You admit that the Nation State Law that gives the right to self determination only to Jews is racist?
If you think its racist for Palestinians, why would you think its not racist for Jews?
Israeli PM Vows To Extend Jewish Sovereignty To All West Bank Settlements
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If you think its racist for Palestinians, why would you think its not racist for Jews?
Frankfooter,
Have you ever been to Israel?
Have you seen it for yourself on the ground?
It's great to read all these things on sites, etc., but have you actually gone to places like Haifa, Jerusalem, and many other places?
The Arabs do very well in Israel as well as in the disputed areas.
Yes, there are poor Arab villages, but there are poor Jewish villages as well.
Here is a link to the minority rights in the Israeli constitution:
https://knesset.gov.il/constitution/ConstP20_eng.htm
There are Arabs in the parliament, in the Supreme Court as well as high command positions in the military.
Have you ever been to Israel?
Have you seen it for yourself on the ground?
It's great to read all these things on sites, etc., but have you actually gone to places like Haifa, Jerusalem, and many other places?
The Arabs do very well in Israel as well as in the disputed areas.
Yes, there are poor Arab villages, but there are poor Jewish villages as well.
Here is a link to the minority rights in the Israeli constitution:
https://knesset.gov.il/constitution/ConstP20_eng.htm
There are Arabs in the parliament, in the Supreme Court as well as high command positions in the military.
That’s not a constitution, half wit. It’s a committee meeting.Frankfooter,
Have you ever been to Israel?
Have you seen it for yourself on the ground?
It's great to read all these things on sites, etc., but have you actually gone to places like Haifa, Jerusalem, and many other places?
The Arabs do very well in Israel as well as in the disputed areas.
Yes, there are poor Arab villages, but there are poor Jewish villages as well.
Here is a link to the minority rights in the Israeli constitution:
https://knesset.gov.il/constitution/ConstP20_eng.htm
There are Arabs in the parliament, in the Supreme Court as well as high command positions in the military.
But your misreading of the link is consistent with your other examples of wishful and delusional thinking masquerading as observations.
And another elitist who insists on telling Arabs how they should feel.That’s not a constitution, half wit. It’s a committee meeting.
But your misreading of the link is consistent with your other examples of wishful and delusional thinking masquerading as observations.
Masquerading as observations?That’s not a constitution, half wit. It’s a committee meeting.
But your misreading of the link is consistent with your other examples of wishful and delusional thinking masquerading as observations.
hmmm, interesting....
So you know so much about what goes on in Israel?
It just amazes me that you can make such wonderful comments and know what goes on out there..
I did make a mistake and post the wrong link, thanks for pointing it out.
Here are a link that can help you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Law:_Human_Dignity_and_Liberty
BTW, not observations, but first hand knowledge..
It certainly does help me. It makes absolutely no mention of minority rights.Masquerading as observations?
hmmm, interesting....
So you know so much about what goes on in Israel?
It just amazes me that you can make such wonderful comments and know what goes on out there..
I did make a mistake and post the wrong link, thanks for pointing it out.
Here are a link that can help you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Law:_Human_Dignity_and_Liberty
BTW, not observations, but first hand knowledge..
It's because it talks about individuals rights, and it does not put anyone in groups. It's non-discriminatory...It certainly does help me. It makes absolutely no mention of minority rights.
I’ve got to hand it to you....you tee it up perfectly.It's because it talks about individuals rights, and it does not put anyone in groups. It's non-discriminatory...
The Basic Law comprises eleven clauses, as follows:[29][30]
1 — Basic Principles
A. The land of Israel is the historical homeland of the Jewish people, in which the State of Israel was established.
B. The State of Israel is the national home of the Jewish people, in which it fulfills its natural, cultural, religious, and historical right to self-determination.
