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"Iran cannot have nukes" Trump warns

Frankfooter

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Trump is proposing (agreeing with Israel about) a second Nabka, removing the rest of the Palestinians from the Gaza strip, so it can be developed into beachfront luxury resorts.
The countries around Israel already host 5 million Palestinian refugees that Israel refuses to allow to return to their homeland.
No country will take more again.

 
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My point is that there was no expansionism from 1948-67 because Israel was not under severe attack.

It's a direct cause and effect situation.

No Arab aggression between 1948-67 resulted in no loss of land. Repeated Arab aggression (cause) starting with the 6 day war in 1967 until current time has resulted in repeated loss of land (effect). Your maps bare out my point.

There's a lesson in there for you.
There was expansionism. NOtice that big Green blob that vanished. Are you visiually impaired? Or do you see with your heart? 🤣👌
 
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Trump is proposing (agreeing with Israel about) a second Nabka, removing the rest of the Palestinians from the Gaza strip, so it can be developed into beachfront luxury resorts.
Isn't the 4 Seasons owned by the Sharp family.
 

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The countries around Israel already host 5 million Palestinian refugees that Israel refuses to allow to return to their homeland.
No country will take more again.
And do you think that Palestinians will accept that as a legitimate excuse for their brother hood to abandon them. "We'll help you, but only until it becomes inconvenient for us." LOL.
 

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There was expansionism. NOtice that big Green blob that vanished. Are you visiually impaired? Or do you see with your heart? 🤣👌
None from 1948-1967. Anything after that was the cause and effect of Arab aggression towards Israel.
 

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And do you think that Palestinians will accept that as a legitimate excuse for their brother hood to abandon them. "We'll help you, but only until it becomes inconvenient for us." LOL.
Abandon them? They've been hosting 5 million refugees that Israel forced out of their homes.
Its Israel that abandoned them.

trump thinks he can pay Egypt to take Palestinians on but the rest of the world isn't as stupid as he is.
 
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There was a long list of Israeli massacres and pogroms during that time, right after the zionist Nabka.

He knows. He’ll never admit it. He’s decided to be a useful lying idiot.
 
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The JCPOA allowed full inspections to confirm Iran wasn't building nukes. Trump killed this at the behest of AIPAC and right wing hawks in order to declare Iran a rogue nuclear state to justify attack. The irony of one of the world's only 3 non-NPT signatories killing another nuclear treaty to justify war is lost on you.

There still is no evidence that Iran is building nukes and if you really wanted to make sure they weren't you would demand the US/Israel end sanctions on Iran and renew the JCPOA.
1) Iran didn't allow full inspections and,
2) Your conspiracies about Jewish control are just insane. You could include the far more powerful evangelical lobby and just say pro-Israel lobby but instead you just push antisemitic hatred and blame jews for everything.

But you're happy to back Iran simply because don't give a shit about anything other than your Jew obsession.
 

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I am talking about what they were granted in the UN plan in 1947, they started the genocide before the ink was properly dry on the paper.
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What a surprise, you guys can't accept a thread critical of Iran so you need to spew hatred about Israel.
 

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The Brits had no right to give Palestine away to a foreign colonial movement.
As JFK said, before he was assassinated.
And again pushing the insane conspiracy theories that Jews killed JFK.

I know you don't care about reality but the Peace of Paris broke up the Ottoman Empire into nation states. Jews were around 1% of the Ottoman Empire so why is it unacceptable for them to get 0.5% of Ottoman land? Oh I forgot, Jews are involved so you need to spew bullshit just to justify your racism.

All you are doing is once again supporting Hamas' goal of the ethnic cleansing of Jews.
 

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And again pushing the insane conspiracy theories that Jews killed JFK.

I know you don't care about reality but the Peace of Paris broke up the Ottoman Empire into nation states. Jews were around 1% of the Ottoman Empire so why is it unacceptable for them to get 0.5% of Ottoman land? Oh I forgot, Jews are involved so you need to spew bullshit just to justify your racism.

All you are doing is once again supporting Hamas' goal of the ethnic cleansing of Jews.
That is one wacko antisemitic post
 
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You are assuming years of there being a deal in place would result in the same state now that Trump created having torn up the deal.
I think there is very little reason to make that assumption.
Based on Iran's political activity in the last decade including before Trump withdrew, there is absolutely zero reason to believe Iran would be willing to keep their massive centrifuge capacity mothballed and zero indication that they were willing to explain to the IAEA about the undeclared sites where nuclear material was discovered.

I find it expected that talking heads on news channels and rando tweets to be extremely superficial in their analysis of international relations and instead boil everything down to what the US does but Iran's geopolitical aims have been consistent since 1979. There are things to blame the US, UK, etc. for but it is naive to ignore Iran's choices and actions.
 
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