Israel Is Warned

[revolution]

The 8 'Canadians' killed, were Lebanese-Canadian.

If they were Christian, it's a tragedy, but they died for a good cause, because soon Lebanon will not be under control of the terrorist organization known as Hezbollah. Lebanese Christians support the military action against Hezbollah, they couldn't be happier.

 

[scouser1]

The 8 'Canadians' killed, were Lebanese-Canadian.

If they were Christian, it's a tragedy, but they died for a good cause, because soon Lebanon will not be under control of the terrorist organization known as Hezbollah. Lebanese Christians support the military action against Hezbollah, they couldn't be happier.

being able to read the Lebanese newspapers myself this Iranian created stunt has the backing of pretty much nobody in Lebanon including the Shia, what fool wants Israeli warplanes to destroy his house and kill his family members so the ayatollahs in Iran, and the rabbis in comfortable Jerusalem safety are dancing for joy.

 

[maxwellsmart]

Collateral Damage in Lebanon

IMHO, the majority of posts on this thread are levelheaded, informed and reasonable. IMO, the Israeli's had no option but to respond to a raid across international boundries (the Israel/Lebanon border) and kidnap of 2 citizens (the 2 soldiers). A country that does not defend its citizens against aggression like that is useless. The response was swift and extremely targeted: transportation infrastructure, energy infrastructure and the offices and personnel of the terrorist organization which infiltrated Israel. The collateral damage (a poor phrase for the tragic and unintended loss of lives of non-combatants) occurs because Hezbollah (as other terrrorist groups do) purposely locates their personnel/offices/training/weapons in civilian locations. The amazing thing is not that there has been collateral damage but that the Israeli's have been able to have such little collateral damage. They even warn the areas before attack so civilians can make preparations and leave. Contrast that with the acts of Hezbollah: The initiation of hostilities by the kidnapping across international boundaries (I agree with the post that suggested this was to divert attention from the inability of Hezbollah to meet its civil responsibilities in Lebanon); the subsequent unrestrained and unfocused shelling of residential neighborhoods in Nehariyah, Chaifa and others.
IMO, Israel will only respond enough to move Hezbollah away from the border enough to re-establish a buffer zone. They could have marched to Damascus a number of times in the past but that is not the agenda. Self-preservation is what the Israeli's want. Peace is what all but the muslim fundamentalists want.

 

[onthebottom]

If this was actually the case - I might even consider becoming an American

SHUDDER


bbk

It's never too late to upgrade

OTB

 

[red]

I do not understand the bombing of the beirut airport? but the rantings of cyrus are pure bigotry

 

[red]

Planes from Syria and Iran to deliever supplies to Hezbollah - burning down the airport seems like a good way to stop this.

is that right. they fly in weapons through an intl airport? i am asking not being sarcastic

 

[cyrus]

1. If the Hezbollah was civilized, they would have put the two kidnapped soldiers on trial for the alleged murders of a 100 (oh sorry, now you say it's 1000's) Lebaneese.
2. These soldiers were kidnapped BEFORE any attacks on Lebanon.
.....

These two so-called “kidnapped soldiers” are actually the Prisoner Of War
They were taken by the Lebanese Resistance forces in a successful military operation... finally IMO these two are nothing but two mass murderous Zionist soldiers just like Nazi SS in the WWII and deserve nothing more than execution by hanging in a public square for there crimes against humanity.

 

[DATYdude]

Another diplomatic position held by cyrus. There's no point in arguing, it's just too damn easy...

... when he says Kill the Jew/NAzis! Hang them in the town square! I don't think he sees the irony, do you?

 

[cyrus]

Another diplomatic position held by cyrus. There's no point in arguing, it's just too damn easy...

... when he says Kill the Jew/NAzis! Hang them in the town square! I don't think he sees the irony, do you?

See the irony for yourself....
The Angry Arab News Service

 

[scroll99]

Didn't say that the US or ISreal doesn't have human rights violations. They do. And I never condemned AI or UN for this.

And the UN and AI has a report on countries where women's right are horribly lacking. the US is not on this list. But many countries in the middle-east and asia are.

