I'm thinking of a career in financial planning

donjuan69

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Hi everyone:

I received a request from IG to attend one of these information sessions on becoming a financial planner?

Does anyone know what the monthly cash flow would be for something like that?

I have financial training, but haven't worked in that field for years.

Also, I understand that you have to work towards some sort of certification.

Any input would be appreciated.

If sensative, don't hesitate to PM me.
 

JohnLarue

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Investors Group will set you up & support you for a while with a draw (I am not 100% sure about the draw), but it is your career to build. If you do not sign up clients then you do not make $
Here is the catch, they expect you to find the clients

So the question is do you think you can find enough clients to invest their cash in IGs mutual funds?

The MERs are approx 2.5% (on average) & you might get to keep 40-50% of that as the rep

To make 50K a year you will need to build a book of 4 to 5 million in assets under administration.

If you know some wealthy people who are willing to invest with you and you believe in the value of IGs (overpriced, lackluster performance) funds it might work.

If you do not know wealthy people you will have to drum up the business, with cold calls. (that is tough)

Probably half the people who start out as trainees do not make it
Success is more Dependant upon your ability to sell than your financial skills
 

mildandlazy

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Certified Financial Planners (CFP)

You MUST be a CFP to sell mutual funds. This requires a course taught at the stock exchange (I think). I believe the cost is $3,000 or more.

The industry needs good certified planners. I doubt they exist. If I found one, I'd hire them. The best information I get about retirement planning are obscure articles written by accountants who tell you the truth. Ain't no money in telling the truth these days.

Primerica is a financial Amway. Make your own judgment on that. You MUST work full time in the industry or you will lose your CFP certification. A friend of a friend tried this out but it didn't go anywhere. It's a tough sell.

One idea you might consider is selling those scholarship plans for kids. Honestly, it is one of the best investments I made. Conservative and reliable and not really all that expensive. I don't know how much money you would make, but I think you would sleep well at night.
 

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Here's something that some top advisors do (these guys are Chairman's Club Members):


- When clients sign on, he sends them a welcome letter along with a binder in which to keep statements, annual reviews, correspondence, etc.
- One week later, he calls to be sure that they have received the confirmation of their initial purchase or transfer in the mail and to ensure that there are no questions on these.
- A month out, he calls again to check in, just to be sure that everything is okay.
- Just before the first statement goes out, he calls clients to let them know they’ll be receiving the statement and sets up a time to discuss it with them on the phone. He does this even though earlier, at the initial meeting with new clients, he does something which few advisors do. At this meeting, he walks clients through a sample statement, using a yellow highlighter to draw attention to key points. Having done that, he still calls after the first statement arrives to make sure everything is clear and that there are no questions.
- He calls personally to invite new clients to the quarterly sandwich luncheon which he hosts in his boardroom — talking about what’s happening in the market.
- Ninety days out, he schedules a short, 20 to 30 minute check up meeting. That meeting can take place at either his or his client’s office or the client’s home - he starts the meeting by asking the clients to complete a short five question report card on how he’s doing, focusing on how he’s delivered on his commitments, quality and frequency of contact, how any questions or problems have been addressed and their overall satisfaction. Without exception, he gets very high ratings on all of these - in effect, he has dispelled any doubts that clients might have had about whether they’ve made the right decision.
- At the end of the check up meeting, the advisor does one final thing. When clients first signed on, he talked about what they could expect in terms of the frequency of contact - let’s suppose that the clients agreed that an annual meeting and quarterly phone calls in between made sense. The difficulty is that the early experience has raised client expectations - what the advisor now has to do is to reset expectations of contact to a sustainable level by reminding clients that the next meeting will be in nine months and that they will get a call from him in three months (although he is, of course, always available to take their calls).


I post this to point out that in order to be a successful advisor, you need to realize that you are running your own business. You may be employed by firm X, but your success is predicated on your actions and no one else's.

