Is ET here ?

[OddSox]

They may not disturb us much like we don't disturb national parks or forests.

Heh! Ever kick an ant hill when you were a kid? So far we've been lucky...

 

[Sammy the Bull]

The fact that you are unsure means you believe it is possible.

Anything is possible, but I'll believe it when I see it. Some people are too gullible and will believe anything.

Also remember a lot of people selling these UFO books are making lots of money. Similar to how psychics make a lot of $$$ duping people

 

[gramage]

Anything is not possible - I can't walk on water, unless it's frozen.

Mathematically, life on other worlds is likely, not just possible.

So it's possible that we've been visited.

I believe we have. There are so many good accounts of true UFOs - that which cannot be explained away as natural phenomenon.

The leap between "is there life on other worlds" and "is their intelligent life that uses technology the same way we do (there's every possibility they wouldn't) has developed the technology for space travel, is near enough to our planet that travel to it wouldn't be a suicide mission, and is able to do all of this covertly enough that nothing but the occasional blurry photograph is ever detected of it, is significant.

 

[Bobzilla]

But answer me this, when Colombus discovered Americas whats the first things he did??
He introduced himself to the locals, right?? If there is life on Mars whats the first thing NASA would do?? Contact it, right??

If UFO's are here and buzzing around in the sky, how come out of all the possible civilizations in our galaxy has there not been one yet to land at CNN headquarters for an interview??? Answer me that please

If (and note that I say "if") there are ET's here, comparing their potential behaviour to a human is not logical. Any alien race is likely to be too different from us to count on their acting the way we would in a given situation. The vast majority of people can't even think of our history without contaminating it with our current values; expecting an extraterrestrial to act like we do is folly at best.

 

[HAMSTER INSPECTOR]

Here is my theory. The US governemt encourges the notion the UFO exist. It makes it eazy for them to explain test flights of military aircraft that they are developing like the Blackhawk. I saw a interview of a person who saw what he claimed was a UFO. he said that he saw it appear and hover then disappear and reappear at another location in the sky at top speeds. Would a lazer projection explain such a sighting. At rock concerts and fireworks shows I have seen lazer projections in the sky, if amateurs can do this imagine what the US governments can do. Now along with the radar proof aircraft like the Blackhawk, imagine if in a time of war the US military projected massive amounts of Blackhawks in the sky. What is the enemy to think?

 

[CapitalGuy]

Any Alien SP's? Please post links. I am no longer satisfied with just the three holes human women have to offer. I need a fourth hole.

 

[Big Rig]

If ET is here and one government knows it then do not most of them ? unless ET is pro USA


This means all the governments have got together in histories greatest cover up

Highly unlikely when even the friendliest of governments cannot agree on interest rates

 

[Sammy the Bull]

Here is my theory. The US governemt encourges the notion the UFO exist. It makes it eazy for them to explain test flights of military aircraft that they are developing like the Blackhawk

Then how do you explain people have been seeing UFO's throughout the centuries??
AFAIK the US wasnt flying experimental aircraft in the 1800's.

Another theory is UFO's are really us from the future. Even Einstein said time travel is theoretically possible

 

[Yoga Face]

What is amazing is that only 25% of Terbs do not believe


The rest do or are unsure

Seems roughly in line with the non-terb public


Think about this


We are discussing the 2ND most incredible event in history behind evolution itself unless you believe in Christ or the prophets

Can anyone think of a more fascinating event than a real ET ?


Need more votes for a better sample group though

 

[MissCroft]

In the grand scheme of things, we're all aliens.

 

[Sammy the Bull]

Probably the reason why people only see UFO's flying and not landing:

Alien A: "Can you believe what savages these human beings are??"
Alien B: "Dont land........keep going, keep going!!!"

 

[Yoga Face]

The reason they don't is because they are WAY more advanced than we are and aren't barbarians like we can be.

Much like some scientists care for wildlife or the environment, or as Buddhist monks are pacifists.

Maybe but I doubt it

Darwinian evolution is a given anywhere I suspect

We are the product of our evolution which is kill or be killed and only the best fit (not the strongest or smartest) shall survive

So it is in their nature to exploit and control as it is in ours

If we found aliens we could exploit and get rich from we would exploit them


Why care for an environment that is not yours ?

As far as Buddhist I see no compelling reason to believe they would have evolved into that philosophy

But if they are here and have not exploited us yet that could mean they are concerned about what will happen if they reveal themselves which indicates compassion


Do you think they know who did JFK ?

 

[Yoga Face]

Another theory is UFO's are really us from the future. Even Einstein said time travel is theoretically possible

Which would be more amazing ?

ET or time travelers ?


I vote for time travelers

Even Capt Janeway could not deal with the paradoxes

 

[blueman]

not so

Sorry but when you mix movies with reality you're grasping at straws
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Consider this,

Motorola has publicly credited Star Trek with giving them the notion to develop the cell phone.

Japanese scientists have had good success creating an Invisibility Cloak (see youtube) which of course came from the Harry Potter books.

MIT have been developing a Transporter for several years now (again Star Trek)

Another group (name escapes me) has been working on a Replicator (Star Trek)

The idea of man on the moon, sending people into space, colonizing Mars, etc have all come from the minds of Sci Fi writers. Then some dude at Nasa, MIT, or where ever starts fantasing about turning fiction into reality.

There are many more examples of this but that's what I can think of off the top of my head.

 

[CapitalGuy]

Sorry but when you mix movies with reality you're grasping at straws
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Consider this,

Motorola has publicly credited Star Trek with giving them the notion to develop the cell phone.

Japanese scientists have had good success creating an Invisibility Cloak (see youtube) which of course came from the Harry Potter books.

MIT have been developing a Transporter for several years now (again Star Trek)

Another group (name escapes me) has been working on a Replicator (Star Trek)

The idea of man on the moon, sending people into space, colonizing Mars, etc have all come from the minds of Sci Fi writers. Then some dude at Nasa, MIT, or where ever starts fantasing about turning fiction into reality.

There are many more examples of this but that's what I can think of off the top of my head.

What I find funny is that many of the "inventions" that you credit to Star Trek, were earlier presented by more classical fiction writers (Jules Verne, T.R.R. Tolkien). You need to broaden your horizons. Hey, did you know that there is now a book version of Lord of the Rings available....

The point of the other post was not that popular media is unable to provide inspiration to real science or social development, its that those who rely on TV or movie ideas in discussion of serious matters, probably don't have much more to draw on.