beijing. Many were retirees who care for stray felines they said were being rounded up by dealers.

"We must make them correct this uncivilized behavior," said Wang Hongyao, who represented the group in submitting a letter urging the provincial government to crack down on traders and restaurants, although they were breaking no laws.

The protest was the latest clash between age-old traditions and the new sensibilities made possible by China's growing affluence. Pet ownership was once rare because the Communist Party condemned it as bourgeois and most people simply couldn't afford a cat or dog.

The protesters' indignation was whipped up by recent reports in Chinese newspapers about the cat meat industry. On Monday, the Southern Metropolis Daily - a Guangdong paper famous for its exposes and aggressive reporting - ran a story that said about 1,000 cats were transported by train to Guangdong each day.

The animals came from Nanjing, a major trading hub for cats, the newspaper said. They were brought to market by dealers on motorcycles, crammed into wooden crates and sent to Guangdong on trains. A photo showed a cat with green eyes peering from a crowded crate.

Some people in Nanjing spend their days "fishing for cats," often stealing pets, the report said.

One cat owner in Guanghzou said people are afraid to let their pets leave the house for fear they will get nabbed.

"It's never been this bad. Who knows, it might be because of the bad economy. I've heard that there are cat-nabbing syndicates from Hunan that are rounding up cats," said the man, who would only give his surname, Lai, because he feared the cat business might be run by gangsters.

Animal protection groups have occasionally ambushed truck convoys loaded with bamboo cages filled with cats bound for Guangdong. In one recent case, hundreds of cats escaped after their cages were opened, though hundreds more remained penned in the vehicle.

Lai Xiaoyu, who was involved in the attempted "rescue," said authorities couldn't stop the cat shipment because the traders said the animals were to be raised as pets.

"The police did what they could, but there's little they can do to stop or punish those traders from shipping live animals," Lai said.

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, or PETA, issued a statement Thursday decrying the cruel treatment.

"China has no animal protection laws, and throughout the country scores of cats and dogs are bred or rounded up, crammed onto trucks and driven for days under hellish conditions to animal markets, where they are beaten to death, strangled or boiled alive," said a spokesman for the group, Michael V. McGraw.

Guangdong is home to the Cantonese people, famous for being the most adventurous eaters in China. There's a popular saying: "The Cantonese will eat anything that flies, except airplanes, and anything with legs, except a chair."

Zhu Huilian, a nutrition and food safety professor at Sun Yat-Sen University in Guangdong's capital, Guangzhou, said people usually eat cat in restaurants, not at home.

"There's a famous soup called 'Dragon, Tiger and Phoenix,'" Zhu said. "It involves cooking snake, cat and chicken together. In winter more people eat cats as they believe it's extra nutritious."

The wide-ranging Cantonese culinary tastes are on display daily in Guangzhou, also known as Canton, in the Qing Ping Market. Shopkeepers sit behind cages full of writhing snakes, tubs with turtles and plastic basins with mounds of scorpions crawling over each other.

That's where the butcher, Huang, sells her meat, sliced on a blood-soaked cutting board in a stall filled with cages of chickens and rabbits.

Hanging on a hook from its head - with its snout cut cleanly off - was a skinned dog with a long curly tail, paws with small clumps of fur still on them and black claws. The dog's jaw bone was displayed in a metal tray beneath the carcass.

"The cat meat we sell comes from legitimate sources," said Huang, who gave only her surname because her boss doesn't allow her to speak to reporters. "It's from cat farms. The animals are raised the same way cows are."

She said cat meat sold for about $1.32 a pound, while dog meat was cheaper, at about 95 cents a pound. Chicken was the best buy at 62 cents a pound, while lamb sold for about $1.32.

Huang said customers had to order cat meat a day in advance because it doesn't sell as well as dog.

"Cat tastes a bit like lamb. I don't like it much," she said. "Young cats are tender, but the meat on the older ones is really tough. Usually old people like eating it."

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S.C. Joe

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Yes but look how China kills these animals. I recall seeing when they were rounding all the dogs up a few years past, they were clubbing them to death right in front of their owners.

I seen on TV dogs there with their front paws tied up above their heads while alive at the butcher shops waiting to be sold and killed. The butcher would carry them around by their paws.

How they treat some humans isn't any better.
 

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So, GI Joe, how does the USA treated their humans being?.....by sending them to war for oil......it's people like you that always tried to play God....totally agreed with Dr. Know, it's a matter of taste, so don't judge other.
 

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It is not wrong to eat cats and dogs. It is just different from what we are used to. In China its normal. In India, cows are sacred animals. Yet we eat them freely. Why can we eat a holy animal that is saveagely killed, and not be considered cruel? Its a nonsensical double standard to disparage other cultures for eating animals we don't eat.
 

