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Just found out I am diabetic.

Insidious Von

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Cinnamon is good, avoid nutmeg it's a mild depressant...depending on how much you use.
 

Insidious Von

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Keto diet is high fat, not high carb.
High protein leads to rabbit starvation, the keto diet doesn't do that.
I went to Japanese restaurant and ordered a custom chirasci (sashimi on a bed of rice) of salmon and mackerel. There is just as much fat in that bowl as there is in a beacon burger. After eating it I felt rejuvenated.

Nutritionists don't know what they're talks about, for years fat was poison. It's sugar that breaks you down, not fat. You need fat to stay limber as you age - but mixing it with simple carbs is very bad. If I can go through the rest of my life without the need for hip replacement surgery, I'll be a happy man.

Ginger tea is good, real fresh brewed green tea is even better. Not the bottled sugary shit.
 

D-Fens

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Looking back I should have seen this coming. I'm not overweight. However I ate a lot of junk food over the years.. The trips to Tim Hortons and Dairy Queen have all caught up with me I guess. I'd always buy a candy bar at lunch break at work. I was arrogant to think that I could just eat whatever I wanted and it wouldn't matter as long as I exercised. I thought if I exercised I could "cheat" and eat unhealthy things. What you put in your body always matters no matter what you are doing. I know that now. Eating a lot of junk food, coupled with my lack of sleep and stress and anxiety this was bound to happen.

My biggest issue is just the chrnonic fatigue... how do you deal with it? and because of it my libido is in the toilet.
 

LTO_3

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Looking back I should have seen this coming. I'm not overweight. However I ate a lot of junk food over the years.. The trips to Tim Hortons and Dairy Queen have all caught up with me I guess. I'd always buy a candy bar at lunch break at work. I was arrogant to think that I could just eat whatever I wanted and it wouldn't matter as long as I exercised. I thought if I exercised I could "cheat" and eat unhealthy things. What you put in your body always matters no matter what you are doing. I know that now. Eating a lot of junk food, coupled with my lack of sleep and stress and anxiety this was bound to happen.

My biggest issue is just the chrnonic fatigue... how do you deal with it? and because of it my libido is in the toilet.
Sorry you have diabetes but with good management and control you'll be okay but it also takes some work to do that. Since it runs in the family it should have been suspected to show up. I've had it for more years than I care to say but mine is well controlled and in the long run that is a benefit.

The first thing I'd like to correct is what you mentioned in your statement. Eating sugar/junk food does NOT cause diabetes! never has and never will. But those foods do significantly increase your blood sugars and if the body can't compensate or use it, with time you will feel sluggish and feel tired even if you slept well, etc. Being overweight doesn't help either.

These are my suggestions. Have your family doctor refer you to an endocrinologist who's specialty in diabetes. Although family doctors are good, see a specialist. Have witnessed and heard too many horror stories when the family doctor are the primary care specialist for someone with type 2 diabetes.

When you see the endocrinologist besides the initial blood work etc, this doctor should refer you to a dietician/nutritionist to help revise your diet. What's real important is to tell them or record exactly what you eat. Take my word for it, lying because you might feel embarrassed only hurts you in the long run. The more valid info they have the better they can make your diet work for you. And if you don't agree with them, let them know because a good dietician is there to help and not starve you, even though that's what you may initially think.

AND test, test, test your blood sugars. Sadly most type 2 diabetics are told or might just test about 1 or 2 times a day. BIG mistake. Test 4 times a day. Yes it's a lot - I do that as a minimum - but these records help you and you doctor better control your condition. also let's your doctor know if your type 2 meds are working properly.

Although many good suggestions have been given about changes to your diet, get your diabetes controlled as well as your diet. Once that is done, then consider some of the diet suggestions made here if that's what you want to do but that will be easier once your diabetes is under control.

Since you mentioned your overweight, your newer diet and exercise will help you lose some weight and your control of diabetes will be easier and may require less medication.

That's my short version but if you have any questions please let me know I'll be more than willing to help.

