I am a nut as well. I dont thinkl so either.Well rama seems to be the only one who thinks this nut wasn't a terrorist....
It's only terrorism if you have brown skin or a towel on your head
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DICK was used as reference here.
DICK is and expert on terrorists being he worked closely with them for so many years!....
It was an Irish American "thing." I've never known anyone from Ireland either Eire or Northern Ireland who didn't unequivocally state that the IRA in its various branches was a terrorist organization. (I’m sure IRA members didn’t feel that way, but I’ve never known any).
NBC has done a spectacularly awful job of dancing around the fact that the man was a Tax Protester nut (i.e. believed all sorts of bizarre theories about how the Income Tax was Unconstitutional) who deliberately engaged in an act of Domestic Terrorism - what else do you call loading your light plane with extra aviation gasoline and then "dive bombing" it into the local IRS offices so gutting the entire office building that it will have to be razed and killing several people and hospitalizing over a dozen.
In this case it wasn’t done by an ideological cult to further their cause or get a reward in the afterlife. It was an isolated incident done by one guy who was a pissed off nut case. However, I’d still call it terrorism.
While there's no 1 singular, all-encompassing definition of "terrorism", terrorism is usually a tactic used to achieve or promote some other objective. Some may see what Mr. Stack did as an act of terrorism, and those folks may be correct, whilst others can also correctly argue that it was an act of lunacy, or defiance, or desparation, but not terrorism, and they may also be correct. It comes down to semantics and opinion (IMO).
Would you call Stack a terrorist? Personally, I wouldn't call him a terrorist any more that I would call the guy who straps on a semtex & screws vest........(I'd call them both murderous idiots). It's the fellows who can convince someone else to strap on that vest, or kamikaze that airplane into a building, who are the terrorists. Its the command & control function. You'd prolly be correct to consider Mr. J.P. Morgan a capitalist, but what would you consider the clerks, bookkeepers, etc that do the minutae & daily duties that make up the JP Morgan business entity?
There will always be isolated, alienated, impressionable individuals that can get convinced (either by their own paranoia, or by a more skillful manipulator) to do something incredibly stupid, or destructive, or both. The "lone wolf" crazed individual, that we used to call "mass-murderers" - they've always been among us & probably always will. They used to take a rifle and go on shooting sprees, but times & tactics change, so maybe small aircraft will be the newest weapon of choice for these wackos....despite having lockable doors. These types are hard to detect & stop, until after the fact, when everyone gets 20/20 hindsight vision. And, IMO, the real "terrorists", those who can convince others that its a good thing to kill other folks on the basis of religious, ethnic, national, racial, whatever differences, they've also been with us for a loooong time and likely will be into the future too. These are the ones that we work very very hard to try to stop, as they usually don't stop themselves.
Regardless, for the folks working away in the office building when the plane struck, they must have been terrified, so call it what you will.
Gecko, over & OUT!
Would you call Stack a terrorist? Personally, I wouldn't call him a terrorist any more that I would call the guy who straps on a semtex & screws vest........(I'd call them both murderous idiots). It's the fellows who can convince someone else to strap on that vest, or kamikaze that airplane into a building, who are the terrorists. Its the command & control function. You'd prolly be correct to consider Mr. J.P. Morgan a capitalist, but what would you consider the clerks, bookkeepers, etc that do the minutae & daily duties that make up the JP Morgan business entity?
There will always be isolated, alienated, impressionable individuals that can get convinced (either by their own paranoia, or by a more skillful manipulator) to do something incredibly stupid, or destructive, or both. The "lone wolf" crazed individual, that we used to call "mass-murderers" - they've always been among us & probably always will. They used to take a rifle and go on shooting sprees, but times & tactics change, so maybe small aircraft will be the newest weapon of choice for these wackos....despite having lockable doors. These types are hard to detect & stop, until after the fact, when everyone gets 20/20 hindsight vision. And, IMO, the real "terrorists", those who can convince others that its a good thing to kill other folks on the basis of religious, ethnic, national, racial, whatever differences, they've also been with us for a loooong time and likely will be into the future too. These are the ones that we work very very hard to try to stop, as they usually don't stop themselves.
Regardless, for the folks working away in the office building when the plane struck, they must have been terrified, so call it what you will.
Gecko, over & OUT!
Why don't you read up on Irish history and the great potato famines of the 1840's and report back.
I'll take this as an admission of no proof
As per usual, you're talking out your potato hole.
I'll go out on a limb and suggest that I know a little more about Irish and Scottish history than you do. There is no evidence that Scottish landowners were the main reason for the famine or the plight of the Irish. The English certainly much more so. Some Scots. A few Welsh. And many Irish as well.
As per usual, you're talking out your potato hole.
Assuming you have, you would know that the English did far more to cause the famine in Ireland then the "gift" they gave of some of the land to certain Scot landowners. The English practically wished the Irish would starve or disappear, and actively pursued that through two centuries. The Scot landowners were at worst were a proxy agent. The English wanted to wake up one day, have their morning tea, and find out the Irish were gone.
Ok, let's blame the English, the Scots and the Welsh and maybe a few Irish. BTW: Virtually all the Protestants in Northern Ireland trace their roots back to Scotland.
Do you agree that food was EXPORTED during the great potato famines of the 1840's while Irish tenant famers were starving to death? Or, do you consider that B/S as well?
Not what you originally said. The Scots were a minor player in all this. The real players were in the British monarchy and the parliment. Meaning, England.
Correct me if I am wrong (politely please) but weren't most of the Protestants from the British Isle on the ground in Ireland in fact Scottish?
The reference used was totally facetious.
Guess you missed that.
DICK is a despicable degenerate POS War Criminal, who in a Just World of real Law & Order would have been tried, convicted and sentenced to the same fate as his old Ally/cohort Saddam....
At whose discrection and outright politcal control? As I said they were proxy agents. The English most of all wanted that the Irish would simply disappear and did their best to make that happen.
They were WILLING proxy agents. To this day the Protestant Scots living in Ireland do not consider themselves Irish but as subjects of the British Crown.
The actions of the Irish in America, including the Kennedys, in supporting their brothers and sisters in their ancestral homeland are perfectly understandable.
