Job Interview Crap

[Kyra.Graves]

Be professional all the way - never be antagonistic or challenging, or burn bridges behind you.

Personally I'd send them a thank you note, basically showing them how professional and presentable you are. Wish them the best of success. DO NOT say 'if you ever change your mind call me' etc - that comes across as pleading.

I have DEFINITELY found that people who have rejected me can eventually provide business later. I am talking people who were clients, then switched.

I agree! I have worked in that industry for many years and it's all about the contacts. If you handle this with grace then they will remember and when they (or a client needs a CA) your name is on the list.
It sucks to be so close that they check your references and not get it but it happens. I don't want to sound cliche but if you look on the bright side they would of had many, many applicants and you made it to the top two or three. That does matter in the long run!
Good luck and hopefully if this was through a recruiter they will give you some constructive feedback!

 

[landscaper]

references are allways checked now prior to hiring. To many enhanced or embelished resumes out there . the company does not want the agravation if questions come up later

 

[james t kirk]

You are delusional
have you ever presented a proposal?????????

You follow up on it with the customer.

You make me laugh.

 

[papasmerf]

You make me laugh.

Engineers should have stuck with trains

At least they could make them work, most of the time

 

[Gyaos]

The agency said that I shouldn't since I thanked them already and stated my interested at the end of the interview.
Not sure why the 180.

- Job never existed and it was ploy for HR to make it look like they were working
- They hired someone else, like the boss' daughter instead
- They found someone from India to do it for 66% less
- You pop a massive fart at the end.

You said "Money was OK". Therefore, why bother to work there. Don't send a thank you, send a "go F yourself." instead.

Gyaos.

 

[stugotsms]

I had asked about some feedback but none was given by the firm.

Well I'm glad you fell in love while you were in the army Lancs . Doesn't happen to everyone

I worked in a CA firm for 10 years, made partner, moved to another city, hated the place, quit to start a company. For the professional staff (CA's)it's a pyramid structure which forces people up from the bottom. Up or out is their motto.
Non-professional staff is a bit of a different story. I'm not sure which area you were being interviewed for.
There are shortages in a lot of areas due to the additional bullshit heaped on public companies due to The infamous US fraud cases - Sarbannes-Oxley etc etc.
Perhaps they were interviewing 20 people for 5 jobs and while you were qualified they happened to choose someone else. Your agency should be able to give you more feedback as to why than they have.

 

[stugotsms]

Thanks for the support.

Yes money is an evil thing.

- Job never existed and it was ploy for HR to make it look like they were working
- They hired someone else, like the boss' daughter instead
- They found someone from India to do it for 66% less
- You pop a massive fart at the end.

You said "Money was OK". Therefore, why bother to work there. Don't send a thank you, send a "go F yourself." instead.

Gyaos.

 

[stugotsms]

They were interested.
I think they were down to the last few candidates and he didn't get it.

Maybe, but with no feedback, I just don't know.

 

[Kyra.Graves]

Just a suggestion if it was a direct interview (no recruiter) then why not ask the decision makers who interviewed you? (if you already did that then by all means ignore me).
I have found that it show's an interest in the company and your own personal development, and no I don't think it's desparate at all (before the TERBies say so), to contact the people that did the final interviews, Partners, CFO, whoever, for some feedback.
HR is not the decision maker and most HR employees feel compelled to not say anything (risk management). I personally would ask the decision maker (Partner, CFO, etc) that you interviewed with for some constructive feedback. This shows that you are willing to learn and are a team player, plus it keeps the lines of communication open.

If that is who you already asked please disregard!
I also find being too pushy an issue, though keeing lines of communication open is always a plus.
If you are really interested in feedback someone in the firm will give it; sweet talk an unsuspecting EA or something.

 

[Keebler Elf]

Not in my business - Engineering (no songs by Pyton).

You'd be laughed at as a kiss ass.

Dunno if I'd be offended by an engineer laughing at me.

 

[LancsLad]

I didn't know there were so many fellow CAs out here, but then again, our profession is a stressful one with liability. No wonder we need to hobby!

It's a small world. I once knew a part-time SP who fulfilled my wish of having another customer join us for a M>F<M threesome. Turned out he also was a CA. Holy Shit!

BTW, I don't think a brief follow-up thank you note will hurt since you were on their short list it seems. Being accountants lol, they may have found someone who was asking for less with the same qualifications, and it could have come down to a simple business decision.

I too am surprised at the number of CA's posting.

Shouldn't you guys still in the Public practice game be busy doing tax filinings about now. Hobby in May, let off all that pressure.


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[LancsLad]

Dunno if I'd be offended by an engineer laughing at me.

You can always tell who the outgoing engineer is.