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j69 said:
So, GI Joe, how does the USA treated their humans being?.....by sending them to war for oil......it's people like you that always tried to play God....totally agreed with Dr. Know, it's a matter of taste, so don't judge other.
The soldier analogy doesn't work. No connection. Feeble argument.
 

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What about seal hunting in Canada
Eaxactly, I hate this sanctimonious drivel against 3rd-world countries, here in Canada we clun to death 1 million baby seals a year, where's the OP's outrage on this?
 

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Its more how they treat the animals than what they eat. Yes, here in the US cows have been abused with cattle prods but when video tapes came out people were fire and lost their job.

No, I have no link, it was on TV years ago, it was very sad, you could see tears in the dogs eyes (this was before China became our great friends) :rolleyes: it was about 10 years ago. I am sure it still goes on since it was just a year or so ago they had that big dog kill and there was videos of them slowly hitting the dogs to death (they just use small sticks and it took 2 men a few mins to kill the dog).

Recall China doesn't let people (tourist) walk around anywhere with video recorders, video like that needs to be smuggle out of the country. You can't even post it on-line since China has web filters that block feeds in and out of China. (why you might ask).

All countries have their "bad apples" but in China it just seems more the norm. Then there is child labor abuse, sweat shops, etc.

Even if we were as bad as China (and I don't think so) it still doesn't make it right.
 

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The vegetarian's might have the right idea afterall. At this stage in my life i'm pretty much against the killing of any life form.

The thing is though the chinese are taking brutality to a whole new level.
 

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S.C. Joe said:
Yes but look how China kills these animals. I recall seeing when they were rounding all the dogs up a few years past, they were clubbing them to death right in front of their owners.

I seen on TV dogs there with their front paws tied up above their heads while alive at the butcher shops waiting to be sold and killed. The butcher would carry them around by their paws.

How they treat some humans isn't any better.
Stop waving your flag around here please. China's record of human, animal and environmental rights is abysmal. But so is your good ole' U.S. of A.'s!

Ever see how animals are "farmed" in US agribusiness? How about the slaughterhouse techniques? Sickening and hideous are apt words to describe it. And that doesn't even factor in the lack of flavour and health issues with eating these types of foods.

China is an easy target, but it should not be the only one you point your righteous finger at.

How we treat our animals and food supply is a direct reflection of our values and mores - and the majority of humans are failing miserably in that regard. Stewardship and responsibility extends beyond getting what you want out of something at any cost and ignoring the ramifications.
 

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It's unfortunate that there's lots of cruel things happened in this world, to animals, humans, environment....every day we pick a newspaper, it's like 95% bad news and 5% good news. Joe, we are the one that created child labor abuse, sweat shops, etc....in China, India, Vietnam...all third world countries, because of cheap labor. Look at the shoe we wearing or the toys our children played with, it's all make in third world countries. We are the one to be blame, don't you think?
 
People... Please.... Our world is made up with a whole bunch of different societies. What we think is "barbaric" is the norm somewhere else... Deal with it!

In my line of work, I deal with the Chinese every day. Human rights issues not with standing, their social/ economic system is entirely different than ours. Accept it.

How do you think people in India feel about our "brutal treatment" of livestock? To them, cows are sacred creatures... to us, a GREAT STEAK DINNER!;)
 

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How do you think people in India feel about our "brutal treatment" of livestock? To them, cows are sacred creatures... to us, a GREAT STEAK DINNER!


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j69 said:
It's unfortunate that there's lots of cruel things happened in this world, to animals, humans, environment....every day we pick a newspaper, it's like 95% bad news and 5% good news. Joe, we are the one that created child labor abuse, sweat shops, etc....in China, India, Vietnam...all third world countries, because of cheap labor. Look at the shoe we wearing or the toys our children played with, it's all make in third world countries. We are the one to be blame, don't you think?
OK- lets look passed the headlines for just a second... Years ago, this may have been an issue, but not anymore.

Are you aware of the fact that 99% of the factories in China undergo RIGOROUS inspections to MAKE 100% sure that they are following ALL Human Rights/ ethics codes etc.? If they don't pass inspection, they get red listed and will not be allowed to ship goods. That is FACT! Every major retailer and brand in North America that sources product from the orient/ Asia etc. has Code of Ethics and Human Rights standards that MUST be followed. Inspections are done at the retailer/ brand's discretion and are "unannounced" so the factory cannot "cheat".
 

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Yes, I do know, which is great, like I said, don't judge others, give them times and slowly they'll change. Personally, I just think China's an easy target to pick on, or we just jealous of them.
 
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