LTO_3
 

D-Fens

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Sorry you have diabetes but with good management and control you'll be okay but it also takes some work to do that. Since it runs in the family it should have been suspected to show up. I've had it for more years than I care to say but mine is well controlled and in the long run that is a benefit.

The first thing I'd like to correct is what you mentioned in your statement. Eating sugar/junk food does NOT cause diabetes! never has and never will. But those foods do significantly increase your blood sugars and if the body can't compensate or use it, with time you will feel sluggish and feel tired even if you slept well, etc. Being overweight doesn't help either.

These are my suggestions. Have your family doctor refer you to an endocrinologist who's specialty in diabetes. Although family doctors are good, see a specialist. Have witnessed and heard too many horror stories when the family doctor are the primary care specialist for someone with type 2 diabetes.

When you see the endocrinologist besides the initial blood work etc, this doctor should refer you to a dietician/nutritionist to help revise your diet. What's real important is to tell them or record exactly what you eat. Take my word for it, lying because you might feel embarrassed only hurts you in the long run. The more valid info they have the better they can make your diet work for you. And if you don't agree with them, let them know because a good dietician is there to help and not starve you, even though that's what you may initially think.

AND test, test, test your blood sugars. Sadly most type 2 diabetics are told or might just test about 1 or 2 times a day. BIG mistake. Test 4 times a day. Yes it's a lot - I do that as a minimum - but these records help you and you doctor better control your condition. also let's your doctor know if your type 2 meds are working properly.

Although many good suggestions have been given about changes to your diet, get your diabetes controlled as well as your diet. Once that is done, then consider some of the diet suggestions made here if that's what you want to do but that will be easier once your diabetes is under control.

Since you mentioned your overweight, your newer diet and exercise will help you lose some weight and your control of diabetes will be easier and may require less medication.

That's my short version but if you have any questions please let me know I'll be more than willing to help.

LTO_3
I'm not overweight. My Body Mass Index is 21.
 

MissElizabeth

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Your tiredness may go away once your medication really kicks in. If it doesn't get your thyroid checked and talk to your doc. It does take a bit to get your body back to the right levels. I don't know if your doc checked for ketones, but I would recommend going to the pharmacy to pick up some keto sticks, they are about 10$ for 50, the just piddle on the stick and see what colour it turns. Even if you have a small amount of ketones it does affect your energy levels. The heat also will affect your energy as it can make your BG numbers wonky.

If you have a drug plan, get your doctor to fill out a form stating that you have a existing condition that affects your sexual drive. Submit this to your insurance company and Cialis is 98% of the time covered. A lot of just diagnosed diabetics do well with the 5mg or 10mg daily dose. I don't know if Viagra would be covered though but I would assume yes.
 

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I'm not overweight. My Body Mass Index is 21.
Best advice for you is to take advice from your family doctor or a diabetic specialist not from some anonymous user of escort review board. Bottomline is your health! If you get sick you can't work and make money!! Type 2 diabetes definition from mayo clinc
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/type-2-diabetes/symptoms-causes/syc-20351193

Type 2 diabetes, once known as adult-onset or noninsulin-dependent diabetes, is a chronic condition that affects the way your body metabolizes sugar (glucose), your body's important source of fuel.

With type 2 diabetes, your body either resists the effects of insulin — a hormone that regulates the movement of sugar into your cells — or doesn't produce enough insulin to maintain a normal glucose level.

More common in adults, type 2 diabetes increasingly affects children as childhood obesity increases. There's no cure for type 2 diabetes, but you may be able to manage the condition by eating well, exercising and maintaining a healthy weight. If diet and exercise aren't enough to manage your blood sugar well, you also may need diabetes medications or insulin therapy.