He looks at your shoes while he's talking.



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[bananaman]

When I was in the corporate world, I always found that HR was just the first screening level for most jobs. They narrowed down the list and the hiring manager did second round interviews before deciding who to hire.

Sounds to me like you didn't get past the first round which means it wasn't a great fit. Just move on.

 

[LordLoki]

I had an interview at a medium size CA firm on Monday. They actually contacted me because of my experience. Went and spent about an hour and a half chatting with HR which I hate doing. Said I would be perfect for the role blah blah blah. I'll be in contact. Money was OK. Then I get a cold email saying they do not wan to move forword. What the F***.

Has this happen to anyone else?

I would love to post the name of the firm but I won't

Stugots

In almost all situations in a medium to large firm the HR department pre-screens candidates that come from their searches. They are almost always nice and encouraging to all candidates because it reduces the yelling and upset people in the building. After they go through all the candidates they send up the resume of the top ones to the department head. The department head picks the ones he wants to interview and HR sets it up. Department narrows it even more and depending on the company and job the department head makes a decision or forwards the top candidate up the line for further approval.

Seeing HR is like seeing an escort. Part of their income is earned by being nice and making you feel special. Everyone who is even half assed acceptable leaves feeling it went great. Of course there are exceptions. Try not to drool as you enter the door. Makes it hard for them to convince you are a great person. On the other hand they are not paid to explain to people why they are not a great choice.

 

[squash500]

I too am surprised at the number of CA's posting.

Shouldn't you guys still in the Public practice game be busy doing tax filinings about now. Hobby in May, let off all that pressure.

In all seriousness, can any ca's on terb write off hobbying as a business expense?It could be under the meals and entertainment section on the cra tax form

 

[Bear669]

Grow Up!

I had an interview at a medium size CA firm on Monday. They actually contacted me because of my experience. Went and spent about an hour and a half chatting with HR which I hate doing. Said I would be perfect for the role blah blah blah. I'll be in contact. Money was OK. Then I get a cold email saying they do not wan to move forword. What the F***.

Has this happen to anyone else?

I would love to post the name of the firm but I won't

Stugots

There is much wisdom in this thread, but also utter childishness.

Starting with your own comments, did you consider that your antipathy to the HR person/process might have been so obvious that you blew it from the start?
There is absolutely NOTHING special or unusual about your experience.

Wise Guys:

Not in the CA world you don't. Visualize the Army but without the love and thats the CA profession..

They found someone else, plain and simple.

(or your attitude sucked)

Be professional all the way - never be antagonistic or challenging, or burn bridges behind you. Personally I'd send them a thank you note, basically showing them how professional and presentable you are. Wish them the best of success. DO NOT say 'if you ever change your mind call me' etc - that comes across as pleading.I have DEFINITELY found that people who have rejected me can eventually provide business later. I am talking people who were clients, then switched.

Best advice. f the guy they chose doesn't work out they may call you back in 3 months.

When I was in the corporate world, I always found that HR was just the first screening level for most jobs. They narrowed down the list and the hiring manager did second round interviews before deciding who to hire. Sounds to me like you didn't get past the first round which means it wasn't a great fit. Just move on.

....... Seeing HR is like seeing an escort. Part of their income is earned by being nice and making you feel special. Everyone who is even half assed acceptable leaves feeling it went great. Of course there are exceptions. Try not to drool as you enter the door. Makes it hard for them to convince you are a great person. On the other hand they are not paid to explain to people why they are not a great choice.

Most excellent! In the same way though, if HR thinks you are a dick(head) you dont get a 2nd appointment.

Childish

You could make life difficult for them and challenge it. Call and ask to speak with the HR person who interviewed you. Then get them to expand on their sudden change of heart. If they're telling you that you're perfect for the job and giving you every indication, they owe you an explanation for their 180. Just MHO.

- Job never existed and it was ploy for HR to make it look like they were working...... Don't send a thank you, send a "go F yourself." instead.
Gyaos.

 

[blackdog]

They found out you are a TERB member...

 

[raven@mirage]

that has not happened to me I get the job or I don't there is no bull shit in my interviews so far.

Especially with the job I start tommorow, I went in last friday for my interview and by monday they were callign me to tell me when I was starting they were more excited about hiring me then me actually getting the job.

So I had to put in a fake excitment while talking to HR on the phone.

 

[Corey]

I had an interview at a medium size CA firm on Monday.

C'mon, give it up!

BDO, Grant Thornton or RSM Richter?

And don't say Soberman or PKF Hill because they're too small.

 

[LancsLad]

In all seriousness, can any ca's on terb write off hobbying as a business expense?It could be under the meals and entertainment section on the cra tax form

These days that only gets you a 50% deduction .