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Joe Biden Isn't Popular?

squeezer

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Fox was quiet due to the fact that Hunter's lawyers were appealing all his charges, and that Hunter's appeals were just found unsuccessful today. The talk about Hunter will ramp up, once Hunter's trials begin in June.....LMAO
So a gun charge is going to affect Joe??
 

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Trump attacks his possible VP choices and lets them know, if you work for me, don't fuck with me or I will have you whacked! LMAO

I will say, if anything, he is entertaining. The one thing is since 2016 he's been entertaining, disastrous for the US but an entertaining jackass.

Trump INSULTS Potential VPs TO THEIR FACES!!!

If Trump was disastrous then that would mean Biden is catastrophic.
 
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So a gun charge is going to affect Joe??
Two Trials in June. And will affect Joe because they are going to ask the question of will he pardon him if convicted. And the tax trial will bring up questions of corruption as well. So yes, it will affect him.
 
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Two Trials in June. And will affect Joe because they are going to ask the question of will he pardon him if convicted. And the tax trial will bring up questions of corruption as well. So yes, it will affect him.
Of course, you will ask but most won't care because Hunter Biden has never held office. Yet you do not care that Biden's opponent has over 91 indictments and his children held office and walked away with billions.
 
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Of course, you will ask but most won't care because Hunter Biden has never held office. Yet you do not care that Biden's opponent has over 91 indictments and his children held office and walked away with billions.
My opinion on Trump is this. I Always said try him, charge me and convict him if he is guilty. Whether he goes to jail or not has zero affect on my life. Literally zero. No politician isx
worth my loyalty.

My predictions are about objective opinion, and not actual subjective wants.

As for Hunter he is a Nepo baby and as representative of what is wrong in Washington as anyone. And btw it is due to the laws that shielded Hunter and "Normal" politicians that Trump and his kids are free as well of actual corruption charges.

Blame the laws and the politicians you revere as "normalized" who created them for the rise of Trump. And what has happened. He rose in the vacuum.
 

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The problem with Biden is he is boring, middle of the road insignificance.
Now Trump is interesting, bring to mind the Chinese curse "may you live in interesting times".

One of the late night guys summed up Biden as the country's safety school.
 

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My opinion on Trump is this. I Always said try him, charge me and convict him if he is guilty. Whether he goes to jail or not has zero affect on my life. ...
You're really saying the choice of president for one of the world's most significant geopolitical and economic engines has zero affect on your life?


p.s. If you really believed it, you wouldn't have spent so much energy over the past few election cycles going after the Democratic candidates.


p.p.s. Concerns about Biden pardoning his son are rather ridiculous considering the talk of who Trump is going to pardon. I wonder if US law allows a President to pardon himself from the jail cell?
 

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You're really saying the choice of president for one of the world's most significant geopolitical and economic engines has zero affect on your life?


p.s. If you really believed it, you wouldn't have spent so much energy over the past few election cycles going after the Democratic candidates.


p.p.s. Concerns about Biden pardoning his son are rather ridiculous considering the talk of who Trump is going to pardon. I wonder if US law allows a President to pardon himself from the jail cell?
So four years of Trump, except for the fact he pushed and signed off for vaccine research during covid had zero affect on my life. Seriously. I worked, led my life, and lived quite normally. No wars, no major events he caused through policy, just a lot of fluff really.

And it was the same for you.

And I enjoy going after Dem candidates because of the frothing that occurs should anyone question them on their motives and policies. I love pointing out the hypocrisy. Israel is the perfect example. His policy is Republican policy. It may actually be MORE right wing.

As for pardons I agree. He shouldn't be able to pardon himself anymore than Joe should be able to pardon Hunter. Yet you and I know what happens with Outgoing Presidents and questionable pardons for donors, don't we?

Again. What is wrong with pointing out issues when others won't? I'd say there are quite enough posters happy to point out Trump's failings. He has enough. But why does that mean Biden's are off limits?

The answer seems to be fear.
 

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So four years of Trump, except for the fact he pushed and signed off for vaccine research during covid had zero affect on my life. ...
So I guess all your talk about understanding economics is meaningless. Are you living in a place that hasn't had to deal with the significant cost of living increases?



p.s. trumps GOP doesn't have policies, they have tweets.
 
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So I guess all your talk about understanding economics is meaningless. Are you living in a place that hasn't had to deal with the significant cost of living increases?



p.s. trumps GOP doesn't have policies, they have tweets.
Cost of living increases are due to post covid corporations raising prices, collusion (see recent oil company findings), an overheated stock market, and other factors.