Symptoms

Signs and symptoms of type 2 diabetes often develop slowly. In fact, you can have type 2 diabetes for years and not know it. Look for:

Increased thirst and frequent urination. Excess sugar building up in your bloodstream causes fluid to be pulled from the tissues. This may leave you thirsty. As a result, you may drink — and urinate — more than usual.
Increased hunger. Without enough insulin to move sugar into your cells, your muscles and organs become depleted of energy. This triggers intense hunger.
Weight loss. Despite eating more than usual to relieve hunger, you may lose weight. Without the ability to metabolize glucose, the body uses alternative fuels stored in muscle and fat. Calories are lost as excess glucose is released in the urine.
Fatigue. If your cells are deprived of sugar, you may become tired and irritable.
Blurred vision. If your blood sugar is too high, fluid may be pulled from the lenses of your eyes. This may affect your ability to focus.
Slow-healing sores or frequent infections. Type 2 diabetes affects your ability to heal and resist infections.
Areas of darkened skin. Some people with type 2 diabetes have patches of dark, velvety skin in the folds and creases of their bodies — usually in the armpits and neck. This condition, called acanthosis nigricans, may be a sign of insulin resistance.
How insulin works

Insulin is a hormone that comes from the gland situated behind and below the stomach (pancreas).

The pancreas secretes insulin into the bloodstream.
The insulin circulates, enabling sugar to enter your cells.
Insulin lowers the amount of sugar in your bloodstream.
As your blood sugar level drops, so does the secretion of insulin from your pancreas.
The role of glucose

Glucose — a sugar — is a main source of energy for the cells that make up muscles and other tissues.

Glucose comes from two major sources: food and your liver.
Sugar is absorbed into the bloodstream, where it enters cells with the help of insulin.
Your liver stores and makes glucose.
When your glucose levels are low, such as when you haven't eaten in a while, the liver breaks down stored glycogen into glucose to keep your glucose level within a normal range.
In type 2 diabetes, this process doesn't work well. Instead of moving into your cells, sugar builds up in your bloodstream. As blood sugar levels increase, the insulin-producing beta cells in the pancreas release more insulin, but eventually these cells become impaired and can't make enough insulin to meet the body's demands.

In the much less common type 1 diabetes, the immune system destroys the beta cells, leaving the body with little to no insulin.

Risk factors

Researchers don't fully understand why some people develop type 2 diabetes and others don't. It's clear, however, that certain factors increase the risk, including:

Weight. Being overweight is a primary risk factor for type 2 diabetes. The more fatty tissue you have, the more resistant your cells become to insulin. However, you don't have to be overweight to develop type 2 diabetes.
Fat distribution. If your body stores fat primarily in your abdomen, your risk of type 2 diabetes is greater than if your body stores fat elsewhere, such as your hips and thighs.
Inactivity. The less active you are, the greater your risk of type 2 diabetes. Physical activity helps you control your weight, uses up glucose as energy and makes your cells more sensitive to insulin.
Family history. The risk of type 2 diabetes increases if your parent or sibling has type 2 diabetes.
Race. Although it's unclear why, people of certain races — including blacks, Hispanics, American Indians and Asian-Americans — are more likely to develop type 2 diabetes than whites are.
Age. The risk of type 2 diabetes increases as you get older, especially after age 45. That's probably because people tend to exercise less, lose muscle mass and gain weight as they age. But type 2 diabetes is also increasing dramatically among children, adolescents and younger adults.
Prediabetes. Prediabetes is a condition in which your blood sugar level is higher than normal, but not high enough to be classified as diabetes. Left untreated, prediabetes often progresses to type 2 diabetes.
Gestational diabetes. If you developed gestational diabetes when you were pregnant, your risk of developing type 2 diabetes increases. If you gave birth to a baby weighing more than 9 pounds (4 kilograms), you're also at risk of type 2 diabetes.
Polycystic ovarian syndrome. For women, having polycystic ovarian syndrome — a common condition characterized by irregular menstrual periods, excess hair growth and obesity — increases the risk of diabetes.
Complications

Type 2 diabetes can be easy to ignore, especially in the early stages when you're feeling fine. But diabetes affects many major organs, including your heart, blood vessels, nerves, eyes and kidneys. Controlling your blood sugar levels can help prevent these complications.

