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fridrikk said:
Lemme tell ya she had predator written all over her face and I kid you not.
Predator???? :confused: What interview were you watching???

She looked like a broken woman with a sagging face and scared out of her wits.
That was my take on her
 

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saw it in french and boy was the translation screwed

Because I am bi-lingual I watched the Radio-Canada transmission with out the aid of the translation sub titles. When you actually listen to Karla Teale (when the hell will they get her name right) during the interview you can see that she is remorseful. Only at two points in the conversation did she become agiated, both were regarding her "prison friends", you could really tell that this hit a nerve.

The rest of the time she appeared to be a worn out woman, who is unable to cope with what is happening to her.

I don't defend Teale's actions, but I am one of those that find her existence to be pity. As she stated, she was only 17 years old, in love, with a con man, who even conned her parents and everyone else around them, when this all started. I find it quite palusable that she could have manipulated by the likes of Paul Teale (Benardo). Look at the number of women who enter into the sex trade because of love or fear.

I think the media needs to let her alone, and if she is as evil as they say, she will reoffend in someway, thus giving the courts the opportunity to label her a dangerous offender..
 

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I saw it as well. I will never understand her actions (thank God), and I will not forgive her. She is a murderer of the coldest kind. It is a damn shame that the justice system failed, she should rot in jail for all eternity. But hey, the courts said she has paid her debt to society and she is a free woman, so be it. :mad:
 

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ham2004 said:
I don't defend Teale's actions, but I am one of those that find her existence to be pity. As she stated, she was only 17 years old, in love, with a con man, who even conned her parents and everyone else around them, when this all started. I find it quite palusable that she could have manipulated by the likes of Paul Teale (Benardo). Look at the number of women who enter into the sex trade because of love or fear.

I think the media needs to let her alone, and if she is as evil as they say, she will reoffend in someway, thus giving the courts the opportunity to label her a dangerous offender..
I`m likely one of the few who agrees with you. How many rapists and child molesters are routinely released from prison with far shorter sentences than hers without any public outrage; but an attractive woman who was at worst a scared, manipulated accomplice in a horrific crime gets released and everybody talks about getting her. Had it been a male buddy of Bernardo`s who aided in the crimes and got the same short sentence, would his release get this much media attention?

Speaking of the media, is there a bigger bunch of hypocrites anywhere? Specifically the Sun Media chain. They constantly write about what a horrible person she is and how wrong it is for anybody to attempt to profit from the case (i.e. movies, documentaries), but they`ve splashed her on the front page how many times over the last 12 years for trivial reasons (i.e. she had a lesbian lover in prison- I guess that proves she`s evil). Yet despite their hatred for her, you can damn well bet had she offered them the interview they would have jumped at it; probably printing as a five-part series that they`d heavily promote a week beforehand.
 

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The courts had nothing to do with it...

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I saw it as well. I will never understand her actions (thank God), and I will not forgive her. She is a murderer of the coldest kind. It is a damn shame that the justice system failed, she should rot in jail for all eternity. But hey, the courts said she has paid her debt to society and she is a free woman, so be it. :mad:
Mrs. Teale availed herself of her legal rights, she got one hell of a smart lawyer, offered up her husband as the main course and acted like dessert. The deal was made long before she got to the court stage.

If we really want to lay blame for the foul up, lets look at the police forces in Toronto, Halton and Niagara, no communication, no assistance, and absolutely no farking clue.

Justice didn't fail, for she is impartial, the people who served her failed.
 

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ham2004 said:
If we really want to lay blame for the foul up, lets look at the police forces in Toronto, Halton and Niagara, no communication, no assistance, and absolutely no farking clue.
Agreed, 100%. I guess they're too busy catching people driving 55 km in a 50 zone.
 

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ottawasub said:
I`m likely one of the few who agrees with you. How many rapists and child molesters are routinely released from prison with far shorter sentences than hers without any public outrage;
You're comparing rapists and child molesters to a woman who took the lives of three girls?

ottawasub said:
but an attractive woman who was at worst a scared, manipulated accomplice in a horrific crime
How do you know this? Right, if there's anyone whose credible it would be a woman who killed three girls. You ever think she's playing the role of the poor manipulated woman so the public has a little mercy on her?



ottawasub said:
Had it been a male buddy of Bernardo`s who aided in the crimes and got the same short sentence, would his release get this much media attention?
Have you always hated men?

Do you like Karla Homolka?

