I really don't care about which method of execution was used (I'm generally against the death penalty) but executing a 17 year old slave labourer after a half-assed trial is a concern. That isn't an Islam thing but because it's a massively corrupt country run by the rich.
Inhumane or what!! Sri Lankan woman sentenced to die in Saudi Arabia is beheaded.
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Actually save for the psychological stress, I'm not sure that it is that brutal.death by beheading? Inhumane and brutal!!!
What I have a significant problem with is her trial! For instance: she had not had access to lawyers during her pre-trial interrogation, no attention was paid to the fact that she stated that she was forced into signing a confession. Certainly scant attention was paid to her statement that the child choked, rather than that she had strangled him.
No method of execution is humane.
Beheading, even instantaneously via guillotine operating without flaw, can leave the head alive and conscious for 5-10 seconds. Usually, shock stuns the victim until death ensures moments later, but not always. Electric chairs do not always kill on the first attempt and, even if they do, it can take the condemned many seconds to die (longer than beheading). There are also stories of malfunctions and the condemned's hair being set alight with repeated shocks. Hanging does not always snap the neck (resulting in slow strangling) and you can live as long with a broken neck and crushed wind pipe as you can having been beheaded. Lethal injection is, in theory, the best, since the first drugs administered are intended to knock the condemned out before the next set paralyze breathing (etc). However, if death is delayed due to human error or the condemned having a higher than expected drug tolerance, the effects of the first drug can wear out resulting in the condemned dying in agony.
I don't see that much difference in the amount of suffering inflicted. Executions are all barbaric.
Beheading, even instantaneously via guillotine operating without flaw, can leave the head alive and conscious for 5-10 seconds. Usually, shock stuns the victim until death ensures moments later, but not always. Electric chairs do not always kill on the first attempt and, even if they do, it can take the condemned many seconds to die (longer than beheading). There are also stories of malfunctions and the condemned's hair being set alight with repeated shocks. Hanging does not always snap the neck (resulting in slow strangling) and you can live as long with a broken neck and crushed wind pipe as you can having been beheaded. Lethal injection is, in theory, the best, since the first drugs administered are intended to knock the condemned out before the next set paralyze breathing (etc). However, if death is delayed due to human error or the condemned having a higher than expected drug tolerance, the effects of the first drug can wear out resulting in the condemned dying in agony.
I don't see that much difference in the amount of suffering inflicted. Executions are all barbaric.
Imagine you were to be beheaded tomorrow. How the hell would you sleep? What goes through the mind of a person who knows they're about to be killed?
Give this shithole of a country another 100 years before their oil runs out and they start looking for foreign aid. That's when they'll stop these barbaric acts, when they are at the mercy of the West.
Give this shithole of a country another 100 years before their oil runs out and they start looking for foreign aid. That's when they'll stop these barbaric acts, when they are at the mercy of the West.
You have a point there.We can shit on SA all we want, but we will spend more time talking about which gas guzzling German car will be our next purchase, and where we will land after our next 10 hour flight, all that crap. We all consume Saudi energy, directly or indirectly. We all suck, in terms of trading our own comfort and fun while humanity suffers on the other side of the planet. Me included, I suck. So do you.
Yes and no.I really don't care about which method of execution was used (I'm generally against the death penalty) but executing a 17 year old slave labourer after a half-assed trial is a concern. That isn't an Islam thing but because it's a massively corrupt country run by the rich.
The Saudis practice a severe form of Islam called Wahhabism. These are the crazy fuckers who fly planes into buildings, and cut off heads for no reason. I like to call them "Islamo Fascists" because that's exactly what they are. Islam definitely factors in on their behaviour.
Nothing wrong with that.
If you know the law and you commit the crime, you know what your getting yourself into.
Ultimately it all leads too death.
It's when you didn't commit the crime but are sentenced that really sucks.
We can shit on SA all we want, but we will spend more time talking about which gas guzzling German car will be our next purchase, and where we will land after our next 10 hour flight, all that crap. We all consume Saudi energy, directly or indirectly. We all suck, in terms of trading our own comfort and fun while humanity suffers on the other side of the planet. Me included, I suck. So do you.
well said. after reading this thread, posting in indignation, the average terbite will go back to eating nachos and slurping on their coke. fundamentaly do we care about human rights, democracy and treatment of women? very few are willing to do more than talk.
I think hypocrisy is officially one of the main qualities that a western person (or maybe even any person) should possess to get ahead in life.Is anyone going to mention the hypocrites who wear running shoes made by starving children who are whipped if they do not make enough of them; and then say oh terrible terrible inhumanity?
I am not even sure whether it still has negative connotations.
I think hypocrisy is officially one of the main qualities that a western person (or maybe even any person) should possess to get ahead in life.
I am not even sure whether it still has negative connotations.
We are eliminating 15 positions in a reorg in the spring. The people do not report to me, but I have worked with them all quite extensively. I was asked to provide a written evaluation on all of them. We can move three of them into alternate types of work. I went through all the business skills and so on, but commented on the integrity and charachter of all 15. 8 are qualified to retain. But I suggested 4 candidates only, based on the added criteria of charachter.
Charachter matters, so hypocrisy still has negative connotations and has a price.
Well said, Mister.Is anyone going to mention the hypocrites who wear running shoes made by starving children who are whipped if they do not make enough of them; and then say oh terrible terrible inhumanity?
+ 1..We are eliminating 15 positions in a reorg in the spring. The people do not report to me, but I have worked with them all quite extensively. I was asked to provide a written evaluation on all of them. We can move three of them into alternate types of work. I went through all the business skills and so on, but commented on the integrity and charachter of all 15. 8 are qualified to retain. But I suggested 4 candidates only, based on the added criteria of charachter.
Charachter matters, so hypocrisy still has negative connotations and has a price.
So true.We can shit on SA all we want, but we will spend more time talking about which gas guzzling German car will be our next purchase, and where we will land after our next 10 hour flight, all that crap. We all consume Saudi energy, directly or indirectly. We all suck, in terms of trading our own comfort and fun while humanity suffers on the other side of the planet. Me included, I suck. So do you.