Although long-term complications of diabetes develop gradually, they can eventually be disabling or even life-threatening. Some of the potential complications of diabetes include:

Heart and blood vessel disease. Diabetes dramatically increases the risk of various cardiovascular problems, including coronary artery disease with chest pain (angina), heart attack, stroke, narrowing of arteries (atherosclerosis) and high blood pressure.
Nerve damage (neuropathy). Excess sugar can injure the walls of the tiny blood vessels (capillaries) that nourish your nerves, especially in the legs. This can cause tingling, numbness, burning or pain that usually begins at the tips of the toes or fingers and gradually spreads upward. Poorly controlled blood sugar can eventually cause you to lose all sense of feeling in the affected limbs. Damage to the nerves that control digestion can cause problems with nausea, vomiting, diarrhea or constipation. For men, erectile dysfunction may be an issue.
Kidney damage (nephropathy). The kidneys contain millions of tiny blood vessel clusters that filter waste from your blood. Diabetes can damage this delicate filtering system. Severe damage can lead to kidney failure or irreversible end-stage kidney disease, which often eventually requires dialysis or a kidney transplant.
Eye damage. Diabetes can damage the blood vessels of the retina (diabetic retinopathy), potentially leading to blindness. Diabetes also increases the risk of other serious vision conditions, such as cataracts and glaucoma.
Foot damage. Nerve damage in the feet or poor blood flow to the feet increases the risk of various foot complications. Left untreated, cuts and blisters can become serious infections, which may heal poorly. Severe damage might require toe, foot or leg amputation.
Hearing impairment. Hearing problems are more common in people with diabetes.
Skin conditions. Diabetes may leave you more susceptible to skin problems, including bacterial and fungal infections.
Alzheimer's disease. Type 2 diabetes may increase the risk of Alzheimer's disease. The poorer your blood sugar control, the greater the risk appears to be. The exact connection between these two conditions still remains unclear.
Prevention

Healthy lifestyle choices can help you prevent type 2 diabetes. Even if you have diabetes in your family, diet and exercise can help you prevent the disease. If you've already received a diagnosis of diabetes, you can use healthy lifestyle choices to help prevent complications. And if you have prediabetes, lifestyle changes can slow or halt the progression from prediabetes to diabetes.

Eat healthy foods. Choose foods lower in fat and calories and higher in fiber. Focus on fruits, vegetables and whole grains.
Get physical. Aim for a minimum of 30 minutes of moderate physical activity a day. Take a brisk daily walk. Ride a bike. Swim laps. If you can't fit in a long workout, spread 10-minute or longer sessions throughout the day.
Lose excess pounds. If you're overweight, losing 7 percent of your body weight can reduce the risk of diabetes. To keep your weight in a healthy range, focus on permanent changes to your eating and exercise habits. Motivate yourself by remembering the benefits of losing weight, such as a healthier heart, more energy and improved self-esteem.
Sometimes medication is an option as well. Metformin (Glucophage, Glumetza, others), an oral diabetes medication, may reduce the risk of type 2 diabetes — but healthy lifestyle choices remain essential.
 
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D-Fens

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Of course I am going to my doctor, and will be talking to a dietician. i am simply wondering about other people's experiences and how they cope and what they have to deal with.
One odd thing that happens late at night is that I get this burst of energy. I go through the whole day feeling tired then at night, for some reason I feel almost normal, not quite but almost.
 

D-Fens

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Your tiredness may go away once your medication really kicks in. If it doesn't get your thyroid checked and talk to your doc. It does take a bit to get your body back to the right levels. I don't know if your doc checked for ketones, but I would recommend going to the pharmacy to pick up some keto sticks, they are about 10$ for 50, the just piddle on the stick and see what colour it turns. Even if you have a small amount of ketones it does affect your energy levels. The heat also will affect your energy as it can make your BG numbers wonky.

If you have a drug plan, get your doctor to fill out a form stating that you have a existing condition that affects your sexual drive. Submit this to your insurance company and Cialis is 98% of the time covered. A lot of just diagnosed diabetics do well with the 5mg or 10mg daily dose. I don't know if Viagra would be covered though but I would assume yes.