United Nations Human Rights


Women and Violence

In the United States, a woman is beaten every 18 minutes. Indeed, domestic violence is the leading cause of injury among women of reproductive age in the United States. Between 22 and 35 per cent of women who visit emergency rooms are there for that reason.

http://www.un.org/rights/dpi1772e.htm

Read the whole UN report more than 90% countries mentioned for women abuse are non-Arab/ non-muslim countries


and here is the US role in human rights

U.S. Isolated in Opposing New Human Rights Body

UINITED NATIONS, Mar 10 (IPS) - The United States is being reduced to a minority of one in its unyielding opposition to a proposal to create a new Human Rights Council (HRC) to replace the U.N.'s existing much-maligned Human Rights Commission in Geneva.

On the opposite side of the aisle are strong supporters of the proposal -- an overwhelming majority of the U.N.'s 191 member states -- including the 25-member European Union, the 114-member Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) of developing nations, plus virtually all of the key U.S. human rights organisations.

http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=32463

 

[basketcase]

These two so-called “kidnapped soldiers” are actually the Prisoner Of War
They were taken by the Lebanese Resistance forces in a successful military operation... finally IMO these two are nothing but two mass murderous Zionist soldiers just like Nazi SS in the WWII and deserve nothing more than execution by hanging in a public square for there crimes against humanity.

Then why don't the Hezbollah act like they're ina a war, follow the Geneva Convention and do things like wear uniforms and not hide in the civilian population like the terrorists they are? You can't have it both ways. (at least normal people can't. I'm sure you can hold opposing views and believe both)

 

[cyrus]

Then why don't the Hezbollah act like they're ina a war, follow the Geneva Convention and do things like wear uniforms and not hide in the civilian population like the terrorists they are? You can't have it both ways. (at least normal people can't. I'm sure you can hold opposing views and believe both)

Thry wear uniform but they are Militia Fighters & not a regular army...

 

[K Douglas]

United Nations Human Rights


Women and Violence

In the United States, a woman is beaten every 18 minutes. Indeed, domestic violence is the leading cause of injury among women of reproductive age in the United States. Between 22 and 35 per cent of women who visit emergency rooms are there for that reason.

http://www.un.org/rights/dpi1772e.htm

Read the whole UN report more than 90% countries mentioned for women abuse are non-Arab/ non-muslim countries


and here is the US role in human rights

U.S. Isolated in Opposing New Human Rights Body

UINITED NATIONS, Mar 10 (IPS) - The United States is being reduced to a minority of one in its unyielding opposition to a proposal to create a new Human Rights Council (HRC) to replace the U.N.'s existing much-maligned Human Rights Commission in Geneva.

On the opposite side of the aisle are strong supporters of the proposal -- an overwhelming majority of the U.N.'s 191 member states -- including the 25-member European Union, the 114-member Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) of developing nations, plus virtually all of the key U.S. human rights organisations.

http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=32463

The last I checked most countries in the world are non-Arab/non Muslim countries. And most of the ones that are would not be compiling statistics like the US does with respect to women and violence. Therefore, it doesn't surprise me to hear that statistics show a higher propensity for violence against women in the US. Furthermore, this doesn't mean that the US administration is a perennial human rights abuser for it is not they who are encouraging or aiding the violence against women.
Once again its another socialist manipulating and distorting facts to support a theory - kind of like Islamic extremists do.

 

[onthebottom]

Though I can't see an international Airport used for such supplies, a bigger question comes into play.
How is the UN or Relief supposed to get in?
How are innocent civilians to get out?

Somethings might seem right at first, but at what costs in the end?

Ships.

OTB

 

[onthebottom]

All very good points. With so many Nations in Lebanon, including the UN as observers, It is good Israel not escalate the situation but providing a cease fire.
Supplies can be dropped in, but you are correct, for maxium effect remove the airport.

Supplies can only be "dropped in" if you control the airspace, I can assure you that Israel controls that airspace.

OTB

 

[MarkJfr]

for the idiots who claim the Airport was used by Hizbollah: The Airport is soly used by civilians Period.