Being an advisor is not easy. (See above.) In addition to general client management, you need to understand markets and investing and be able to make recommendations that are suitable to the individual investor. You also need to be able to land new clients. Keep in mind that as people become wealthier their needs change and generally become more complicated. So you need to change along with their needs. Don't think you can take the basic courses and that's it; you will need to push yourself to learn on a more or less continuous basis.

Being an advisor can be lucrative. But it's not easy to be a good financial advisor. There are thousands of advisors out there; in order to stand out you need to differentiate yourself which means you need to be better than the next guy. It's not impossible, but it's not easy.
 

squash500

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ml said:
You MUST be a CFP to sell mutual funds
I could be wrong, but all you need to sell mutual funds is a mutual funds license and a company such as a bank to sponsor you:) .

A CFP is a great thing to have but not necessary when just starting out in a financial career.
 

FailsW0rth

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You only need your IFIC License to sell mutual funds.

Dont go into it. Only means more competition for me :p

Honestly, you better hurry soon. The way the market is headed..... god help us all .
 

squash500

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FW said:
Honestly, you better hurry soon. The way the market is headed..... god help us all .
That's for sure:) . One day financials is up and energy is down and then vice versa?
 

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Its a sales job and that's it. You are trained to sniff money and then have the educational tools as well the appropriate government licensing to haul the money into IG. You will have to work long hours if you are now a poor smuck whose friends and family are poor or don't like you. If now you are in social circles that have money and are willing to let you handle it for them then you will work less hours. At the end of the day you will only make money from what you sell. The chances of survival and success are less than half of one person out of every five who come into the business after 5 years. Great rewards for the very few. Look into the mirror and seriously ask yourself if you would trust your money to the guy you are looking at who currently has minimal experience but great hopes. Guys with serious money will likely know much more than you and you will have to gain the skills to get that money away from wherever its sitting. Bon chance!
 

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My very best friend, Crazy Bull, armed with an MBA from an Ivy League university started out as a financial analyst, financial planner and is now president of his own hedge fund company and makes north of $10MM annually. However, he didn't always make this kind of money but a good financial planner can make upward of $500,000 annually.
 

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And don't forget about all of the tree-fort politics, and grade-school popularity contests that are part-and-parcel with this game.
 

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squash500 said:
I could be wrong, but all you need to sell mutual funds is a mutual funds license and a company such as a bank to sponsor you:) .
More or less correct. You need to pass the "Canadian Securities Course", which costs a few hundred bucks and will take you a month or two. Then you need to be sponsored by a properly compliant fund company. At that point you are a registered member of the Mutual Funds Dealers Association and you are legal to sell funds to the public.

However I would say you *should* be a CFP in order to sell mutual funds. The catch is that becoming a CFP I believe requries some work experience as well as some certification, so essentially you have to start working in the industry without the designation and earn it while working.

That probably means that the first few years are pretty lean as you lack an important qualification that is necessary for people to trust you enough to give you their money.

As a result most people start in other jobs in the financial industry until they've got the requisite certifications and experience to get the designation, before setting out on their own.

It's a tough business to get into, and one in which the majority of people earn next to nothing--but all keep beavering away in the hopes of some day becoming one of the privileged few who earn absolutely astronomical incomes.
 

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If you are academically smart and self-motivated I would seriously recommend that you look into the CFA designation. It takes several years to get, but you are much more likely to land one of the jobs that pays the big bucks with a CFA than you are with a CFP.

The CFA is a hard program, and one that takes several years (three exams, you are allowed to challenge one per year, most people don't pass every time and take 4-5 years to complete).

However it's a very credible certification once you have it and would position you well for many jobs in the financial sector, some of them fairly high earning.

Of course like everything not every CFA gets rich, there's no such thing as a certification that is guaranteed to make you rich, like anything it depends on you at the end of the day more than it depends on the parchments you've collected.
 
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