Jason Blake
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Isn't his cancer under control? Remember Mario Lemieux and how he controlled his cancer? Anyway, I think Jason is simply too small to play in the NHL. He gets shoved off the puck too easily.
Don't blame Blake for the money he's making. He didn't lie about his credentials or stats when they signed him. He never even promised that he would score any goals.
With free agents, or any player who is up for contract renewal, they are paid based on past performances; it's up to the general managers to determine what are the future returns for their investments in these players.
In Blake's case, JFJ was dead wrong in his evaluation and the team has been paying dearly for his mistake.
GMs tend to overpay for free agents because they are under the misconception that these players are free and it doesn't cost any existing talent on the team to get these players; but what JRJ didn't seem to realize was that with salary cap, cap space could be of even higher value than draft picks.
With free agents, or any player who is up for contract renewal, they are paid based on past performances; it's up to the general managers to determine what are the future returns for their investments in these players.
In Blake's case, JFJ was dead wrong in his evaluation and the team has been paying dearly for his mistake.
GMs tend to overpay for free agents because they are under the misconception that these players are free and it doesn't cost any existing talent on the team to get these players; but what JRJ didn't seem to realize was that with salary cap, cap space could be of even higher value than draft picks.
This is interesting. Are we stuck with him like VW? Can he be cut from the team? Doesn't he have to meet any MBO's before he gets paid?
He is a cap hit of $4mil so he is unmovable in a trade. I was hoping he would score some goals early on so the Leafs could trade him and just get him off their pay roll, but it looks as though the Leafs are stuck with him. The only way now to free up the $4 mil is to send him to the Marlies. Maybe with the Marlies he could score some goals and regain some confidence.
Toskala is another one who might be able to get some confidence with the Marlies.
Toskala is another one who might be able to get some confidence with the Marlies.
Like I said, just get him off the Toronto Maple Leafs NHL salary cap pay roll.
Yes I am well aware the Leafs would have to pay his salary regardless.
i dont think the problem is paying his salary....
they may be wanting him to score a few goals so they can at least have a shot at trading him for at least a 7th round pick..
i think we'll be waiting for a while!!
they may be wanting him to score a few goals so they can at least have a shot at trading him for at least a 7th round pick..
i think we'll be waiting for a while!!
The Yankees spend to cover up their deficiencies. Toronto, the financial Yankees of the NHL, can well afford to do the same.
Blake needs to learn how to shoot
Blake has to learn how to shoot and pick corners like Kessel. He might miss like Kessel but at least try to pick some corners. Albeit Kessel has a heavy shot.
He does all this skating, stopping and shifting etc. and then when he shoots it's right at the goalie's chest!
Blake has to learn how to shoot and pick corners like Kessel. He might miss like Kessel but at least try to pick some corners. Albeit Kessel has a heavy shot.
He does all this skating, stopping and shifting etc. and then when he shoots it's right at the goalie's chest!
Regardless of the system, it is a scenario where they can outspend other teams. They could afford to send a $4M player to the farm and trade for a different $4M player. How many teams could afford to do that?
The techniques may be different but the concept of outspending your opponents is the same.
I didn't know you could do that, if they sent Blake to the farm, wouldn't his salary still count against the cap regardless ? I thought the only way the Leafs could save some cap space would be to buy him out and then only part of his remaining salary would count against the cap, as was the case of Darcy Tucker.
Are you sure they can send him down and replace him with another
4mil player thru trade ?
I'm pretty sure that's what I read. If he's off the roster, then he doesn't count. Just like every other Marlie.
if a team tries to send a $4m player down to the farm that player must clear waivers. what prevents teams from constantly doing this is that another team will likely pick up that player and the team sending him down will be stuck with paying half the salary.
in blake's situation the leafs may be in luck cause i don't believe any team will take a $2m cap hit for him.
in blake's situation the leafs may be in luck cause i don't believe any team will take a $2m cap hit for him.
http://www.nhlscap.com/cap_faq.htm#who_counts
Who counts against the cap?