Hizbollah has its own ways to get supplies and they use undergound bunkers to save their things and tunnels dug underground. The lebanese International Airports are civilian airports. If Hizbollah was controlling the Airport then no flights comming from that international airports would be accepted in other airports in the region let alone the world.

So stop with that insane argument. ITS A Civilian Airport used by Civilian 747s and other Boing Jets for international flights. Israel hindered the worlds ability to evacuate forgein nationals quickly and thus contributed to their deaths. Period.

 

[onthebottom]

for the idiots who claim the Airport was used by Hizbollah: The Airport is soly used by civilians Period.

Hizbollah has its own ways to get supplies and they use undergound bunkers to save their things and tunnels dug underground. The lebanese International Airports are civilian airports. If Hizbollah was controlling the Airport then no flights comming from that international airports would be accepted in other airports in the region let alone the world.

So stop with that insane argument. ITS A Civilian Airport used by Civilian 747s and other Boing Jets for international flights. Israel hindered the worlds ability to evacuate forgein nationals quickly and thus contributed to their deaths. Period.

Becasue terrorists never fly commerical right.......

Wow, what an idiot.

OTB

 

[xdog]

It seems Mark has a lot of inside info or watches too many Sinbad movies while dropping acid. I wonder if Hezbollah is aware that Mark knows the whereabouts of their tunnels and bunkers? I'm sure that nothing could be smuggled into or out of an airport. Jesus, what an idiot. Are you aware how much is smuggled into Toronto airport each year? Also consider how much security is located at the Toronto airport. Now compare this to the airport in Beirut where Hezbollah is a political party. Shucks, they would never be able to smuggle in guns or bombs.


x^

 

[Mamba]

Its always fun to watch amateurs like Mark with zero strategic understanding comment on military matters.

Let me summarize the conflict in terms even he may understand:
Neighbour A (Israel) is fighting Neighbour B (Palestinians) when Neighbour C (Hezbollah) decides to stick their nose in & takes a swing. A kicks C's balls & burns down C's crib. Meanwhile, a French mime clown (Chirac) jumps up & down trying to say "disproportionate force" - most of the world treats mime clown with the disdain they deserve.

Being the only airport in the country able to handle resupply efforts of any consequence, it is a legitimate target - the civilian moniker is irrelevant in time of war (including Pearson).

Kathleen's attempt to make this a Stephen Harper issue is also amusing. We (along with others) are using French, Greek & other ships because these countries are on tne Mediterranean & thus able to assist more effectively. If this was happening in the Caribbean, these countries would be looking to us for the same kind of help. I am not sure what the Liberals (or God forbid - the NDP!) would be doing differently - except trying to score cheap political points with their Islamic terrorist pals they have let into the country.

Finally, in the words of a Lebanese co-worker of mine who was frantically trying to move her vacationing daughter out of the country with the help of the Canadian embassy - "They should have done this earlier - they should have detroyed Hezbollah years ago!".

 

[scroll99]

Originally Posted by Don
Didn't say that the US or ISreal doesn't have human rights violations. They do. And I never condemned AI or UN for this.

And the UN and AI has a report on countries where women's right are horribly lacking. the US is not on this list. But many countries in the middle-east and asia are.

The last I checked most countries in the world are non-Arab/non Muslim countries. And most of the ones that are would not be compiling statistics like the US does with respect to women and violence. Therefore, it doesn't surprise me to hear that statistics show a higher propensity for violence against women in the US. Furthermore, this doesn't mean that the US administration is a perennial human rights abuser for it is not they who are encouraging or aiding the violence against women.
Once again its another socialist manipulating and distorting facts to support a theory - kind of like Islamic extremists do.

so I linked UN report at the mention of Don and this is your reply regarding the UN report.

So you guys decide yourself what you guys want
since I knew you like US will have no regard for UN or AI

In the United States, a woman is beaten every 18 minutes. Indeed, domestic violence is the leading cause of injury among women of reproductive age in the United States. Between 22 and 35 per cent of women who visit emergency rooms are there for that reason.

http://www.un.org/rights/dpi1772e.htm


The United States has withdrawn from a treaty to establish an International Criminal Court (ICC), provoking outrage from human rights organisations.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1970312.stm