Is the US still No.1?

danmand

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Is the US still No.1?
"Just in case you wander into a voting booth one day, there are some things you should know," Will McAvoy, the fictional news anchor in the new US television drama, The Newsroom, tells a college student in the opening episode of the show.

"One of 'em is there's absolutely no evidence to support the statement that we're the greatest country in the world. We're seventh in literacy, 27th in math, 22nd in science, 49th in life expectancy, 178th in infant mortality, third in median household income, number four in labour force and number four in exports."

He continues: "We lead the world in only three categories: number of incarcerated citizens per capita, number of adults who believe angels are real and defence spending, where we spend more than the next 26 countries combined, 25 of whom are allies."

McAvoy concludes his rant: "Now, none of this is the fault of a 20-year-old college student, but you, nonetheless, are, without a doubt, a member of the worst period generation period ever period, so when you ask what makes us the greatest country in the world, I don't know what the f**k you're talking about!"

The United States of America is at a crossroads. US global supremacy is being challenged - politically, economically and militarily. And the person many Americans want to blame is the president who promised them change.

It has been four years since hope officially arrived in the White House, in the form of an eloquent, black liberal named Barack Hussein Obama. But the latter's failure to turn the economy around, tackle the jobs crisis or rein in the bankers has led to disillusionment and even despair among his supporters.

Meanwhile, the new era of co-operation promised by Obama was torpedoed by a stubbornly intransigent and ideologically extreme Republican Party in Congress. The rise of the right-wing, anti-government Tea Party and the street protests of the left-wing, anti-capitalist Occupy Wall Street movement were perhaps the most visible symbols of how divided the US has become since 2008.

"As Americans head to the polls this November, their values and basic beliefs are more polarised along partisan lines than at any point in the past 25 years," noted a recent survey by the Pew Research Center.

Obama has antagonised liberals as well as conservatives. He has sanctioned six times as many drone strikes inside Pakistan as his Republican predecessor George W Bush that, according to the Bureau of Investigative Journalism, may have killed between 282 and 585 civilians.

Obama has even signed off on a law that permits the indefinite detention in military custody of US citizens suspected of being terrorists. As the leading US legal scholar Jonathan Turley has argued: "The election of Barack Obama may stand as one of the single most devastating events in our history for civil liberties."

Defenders of the US president point to his successes. Abroad, he ended the war in Iraq, set a date for withdrawal from Afghanistan and killed the most wanted man in history. At home, he pushed through health care reforms that had stymied Democratic presidents for decades and produced a bailout package that rescued the beleaguered US car industry. In the words of his vice president Joe Biden, thanks to Obama's policies, "Osama bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive".

But is this enough to secure him re-election for a second term? And whoever wins in November, Obama or the Republicans' Mitt Romney, is the job of the US president now simply to manage American decline?
 

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Haven't heard this one countless times over. I thought Japan (in the 80's) was supposed to have surpassed U.S. a long time ago.

I can't help but feel people are trying to play the law of averages. Say something enough times and hope eventually these b.s. prophecies will come to fruition.
More like state the facts often enough and eventually they'll sink in.
 

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What nation is the greatest on earth?

This is the third thread on this fictional rant....

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What nation is the greatest on earth?

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The rant is fictional, the facts are real.
 

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I'm sure they are, you didn't answer my question....

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I think it depends on what criteria you use for the greatest nation on Earth. Not everybody will use military power or military expenditure as the defining parameter.
 

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I'm begining to believe that you and C-M are part of the rant.
take it up with the OECD which have all the facts showing the U.S.A i the most dysfunctional in the developed world
 

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I think it depends on what criteria you use for the greatest nation on Earth. Not everybody will use military power or military expenditure as the defining parameter.
Summer games gold medals?
 

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You all Americans on this thread who refuse to answer the question on what criteria defines greatness must be all GOP's...........avoidance, filibustering, evasiveness, deflection and disengagement are all techniques that have been mastered by your comedic leader, Mitt, "no one has ever asked me to see my birth certificate", Romney.
 

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You all Americans on this thread who refuse to answer the question on what criteria defines greatness must be all GOP's...........avoidance, filibustering, evasiveness, deflection and disengagement are all techniques that have been mastered by your comedic leader, Mitt, "no one has ever asked me to see my birth certificate", Romney.
danmand (a Canadian) has made the point via a fictional rant, I simply asked if the US isn't #1 what country is... to this points it's been crickets from the Napoleon Complex brigade......

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I'm begining to believe that you and C-M are part of the rant.
I'm beginning to think you mistake GOP talking points for FACTS...:rolleyes:

The FACTS are the USA is imploding, all the results of GLOBALISM!!!....:(
 

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danmand (a Canadian) has made the point via a fictional rant, I simply asked if the US isn't #1 what country is... to this points it's been crickets from the Napoleon Complex brigade......

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Economically, China.
Health, freedom and happiness a few of the EU countries.
 

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What nation is the greatest on earth?

This is the third thread on this fictional rant....

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Does it make a difference what name slots into such a nebulous category? Why?

Surely only delusional chauvinists attach significance to such empty designations anyway; it was certainly the point of the rant.

I would think counting the things that were deficient in the US and resolving to correct them would be more realistic than counting the threads about it on TERB.

It is possible to be proudly patriotic and see that your country is imperfect, even grievously flawed. Denial makes it worse.
 

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This is the third thread on this fictional rant....
Coming from the one who fictionally ranted how Dubya Delivered Real Economic Performance!.....:rolleyes:
 
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