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These are the peole that support this movement....this is what we will be dealing more and more....fuck....
 
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Kautilya said:
Oh yeah for sure. Our values and their values don't align. That is okay. But to consider them evil, a death cult etc, because of a few terrorists is what I was referring to.

I have a Muslim friend who moved to Riyadh incidentally and he loves it because a) He is very religious and b) He says he loves the fact that there is no crime, no taxes etc., To each their own, but it isn't for me. But I won't hate anyone for being religious, devout or overtly conservative.

It is only a problem when they start hating on me lol.
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DOn't get me wrong...i made a lot of friends there...most arabs I met are fascinated with the western world....most would love to move...what I do find out from some are that most successful ones are the ones that enjoy being there...the working class not so much...I rarely discuss beliefs with the friends I made...I'm not really one who pry on other peoples lives...they do lecture me on the do's and donts...but there's always that feeling of walking on thin ice just because I'm mostly not savvy with their culture...
 
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Kautilya said:
Yeah but that is terrorist sympathizing. So hate on that guy. I would say the same about the guy with the Nazi flag, the guy with the confederate flag in the trucker convoy. They are just as dangerous - if not more dangerous, because in the west we are more likely to experience right wing extremism.

But there are plenty of Muslims in Canada who are peaceful and good citizens, who don't do that or support that for that matter. To call their entire culture(s) and religion a death cult, means you are saying that Islam is terrorism. That is Islamaphobia, Xenophobia and Racism all rolled into one.
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Is that an example of implicit bias and profiling? Yes it is, unless you have stats that show the majority of violent crimes are committed by right wing extremist.

I took a couple minutes. Presently Muslims make up 4.9% of Canadas population and 6% of incarcerated people. Christians are 53.3% of the population and 51.2% of of those incarcerated.
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federal corrections population by religion Canada 2022| Statista

This statistic shows the distribution of adults in federal correctional services in Canada in the fiscal year of 2022, by religion.
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Kautilya said:
That is Islamaphobia and racism. You need to change your views by educating yourself.
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Islam is a religion, not a race. That makes it a choice. It is also an authoritarian system of laws and governance that lessens women, advocates for killing gay people, and states that apostates are subject to the death penalty. It states that war is justified against all non believers. It is anti Western values pertaining to both human rights and commerce. Placing its belief system above individual liberty.

I fear it the same way I fear other authoritarian systems designed to subjugate people. The notion its racism is laughable. The notion of "islamophobia" is a lie. Its like saying Naziphobia.

If it was passive, and underwent a Reformation process to excise the concepts of Jihad, Martyrdom and other violent aspects it could be tolerated as a structured belief system. In its present form its a threat. To people.

And that IS the educated opinion.
 
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Kautilya said:
The fact that you characterize the ENTIRETY of Islam as an authoritarian death cult, that advocates killing of gay people, subjugation of women etc is ignorant, Islamaphobic, Xenophobic and Racist. That you double down on it shows that it is actually an illiterate opinion. Not an informed one.

Christianity and Judaism also advocate for killing of gay people. There are evangelicals and their equivalent conservative Jews who similarly advocate for killing gays, and subjugating women etc., Extremist elements in any religion, are authoritarian.

That does not make ALL Muslims, and the ENTIRE religion of Islam, a terrorist death cult. The majority of Muslims are peaceful people.

You also forget that there are different sects, practices within Islam. So yes, is the Salafist or Wahhabi version of Sunni Islam that groups like ISIS, Taliban and Al-Qaeda follow, severe and violent? Sure. They are hardline, puritanical.

Do the majority of Muslims live per those rules? No they do not.

So stop confusing your ignorance for knowledge.
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The majority of Muslims live under Sharia Law. That they approve of. If you want a real example in real time of what happens when Muslims gain a majority population look no futher than Indonesia and Aceh province.

And yes I agree other religions also are homophobic. And happily state they are wrong too. So what?

Muslim majority nation inevitably become theocracies or dictatorships. Its really that simple. I wish to live under neither. So I oppose its existence. The two major sects are at war with the world and eachother. You just haven't figured it out yet.
 
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Kautilya said:
No they do not. The majority of the Muslims in the world do not live under 100% Sharia Law. It is usually the case where a few laws reference Sharia, but it is not the kind that you find in Afghanistan imposed by the Taliban. And Sharia Law interpretations also differ.

You are again conflating extremist, hardline and puritanical versions of Islam and Sharia Law with regular peaceful interpretations and practices.

Saying they are "wrong" or their values do not align with me, is not what you are doing here.

You are being racist, xenophobic and islamaphobic by taking the worst elements of Islam and applying it to EVERYBODY.

That is like saying all white people are racist, because Butler1000 is racist.

Oh and btw, if you do not wish to live under a theocracy or a dictatorship, don't go to those countries. But you live in Canada. Why oppose anyone's existence while not even being impacted by life and culture somewhere else? That is as irrational, as your racism against Muslims is.

So this is your reason for supporting Israel. Not because you want good things for Palestinians by removing Hamas. But because it hurts the people that you don't like or have chosen to stereotype as less than human. Behind every right winger, there is a always a whole load of malice. Never good intentions. lol.
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I oppose it because the cult is expansionist. They tried to introduce Sharia Law in Ontario. Aceh Province in Indonesia has introduced Sharia law and its punishments. Iran? We can go on and on.

The end result will alway be extremist. That's the end game. The "Peace of Islam" is doctrine for, once everyone is Muslim, then there will be peace. That's the goal.

Ans again. Islam isn't a race. Its a choice.
 
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Butler1000 said:
I oppose it because the cult is expansionist. They tried to introduce Sharia Law in Ontario. Aceh Province in Indonesia has introduced Sharia law and its punishments. Iran? We can go on and on.

The end result will alway be extremist. That's the end game. The "Peace of Islam" is doctrine for, once everyone is Muslim, then there will be peace. That's the goal.

Ans again. Islam isn't a race. Its a choice.
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You are so well informed.

 
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