C. The right to exercise national self-determination in the State of Israel is unique to the Jewish people.
2 — Symbols of the State
A. The name of the state is "Israel".
B. The state flag is white, with two blue stripes near the edges and a blue Star of David in the center.
C. The state emblem is a seven-branched menorah with olive leaves on both sides and the word "Israel" beneath it.
D. The state anthem is "Hatikvah".
E. Details regarding state symbols will be determined by the law.
3 — Capital of the State
Jerusalem, complete and united, is the capital of Israel.
4 — Language
A. The state's language is Hebrew.
B. The Arabic language has a special status in the state; Regulating the use of Arabic in state institutions or by them will be set in law.
C. This clause does not harm the status given to the Arabic language before this law came into effect.
5 — Ingathering of the Exiles
The state will be open for Jewish immigration and the ingathering of exiles.
6 — Connection to the Jewish people
A. The state will strive to ensure the safety of the members of the Jewish people and of its citizens in trouble or in captivity due to the fact of their Jewishness or their citizenship.
B. The state shall act within the Diaspora to strengthen the affinity between the state and members of the Jewish people.
C. The state shall act to preserve the cultural, historical, and religious heritage of the Jewish people among Jews in the Diaspora.
7 — Jewish Settlement
A. The state views the development of Jewish settlement as a national value and will act to encourage and promote its establishment and consolidation.
8 — Official Calendar
The Hebrew calendar is the official calendar of the state and alongside it the Gregorian calendar will be used as an official calendar. Use of the Hebrew calendar and the Gregorian calendar will be determined by law.
9 — Independence Day and Memorial Days
A. Independence Day is the official national holiday of the state.
B. Memorial Day for the Fallen in Israel's Wars and Holocaust and Heroism Remembrance Day are official memorial days of the State.
10 — Days of Rest and Sabbath
The Sabbath and the festivals of Israel are the established days of rest in the state; Non-Jews have a right to maintain days of rest on their Sabbaths and festivals; Details of this issue will be determined by law.
11 — Immutability
This Basic Law shall not be amended, unless by another Basic Law passed by a majority of Knesset members.
WOW!!!I’ve got to hand it to you....you tee it up perfectly.
The Basic Law comprises eleven clauses, as follows:[29][30]
1 — Basic Principles
A. The land of Israel is the historical homeland of the Jewish people, in which the State of Israel was established.
B. The State of Israel is the national home of the Jewish people, in which it fulfills its natural, cultural, religious, and historical right to self-determination.
C. The right to exercise national self-determination in the State of Israel is unique to the Jewish people.
2 — Symbols of the State
A. The name of the state is "Israel".
B. The state flag is white, with two blue stripes near the edges and a blue Star of David in the center.
C. The state emblem is a seven-branched menorah with olive leaves on both sides and the word "Israel" beneath it.
D. The state anthem is "Hatikvah".
E. Details regarding state symbols will be determined by the law.
3 — Capital of the State
Jerusalem, complete and united, is the capital of Israel.
4 — Language
A. The state's language is Hebrew.
B. The Arabic language has a special status in the state; Regulating the use of Arabic in state institutions or by them will be set in law.
C. This clause does not harm the status given to the Arabic language before this law came into effect.
5 — Ingathering of the Exiles
The state will be open for Jewish immigration and the ingathering of exiles.
6 — Connection to the Jewish people
A. The state will strive to ensure the safety of the members of the Jewish people and of its citizens in trouble or in captivity due to the fact of their Jewishness or their citizenship.
B. The state shall act within the Diaspora to strengthen the affinity between the state and members of the Jewish people.
C. The state shall act to preserve the cultural, historical, and religious heritage of the Jewish people among Jews in the Diaspora.
7 — Jewish Settlement
A. The state views the development of Jewish settlement as a national value and will act to encourage and promote its establishment and consolidation.
8 — Official Calendar
The Hebrew calendar is the official calendar of the state and alongside it the Gregorian calendar will be used as an official calendar. Use of the Hebrew calendar and the Gregorian calendar will be determined by law.