Would you have been happier if Karla Homolka killed three boys instead of three girls?
 

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the rusty tromb said:
You're comparing rapists and child molesters to a woman who took the lives of three girls?

How do you know this? Right, if there's anyone whose credible it would be a woman who killed three girls. You ever think she's playing the role of the poor manipulated woman so the public has a little mercy on her?

Have you always hated men?

Do you like Karla Homolka?

Would you have been happier if Karla Homolka killed three boys instead of three girls?
A little over the top here aren't we, do you two know each other, TRT, are you two related or do generally just go off like this.

I think that Ottawasub is entitled to her opinion (sorry if I get gender specfic here) She may very well have some insight we don't. But calling her a man hater is really going all out.

Interestingly enough, does the name Emanual Jacks mean anything to you, the creep that killed him is out of prison, and that include homosexual rape as well as murder..
 

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ham2004 said:
A little over the top here aren't we, do you two know each other, TRT, are you two related or do generally just go off like this.
Not really, considering she seems to be sticking up for a convicted killer.

ham2004 said:
She may very well have some insight we don't.
Maybe Ottawa Sub is letting Karla stay with her, or better yet, maybe Ottawa Sub is Karla Homolka. How fucked up would it be if Karla Homolka was a terb member?

ham2004 said:
But calling her a man hater is really going all out.

ottawasub said:
Had it been a male buddy of Bernardo`s who aided in the crimes and got the same short sentence, would his release get this much media attention?
You're right. Judging on her quote here it's obvious she doesn't hate men.


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ham2004 said:
nterestingly enough, does the name Emanual Jacks mean anything to you, the creep that killed him is out of prison, and that include homosexual rape as well as murder..
And your point is?

I was saying that it doesn't make sense to compare a rapist and child molester to a murderer. All your saying is this guy is both a rapist and a murderer.
 

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You're comparing rapists and child molesters to a woman who took the lives of three girls?
So it`s ok to rape women and molest children as long as you don`t kill them? Actually,I think they`re all scum. I was under the impression that Bernardo killed the girls. Let me guess: even though he raped several women before meeting her and she had no record, she was the ringleader.



How do you know this? Right, if there's anyone whose credible it would be a woman who killed three girls. You ever think she's playing the role of the poor manipulated woman so the public has a little mercy on her?
The only person who claimed she participated in the killings was Bernardo. Is that credible? There`s no excuses, but it`s also very easy to tell a woman who is in an abusive, controlling relationship what she should have done. Were all those bruises from the flashlight beating self-inflicted for sympathy?





Have you always hated men?
In another thread I was accused of hating women. Now apparently I hate men. What`s next? I hate animals? I`m racist?
The point I was making was had it been a male friend of Bernardo`s instead of a young woman acting as an accomplice, the media wouldn`t be giving it nearly as much attention. It`s a valid point.

Do you like Karla Homolka?
No. I was just pointing out she wasn`t as bad as Bernardo. If you say that rapists and child molesters aren`t as bad as her, does that mean you like rapists and child molesters?

Would you have been happier if Karla Homolka killed three boys instead of three girls?
Why would that make me happier? Oh yeah, because I hate men. Sorry I forgot. What happened to those girls was horrible, but how anyone can the entire blame on her is beyond me. The way the media is feeding this, it`s a guarantee that some redneck yokel will track her down and kill her. If she chooses to stay in Canada she is almost certainly a dead woman. And it will be tough to shed any tears, after all she had a longer life than those three unfortunate girls.

But when society starts condoning vigilante killings, that sets a very dangerous precedent. Eventually some religious nut who feels abortion is murder will think it`s justified for him to hunt down and kill a woman because she had one.
 

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ottawasub said:
So it`s ok to rape women and molest children as long as you don`t kill them? Actually,I think they`re all scum.
Not at all. My point is that rape and child molestation can't be comapred to killing someone.

ottawasub said:
I was under the impression that Bernardo killed the girls.
Key word here being "impression". Based on the videos people are saying Karla was just as cold blooded and involved in the murders as Paul Bernardo was.

ottawasub said:
Let me guess: even though he raped several women before meeting her and she had no record, she was the ringleader.
Never said she was the ring leader.All I'm saying is that she played a large part in the murders of these girls.




ottawasub said:
The only person who claimed she participated in the killings was Bernardo. Is that credible?
Who else witnessed the murders first hand? Paul Beranardo is the only one that can comment on it. If anything, I'd believe Bernardo over Homolka. He's already behind bars for life, and has nothing to gain.

ottawasub said:
Were all those bruises from the flashlight beating self-inflicted for sympathy?
I wouldn't put it past her.










ottawasub said:
The point I was making was had it been a male friend of Bernardo`s instead of a young woman acting as an accomplice, the media wouldn`t be giving it nearly as much attention. It`s a valid point.