In fact it is much more about Congressional oversight and laws than the President if you want to lay blame. Biden made the error of calling it Bidenomics thinking they would get a post Covid spending boom. He listened to his rich advisors and didn't see the real problems out there. So now he has to own it. And its always the guy in office who takes the hit or gets the credit.

You wouldn't credit Trump if things were good, would you? Same timeline though. I get that Biden has little control over parts of the Economy. Some regulation and thats about it beyond anti trust investigation. But he has been part of the legislation since 1970's and a leader in many cases on setting up how it works. A large cog in the machine. To deny that is to deny reality.

As for me beyond some increased food costs I'm in good shape. I continue to have more at the end of the month. And that is due to no stupid debt, no consumer debt, living within my means, making logical and not emotional decisions. Saying no to some spending, or finding alternatives that work. Hell this year we are spending more for some outdoor renos. Both for personal enjoyment and it will add house value. But to do so we chose to cut back on vacation spending. Thats life. Trade offs.

You wanna blame Trump? Great. Then you also have to say Trudeau is also mainly responsible for all local conditions. Lets see you do that.
 

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Donald Trump and now even his daughter-in-law are breeding some grounds for claiming in advance that "The Elections Were Stolen" in the manner that they are spreading this debunked misinformation, if Trump does not win the elections:

 

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So a gun charge is going to affect Joe??
No.
The non-stop press coverage will.
The media is going to feel they need to be "balanced" and so will treat the Hunter Biden trial as if it is the same as the Donald Trump one.

The hope from the Trump supporters (not without merit) is that it will sound to most people like "Both Trump and Biden have legal problems" just like in 2016 the coverage made sure to let people think "Clinton and Trump both have scandals".
This neutralizes a weakness of Trump's, by making it seem like they are equally bad, since most people won't read the details.

Of course, you will ask but most won't care because Hunter Biden has never held office. Yet you do not care that Biden's opponent has over 91 indictments and his children held office and walked away with billions.
You're misunderstanding what Butler is saying.
It's the messaging that will matter.
It can be used to spin a narrative.
Like Butler says, the press will use it to ask Biden if he will give a pardon.
Then it allows people to say "See? They both have issues with pardons."

It's all about the perception.
 

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No.
The non-stop press coverage will.
The media is going to feel they need to be "balanced" and so will treat the Hunter Biden trial as if it is the same as the Donald Trump one.

The hope from the Trump supporters (not without merit) is that it will sound to most people like "Both Trump and Biden have legal problems" just like in 2016 the coverage made sure to let people think "Clinton and Trump both have scandals".
This neutralizes a weakness of Trump's, by making it seem like they are equally bad, since most people won't read the details.



You're misunderstanding what Butler is saying.
It's the messaging that will matter.
It can be used to spin a narrative.
Like Butler says, the press will use it to ask Biden if he will give a pardon.
Then it allows people to say "See? They both have issues with pardons."

It's all about the perception.
I suspect the team behind Biden will be hopefully ahead of these tactics which it's evident the Trump team will attempt to smear shit wherever they can.
 
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I suspect the team behind Biden will be hopefully ahead of these tactics which it's evident the Trump team will attempt to smear shit wherever they can.
They can only do so much when the press is dedicated to push a narrative.
 

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Beats me why Biden is getting all the bad press. To me, he seems just like a 'normal' President. Does some good things, a few great things, a few wonky things and is generally acceptable.
I really hope he wins the next US election. Too bad the office will likely kill him and god help us if what's-her-name (assuming it's still her as VP) gets in. I'd so a very public Happy Dance if Elizabeth Warren got in....MAYBE Gabbard with another 10 years of experience.
 

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Beats me why Biden is getting all the bad press.
The mainstream media defaults to a Republican narrative for many things.

But there are other influences of importance, not the least of which is that a close race is more exciting and sells more papers than a boring one where the winner is obvious.
The illusion of "we are being fair" is also important to maintain.
So if Trump has lots and lots of legal issues, then the press is incentivized to report on Hunter Biden so that things "seem fair".


To me, he seems just like a 'normal' President. Does some good things, a few great things, a few wonky things and is generally acceptable.
That would be a very realistic view.
I think I would include "does some actively bad things" as well. (That may have been included in "wonky" but I think there is a difference.)

I really hope he wins the next US election. Too bad the office will likely kill him and god help us if what's-her-name (assuming it's still her as VP) gets in. I'd so a very public Happy Dance if Elizabeth Warren got in....MAYBE Gabbard with another 10 years of experience.
Why anyone would want Gabbard is beyond me, but sure.

Warren would have been good, but her appeal was fairly narrow in the end.
 
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