It depends - are we talking about during the season or in the offseason? Let's cover both scenarios:
DURING THE SEASON
During the season (not the team's season, the League's season), anyone on a team's NHL roster counts against the cap. This includes players on the Active Roster, Injured Reserve, Injured Non Roster and Non Roster. It also includes players who have a "bona-fide long-term injury" or LTI as well as players sent to the minors on conditioning assignments and players placed on waivers (until such time that they are assigned). Also included are any deferred salary and bonuses earned as a result of playing in a league year under the new CBA, and any ordinary buyouts. The new CBA lists one other area, but I'll omit it for now unless it happen to take place.
In addition, 50.5(d)(i)(B)(5) states the following:
All Player Salary and Bonuses earned in a League Year by a Player who is in the second or later year of a multi-year SPC which was signed when the Player was age 35 or older (as of June 30 of the League Year in which the SPC is to be effective), but which Player is not on the Club's Active Roster, Injured Reserve, Injured Non Roster or Non Roster, and regardless of whether, or where, the Player is playing, except to the extent the Player is playing under his SPC in the minor leagues, in which case only the Player Salary and Bonuses in excess of $100,000 shall count towards the calculation of Averaged Club Salary;
So if a 35-year old player signs a 3-year contract and meets the criteria set above, his average salary would count against the team's cap for the 2nd and 3rd years of the contract regardless of where (or if) the player is playing. If that player plays in the minors, then his Averaged Club Salary less $100,000 would count.
NOTE: This does NOT mean that a player who is over the age of 35 in the current League Year counts against the Upper Limit. If a player signed a 5-year contract at the age of 32 and is now 35, he can be sent to the minors and will not count against the Upper Limit. The first requirement is that the player must be 35 or older in the League Year when the SPC first becomes effective. The current popular example: even though Darius Kasparaitis turned 35 during the 2007-08 season, he did not count against the Upper Limit after being assigned to Hartford (AHL) because he was only 29 when he signed his contract with the Rangers in 2001. Even if he had signed a 2-year deal for 2007-08 and 2008-09, he still would not count for '08-09 while in Hartford because he was 34 on June 30, 2007.
Players on a team's Active Roster, Injured Reserve, Injured Non Roster or Non Roster as of 5:00pm New York time on a particular day count toward the team's Upper Limit; in addition, if a player practices or travels with his NHL team or plays in an NHL game prior to 5:00pm and is then assigned to the minors, he will still count for that day.
DURING THE OFFSEASON
In the offseason, the following players count:
1. All players on 1-way contracts, regardless of where (or if) they were playing the previous year.
2. All players on 2-way contracts, in proportion to the number of days spent on an NHL roster the previous season.
3. All RFA's who have been extended a qualifying offer (while the offer is valid), with 1-way QO's counting in full and 2-way QO's counting as described in #2.
4. All RFA's signed to an offer sheet (such players count against the team extending the offer sheet while it is still valid).
5. All ordinary buyouts [those buyouts not executed immediately after the ratification of the current CBA].
-- Example: A player with an averaged salary of $500,000 and signed to a 2-way contract was on an NHL roster for 94 days in the previous season, which was 188 days long. During the offseason, he will count $500,000 x 94/188 = $250,000. During the season, he will count only while he is on an NHL roster.
-- Example: A player with an averaged salary of $1.25 million and signed to a 1-way contract was assigned to the AHL in the previous season and spent no days on an NHL roster. The player will still count $1.25 million during the offseason.
Who doesn't count against the cap?
During the season: Players assigned to the minors - even if on one-way contracts - do not count (as long as they are not on conditioning assignments or fit the condition of 50.5(d)(i)(B)(5) above) as well as players signed to a contract that are in Major Junior hockey or overseas. Players suspended by either the team or the NHL will not count for the duration of the suspension as long as the player is not receiving his salary; however, teams must keep enough payroll space available to be able to accept the player should his suspension end immediately.
During the offseason: players signed to a 2-way contract but who were not on an NHL roster at any point during the previous season, and any player not under contract. That's it - everyone else counts as described above.