I'm not getting erectile dysfunction. I can still get hard It's just a lack of energy and desire. I feel once my fatigue issues are addressed. It'll go back to normal. I was planning on hobbying but I think I am going to hold off for now.
 

Harley

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My name is Harley, and I have been a diabetic for 25 years. I am now 72.
My finger tips have always been sore from doing finger pricks to test my blood 3 or 4 times a day. I just found this last month.
https://libre.myfreestyle.ca/
This has changed my life. No more finger pricks, and I can test my blood as many times a day as I like with no pain. My control is much better. It is fairly expensive, but well worth the price. I can't say enough good things about it. I can quickly test anywhere... even in the car while driving. I just turn it on, wave it near where the patch is, and read the meter. Easy. No wipes or lances to dispose of.
The only drawback is that even though private insurance covers it, the government health plan won't.
Diet and exercise are important too, but you have to know what your numbers are so you can adjust your lifestyle.

I hope that this helps you.

Harley
 

frankcastle

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I'm pre diabetic which is why I joined a gym and changed the way that I eat. There are those out there who claim you can reverse type 2 diabetes through diet. I think at the very least even if it doesn't reverse type 2.... there's no harm in eating well.

There are also small things you can do by switching your choice is say tea. Chai, peppermint for example are teas that are supposed to help regulate blood sugar levels and stave of appetite.

You'll notice that I am using words like claim and supposed because I'm personally skeptical but willing to give it a try.

If you go the keto route look into bullet coffee.... basically coffee, coconut oil (don't pay extra for bottles of mct oil as essentially that's what coconut oil is), butter some spices. I find it's a great way to start the day (if you are a morning coffee drinker).

I think the keys are be patient.... it took a long time for you to develop type 2 and you're not going to suddenly manage it in days. Whatever you choose to do make a plan to help it happen.... e.g. won't go to SP unless I went to gym X times or stock the cupboards with the ingredients and foods you need to abide by diet X, start packing lunches so you don't cheat at work).

Best of luck.
 

frankcastle

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On a funny note.... here's an illustration of my terrible relationship with sugar. So I go to a lifelabs to do a glucouse test. I have to drink a sugary drink which basically tastes like a chilled orange freezie. It tasted so good I chugged it so fast the lady was surprised and said "wow you must like that drink"
 

NorthernBear

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I have been diagnosed with type 2 for about 7 years now and am doing all right just taking my pills. I do not adhere to any strict diet plans but if your doctor suggests that you visit a diabetic nurse it is advisable.

Also, if she prescribes pills and Metformin is one of them, ask her about Janumet, which is a combination of Metformin and Januvia. It works better for me than just Metformin. Another drug that I just started taking as of today is called Voltaren or something like that.
I can look at the bottle and give you the proper name if you want. It is supposed to help reduce the risk of diarrhea when taking Metformin.

Good luck with your tests and we can only hope that you get a clean bill of health.
 

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I have been diagnosed with type 2 for about 7 years now and am doing all right just taking my pills. I do not adhere to any strict diet plans but if your doctor suggests that you visit a diabetic nurse it is advisable.

Also, if she prescribes pills and Metformin is one of them, ask her about Janumet, which is a combination of Metformin and Januvia. It works better for me than just Metformin. Another drug that I just started taking as of today is called Voltaren or something like that.
I can look at the bottle and give you the proper name if you want. It is supposed to help reduce the risk of diarrhea when taking Metformin.

Good luck with your tests and we can only hope that you get a clean bill of health.
Janumet is NOT for everyone. It actually worsened my A1C to almost 10 or 10.5 and gave me hellish digestive stress. There are many new medications that are now used and each diabetic is different in their response to them. I use Jardiance once a day with Metformin, and a shot of Trulicity once a week, and my A1C are below 7 very easily.
 

D-Fens

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My mother got diabetes when she was about the same age as me. She was 34. I am 33 now The doctor even predicted that I would get it at the about same time as her.

It arrived, just like clockwork
 

yomero5

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I've been on the Ketogenic diet for 5 months. The first month was tough but now it's much easier. I lost over 20 lb of fat and look better than I have in years.
 
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