Johnson Aziga - Known HIV carrier

[sugarmama]

uh huh

not sure if someone made this point or not...ok so lets hypothesize, sure she may have requested they use condoms, lets say they said no, BIG F***ing whoop. Knowing she was infected with the virus means she has a legal and moral responsibility to inform them. ATLEAST make them wear a condom or don't screw them at all! There is absolutely no excuse. I don't care if you've been victimized to shit, I don't care if these guys had it comming for them, I don't care if they begged her to not use a condom, SHE STILL SHOULD HAVE HAD ENOUGH COMPASSION AND RESPECT FOR THE HUMAN RACE to not spread the virus any further. God damn. I hope she rots in prison.

 

[GTATemptations]

I did not paint her as a "poor victim" completely devoid of any responsibility here. There are lots of women who are absolutely victims and have committed heinous crimes as a result of that victimization and that does not mean that they cannot be held accountable for their actions.

I did, however, respond to the comment that it was appropriate for the media to flash her picture on the news at this time.This is a demonstration of the completely bizarre logic that allows the men to be freed of any responsibility in this situation (and allows a hobbyist who insists on bb activities with his sp to blame her if he picks up an infections from her last customer - who insisted and cajolled his way into the same thing!)

The suggestion that it would be ok to have unprotected sex with her otherwise is beyond irresponsible. You, and only you, can be the culpable authority in your own safety in every circumstance of voluntary interaction. You can never have real knowledge of what is going on with anyone - where they have been and what they have contacted and the information about risk and transmission is readily and widely available. Ultimately you made the choice to participate in the activities that put you at risk - and you have no one to blame but yourself if you lose that crap shoot.

To propose that there is a context in which unprotected sex with a relative stranger - particularly one who is known to indulge in polyamoury - is an acceptable decision can only reflect a deep seated death wish. You bet your life!

I agree 100% with LD
these so called 'victims' should be pointing the finger at themselves also

 

[train]

I agree 100% with LD
these so called 'victims' should be pointing the finger at themselves also

I respect you're courage in agreeing with a fairly unpopular opinion. If you work in this industry and have this opinion then I think it would be useful for people to know your working name.

 

[AA_date]

I respect you`re courage in agreeing with a fairly unpopular opinion. If you work in this industry and have this opinion then I think it would be useful for people to know your working name.

It`s Nicole Boudoir

GTATemptations has been banned for shilling Nicole (from the same IP#)

Nicole Boudoir
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=83775&page=1

 

[Asterix]

I don't want to get involved in all the discussion about who is a victim and who is at fault because it goes nowhere, but I will say this. Nothing is black and white, but I still consider that as a man I have a greater responsibility to be careful, for obvious reasons. Besides the risk of impregnating somone, men also have a far higher rate of transmitting HIV, than women do to men. To put it bluntly, it's all about plumbing. Then there is always that pesky little man we all have that would just as soon dispense with condoms altogether. If some men choose to see this as their being unfairly singled out, well, that's their problem. I'm not suggesting women don't share responsibility, just that a man's is greater.

 

[MarkII]

From what I personally know of this unfortunate story:

I don't believe the woman had sex knowing she was HIV positive.

Hence, the men she engaged with can't be held responsible further than "only an idiot would have sex in 2004/2005 with a stranger without a condom". Not a great statement but, it is reality.

As to the HIV+ not being AIDS...well thats unfortunately simply a question of time and diagnosis. And while a person might not have full blown AIDS at that time they ARE still passing the virus to another person.

Also, I believe that both men and women are responsible for their own personal safety during sexual interaction.

You can't sit back and say.."He/She should have told me!..." Make the assumption that they might NOT know what other partners did. DUH!!!

With this woman in question, it's a very sad story no matter how you look at it.

She came back to where she had a comfort zone, a changed woman by all accounts.

There she knew she would find young men in a highly charged combat training situation ready for any "challenge".

From the reports I've seen this woman after her marriage broke up came back to Borden. Most likely there were some self esteem issues and she found the right combination for her in this enviornment. People who paid attention to her, made her feel important...as adults sitting back and examining ..it was for the wrong reasons. In her mind she was probably just trying to cope as many of us do on a daily basis.

Correct me if I'm wrong..but is the story also including one soldier who is being tested after first testing positive? I think that was the crutch of the story whenh first broadcast.

As to the media....keep in mind..they have no conscience. They will tell any story..especially during the ratings periods...and pay the lawsuits after. We're in ratings right now..until May 28th. CBC while a National broadcaster is not exempt from ratings..they do sell advertising before and after newscasts at a premium.

Media is not there for the public good as they love to tout. It's a buisness...and nothing more noble than that.

Any way you look at this story from CFB Borden..no one wins. She was wrong at some point for not having protected sex for her own personal safety during a prior encounter. That is her own responsibility to herself.

The soldiers were also wrong for not having protected sex for their personal safety. That was their responsibility and no one elses.

This is a mix of lack of self esteem, booze, testosterone and timing gone bad.

 

[djk]

I'm not suggesting women don't share responsibility, just that a man's is greater.

Such a patronizing attitude towards women, imho.

 

[Asterix]

Not patronizing at all. If the risks were the same, the responsibility would be the same. If I am more likely to be able to injure someone than they me, I share a greater obligation to be careful. I would apply the same idea to any similar situation.