I just don't see the point in saying this.



ottawasub said:
No. I was just pointing out she wasn`t as bad as Bernardo.
And how exactly do you know she's not as bad as Bernardo? The only thing Karla Homolka is sorry about is that she was caught.

ottawasub said:
If you say that rapists and child molesters aren`t as bad as her, does that mean you like rapists and child molesters?
No, what I'm saying is that when you kill someone it's worse than raping or molesting someone.



ottawasub said:
it`s a guarantee that some redneck yokel will track her down and kill her.
We can only hope.You would have to assume if Karla Homolka gets mudered her murderer would be considered a national hero.
 

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rusty why don't you relax. ottawasub has a right to his/her own opinion whether it may be right or wrong
I'm totally relaxed.

I just found it disturbing how in her original post she seemed to be sticking up for Karla Homolka.
 

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I wish she won her injunction just so I wouldnt have to see her in the papers and on the web every day. I'm sick of seeing her. She is like some kind of a macabre celebrity. If this interest keeps up she may smarten up and find a way to capitalize on it.
 

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I agree with ottawasub in that this would not be such news if Karla was a male.

I also feel that its time to move on, getting really sick of the Sun and other tabloids on this story...Here is a story I would find interesting, but the papers would never cover it because it would have to involve actual work,

Where are all the fuck ups today?and how many times since the Bernardo case have they fucked up? and have their fuck ups caused more deaths? from the scarborough cops to toronto cops to st catherine police force to the prosecution.

Karla's involvement was sickening and she deserves everything she gets, but it is my understanding Karla and her Lawyer took a deal that was OFFERED to them. They call it the deal with the Devil but that said who or what do you call those who offered the deal?.."lazy,sick,overpaid, fuckups,no sharing info with collegues,bastards"?

I am sick of seeing the laywer for the unfortunate families Danton(sp) with his face on every news cast whinning, why is he not speaking out about the powers that be who offered this deal, instead of spewing off about what he thinks Karla will do, or how she looked at him in court
 

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wildchilds said:
I am sick of seeing the laywer for the unfortunate families Danton(sp) with his face on every news cast whinning, why is he not speaking out about the powers that be who offered this deal, instead of spewing off about what he thinks Karla will do, or how she looked at him in court
The vast majority of serial killers are male; it follows that the females, ie. Homolka, Wuornos et al get more attention because they are "freaks among freaks", so to speak.

You're bang on about the fact that Karla's deal had to be offered; it was, & those who did so should be accountable. Ditto with the police who missed the tapes in the search of the Bernardo house.

Danson isn't doing anything because there's nothing that CAN be done. His media antics are playing to the court of public opinion, IMO and nothing more.
 

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Maybe this is stating the obvious but IMO the fascination with Karla has a lot to do with our fascination with killer couples. From Gun Crazy, to the Honeymoon Killers, to Bonnie and Clyde to Mickey and Mallory to Martin Sheen and Sissy Spacek in Badlands we've had a rich tradition of glorifying the exploits of muderous duo's so in love with each other that'd they'd do anything to fulfill the others twisted perversions.

The fact that Karla was young blonde and hot when the crimes were committed adds to it so the fact that there is going to be a lot of buzz around her release (the sun media chain and CanWest Global being the prime culprits) is no surprise. We, the public, eat this shit up while the media sluts proclaim they are doing this to "keep the public safe" while desperately trying to sneak in more and more details about what it was exactly the Paul and Karla DID to the women they tortured, raped and murdered.

NO safe words. That's the basis of their relationship. no safe words -- everything is on the table. And judging from some of the comment in the other thread about KH -- "I'd like to fuck her becuase I could do things to her that I can't do to a normal woman" or words to that affect was exactly what attracted Paul to Karla and vice versa. It is a pretty normal human reaction if you allow yourself to surrender to darkness.

And that's what the two of them did. they created a world without rules and lived like outlaws. It is both horrifying and strangly romantic and I think that's what keeps up interested.
 
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