9 — Independence Day and Memorial Days
A. Independence Day is the official national holiday of the state.
B. Memorial Day for the Fallen in Israel's Wars and Holocaust and Heroism Remembrance Day are official memorial days of the State.
10 — Days of Rest and Sabbath
The Sabbath and the festivals of Israel are the established days of rest in the state; Non-Jews have a right to maintain days of rest on their Sabbaths and festivals; Details of this issue will be determined by law.
11 — Immutability
This Basic Law shall not be amended, unless by another Basic Law passed by a majority of Knesset members.
You are so amazing..
You are truly amazing..
The link above is from Wikipedia, I have no idea where you got your stuff from. It is different from what you posted. Wiki copied the knessets site.
Basic Law: Human Dignity and Liberty
1. The purpose of this Basic Law is to protect human dignity and liberty, in order to establish in a Basic Law the values of the State of Israel as a Jewish and democratic state.
2. There shall be no violation of the life, body or dignity of any person as such.
3. There shall be no violation of the property of a person.
4. All persons are entitled to protection of their life, body and dignity.
5. There shall be no deprivation or restriction of the liberty of a person by imprisonment, arrest, extradition or otherwise.
6. (a) All persons are free to leave Israel.
(b) Every Israel national has the right of entry into Israel from abroad.
7. (a) All persons have the right to privacy and to intimacy.
(b) There shall be no entry into the private premises of a person who has not consented thereto.
(c) No search shall be conducted on the private premises of a person, nor in the body or personal effects.
(d) There shall be no violation of the confidentiality of conversation, or of the writings or records of a person.
8. There shall be no violation of rights under this Basic Law except by a law befitting the values of the State of Israel, enacted for a proper purpose, and to an extent no greater than is required.
9. There shall be no restriction of rights under this Basic Law held by persons serving in the Israel Defence Forces, the Israel Police, the Prisons Service and other security organizations of the State, nor shall such rights be subject to conditions, except by virtue of a law, or by regulation enacted by virtue of a law, and to an extent no greater than is required by the nature and character of the service.
10. This Basic Law shall not affect the validity of any law (din) in force prior to the commencement of the Basic Law.
11. All governmental authorities are bound to respect the rights under this Basic Law.
12. This Basic Law cannot be varied, suspended or made subject to conditions by emergency regulations; notwithstanding, when a state of emergency exists, by virtue of a declaration under section 9 of the Law and Administration Ordinance, 5708-1948, emergency regulations may be enacted by virtue of said section to deny or restrict rights under this Basic Law, provided the denial or restriction shall be for a proper purpose and for a period and extent no greater than is required.
Yes, Israel is a Jewish state, so what..
You Anti Jew too??
Guess what...it’s from Wikipedia.WOW!!!
You are so amazing..
You are truly amazing..
The link above is from Wikipedia, I have no idea where you got your stuff from. It is different from what you posted. Wiki copied the knessets site.
Basic Law: Human Dignity and Liberty
1. The purpose of this Basic Law is to protect human dignity and liberty, in order to establish in a Basic Law the values of the State of Israel as a Jewish and democratic state.
2. There shall be no violation of the life, body or dignity of any person as such.
3. There shall be no violation of the property of a person.
4. All persons are entitled to protection of their life, body and dignity.
5. There shall be no deprivation or restriction of the liberty of a person by imprisonment, arrest, extradition or otherwise.
6. (a) All persons are free to leave Israel.
(b) Every Israel national has the right of entry into Israel from abroad.
7. (a) All persons have the right to privacy and to intimacy.
(b) There shall be no entry into the private premises of a person who has not consented thereto.
(c) No search shall be conducted on the private premises of a person, nor in the body or personal effects.
(d) There shall be no violation of the confidentiality of conversation, or of the writings or records of a person.
8. There shall be no violation of rights under this Basic Law except by a law befitting the values of the State of Israel, enacted for a proper purpose, and to an extent no greater than is required.
