You might want to slow down a bit and read your own post where you made this statement (post 140): "So I take it that in your world view the acts committed in 1948 justify the killing of Israeli civilians today. Well at least we now know your beliefs. You should be very proud."LOL. are you now having conversations with yourself? LOL.
Your refusal to answer the question which has been put to you repeatedly and your attempts at diverting the the answer will speak for themselves. i will leave it to readers to draw their own conclusions. In my view your position is unmistakable and undeniable. That is unless you care to deny it and to respond.You might want to slow down a bit and read your own post where you made this statement (post 140): "So I take it that in your world view the acts committed in 1948 justify the killing of Israeli civilians today. Well at least we now know your beliefs. You should be very proud."
That's quite a serious accusation and I'm sure you would not make it unless I actually said it. In that post, you quote me. Perhaps you can indicate where I say, in that quote, what you claim in your response.
Just answer the question. In your opinion is Hamas, like Irgun was, a terrorist organization?Why...I thought I was supporting your thread. Are you unhappy in some way?
Oh, don't sound so frightened. I was just asking you about your own claim that I said something in the quote you used.Your refusal to answer the question which has been put to you repeatedly and your attempts at diverting the the answer will speak for themselves. i will leave it to readers to draw their own conclusions. In my view your position is unmistakable and undeniable. That is unless you care to deny it and to respond.
Are you including Haganah in that comparison?Just answer the question. In your opinion is Hamas, like Irgun was, a terrorist organization?
My question is clear: Do you think that Hamas is a terrorist organization like Irgun? The question does not mention Haganah one way or the other.Are you including Haganah in that comparison?
Then you need to revisit your question.My question is clear: Do you think that Hamas is a terrorist organization like Irgun? The question does not mention Haganah one way or the other.
OK, let me make it really really simple:Then you need to revisit your question.
You need to revisit this question as it relates to the Haganah - especially in the light of Palmach's involvment in the Deir Yassin massacre and the involvment of Yitzah Rabin in the forced expulsion of 50,000 Palestinians while a member of Palmach.OK, let me make it really really simple:
Do you think Hamas is a terrorist organization?
I am asking for YOUR view on THIS question. If you want to continue after answering and tell me something else you think fine, so be it, just answer this first.
Incorrect. The Haganah unit known as Palmach was part of the Deir Yassin operation which was itself part of a larger Haganah operation :Haganah condemned the Deir Yassin massacre. It was Irgun and Lehi that were involved there.
At any rate I didn't ask you about Haganah, and I agree that Irgun was a terrorist organization (and one that wore yamalukes).
I asked you about Hamas.
As usual instead of answering the question you simply quote some other article hwich may or may not be correct but which any event is not responsive to the question. Why not answer the question and defend your fellow travelers. Not really a difficult question. Or is it?Incorrect. The Haganah unit known as Palmach was part of the Deir Yassin operation which was itself part of a larger Haganah operation :
"In an effort by the Jewish militias to clear the road to Jerusalem, which was being blockaded by Arab forces, Deir Yassin was attacked and emptied of its inhabitants on April 9, 1948, by 120 Irgun and Lehi forces, reinforced by Haganah troops.[5] The invasion was part of the Haganah's Operation Nachshon. A unit from the Palmach, the Haganah's strike force, took part in the assault using mortars.[4] Around 107 villagers, including women and children, and four Irgun or Lehi men were killed.[6] The incident became known as the Deir Yassin massacre."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin
Content is not something you are comfortable with, is it?As usual instead of answering the question you simply quote some other article hwich may or may not be correct but which any event is not responsive to the question. Why not answer the question and defend your fellow travelers. Not really a difficult question. Or is it?
The Haganah units weren't part of the massacre and Haganah went on to condemn Irgun and Lehi for what happened at Deir Yassin. The problem with Deir Yassin is not that they entered the village, nor the larger operation, but that when they did so Irgun and Lehi killed the civilians there. Haganah did not participate in the aspect of the operation that made it a massacre. Had they simply occupied the village WITHOUT killing so many people, which was what Haganah expected to happen, it would not now be known as the Deir Yassin massacre.Incorrect. The Haganah unit known as Palmach was part of the Deir Yassin operation which was itself part of a larger Haganah operation
LOL. Good comeback. NOT.Content is not something you are comfortable with, is it?
If your point is that you are delusional and a pathetic anti-Semite then you are correct. I did.I think you just proved my point.
Quite the contrary. The attack on Deir Yassin was part of the Haganah operation and they participated in the attack through the Palmach unit.The Haganah units weren't part of the massacre and Haganah went on to condemn Irgun and Lehi for what happened at Deir Yassin. The problem with Deir Yassin is not that they entered the village, nor the larger operation, but that when they did so Irgun and Lehi killed the civilians there. Haganah did not participate in the aspect of the operation that made it a massacre. Had they simply occupied the village WITHOUT killing so many people, which was what Haganah expected to happen, it would not now be known as the Deir Yassin massacre.
Should Haganah have done more to stop Irgun and Lehi from carrying out terrorist attacks and massacres like Deir Yassin? Probably. But that is not the same thing as asserting that Haganah was part of the massacre. That is more like saying the British Army in Northern Ireland should have done more to stop protestant paramilitaries from carrying out terrorist attacks there, and at some level was guilty of colluding with them. Haganah is in a similar role with respect to Irgun and Lehi.
Meanwhile you have been evasive, are you scared to answer this question, is it a truth you find difficult to discuss:
Is Hamas a terrorist organization?
Evasive? I've been waiting for your response to the issue of the terrorist, Yitzak Rabin. As you know, Israel does not have a free press and has been under military censorship for more than 40 years. As a result, he was not able to tell the truth (it really would upset the fairy tale of Israel if it got out) about his actions. Poor Yitzak.....trying to unburden himself and his country won't let him:Meanwhile you have been evasive, are you scared to answer this question, is it a truth you find difficult to discuss:
Is Hamas a terrorist organization?