9. There shall be no restriction of rights under this Basic Law held by persons serving in the Israel Defence Forces, the Israel Police, the Prisons Service and other security organizations of the State, nor shall such rights be subject to conditions, except by virtue of a law, or by regulation enacted by virtue of a law, and to an extent no greater than is required by the nature and character of the service.
10. This Basic Law shall not affect the validity of any law (din) in force prior to the commencement of the Basic Law.
11. All governmental authorities are bound to respect the rights under this Basic Law.
12. This Basic Law cannot be varied, suspended or made subject to conditions by emergency regulations; notwithstanding, when a state of emergency exists, by virtue of a declaration under section 9 of the Law and Administration Ordinance, 5708-1948, emergency regulations may be enacted by virtue of said section to deny or restrict rights under this Basic Law, provided the denial or restriction shall be for a proper purpose and for a period and extent no greater than is required.
Yes, Israel is a Jewish state, so what..
You Anti Jew too??
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Law:_Israel_as_the_Nation-State_of_the_Jewish_People
What happened to it “doesn’t put people into groups”?
And none of them in any way diminish the rights of the million or two Arab Israelis. In fact it explicitly says Arabic will be protected and available in all government services....
The Basic Law comprises eleven clauses, as follows:[29][30]....
Damned with faint praise.And none of them in any way diminish the rights of the million or two Arab Israelis. In fact it explicitly says Arabic will be protected and available in all government services.
Priceless.
Of course they do, blanket denial of apartheid law doesn't in any way diminish their effects on all Palestinians living under Israeli rule, occupation or not.And none of them in any way diminish the rights of the million or two Arab Israelis. In fact it explicitly says Arabic will be protected and available in all government services.
That law explicitly gives more rights to Jews than Palestinians.
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jazzbox
Netanyahu is going rogue because he is desperate to survive in Israeli politics. I suspect this is because he could end up in jail if ousted from power. Of course, he can get away with this stuff because Trump is in the White House and will say/do absolutely nothing of substance about it because Trump and the Republicans are desperate to hold on to the Jewish vote and funding in the upcoming elections. A sad state of affairs. It is a shame that Israel is increasingly beholden to the power of small orthodox jewish parties that would give Hezbollah a run for their money in they hatred for the other and willingness to use violence to deal with issues of governance.
LOL! The Jewish vote goes to the Democrats.Netanyahu is going rogue because he is desperate to survive in Israeli politics. I suspect this is because he could end up in jail if ousted from power. Of course, he can get away with this stuff because Trump is in the White House and will say/do absolutely nothing of substance about it because Trump and the Republicans are desperate to hold on to the Jewish vote and funding in the upcoming elections. A sad state of affairs. It is a shame that Israel is increasingly beholden to the power of small orthodox jewish parties that would give Hezbollah a run for their money in they hatred for the other and willingness to use violence to deal with issues of governance.
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jazzbox
At one time yes but less and less... It has been drifting toward the Republicans for a long time as has financing from wealthy Jewish donors. Trump is actively pursuing that support also hence recognizing Jerusalem
LOL! The Jewish vote goes to the Democrats.
Trust me. When it comes to Israel, Trump has a much larger audience than a few costal Jewish-Americans. It's called his base.At one time yes but less and less... It has been drifting toward the Republicans for a long time as has financing from wealthy Jewish donors. Trump is actively pursuing that support also hence recognizing Jerusalem
I don’t think the base likes ingrates.Trust me. When it comes to Israel, Trump has a much larger audience than a few costal Jewish-Americans. It's called his base.
Israel accused of planting mysterious spy devices near the White House
The U.S. government concluded within the last two years that Israel was most likely behind the placement of cell-phone surveillance devices that were found near the White House and other sensitive locations around Washington, D.C., according to three former senior U.S. officials with knowledge of the matter.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/12/israel-white-house-spying-devices-1491351
