Justin Trudeau: Let's Sing Kum-Ba-Yah

[Anynym]

Justin Trudeau gave an interview to Peter Mansbridge the other day (airing this weekend, apparently), and was asked about how he would respond to an attack such as happened in Boston a few hours earlier.

From the Sun coverage of the online CBC video:

The neophyte Liberal leader said that beyond "any material immediate support" Canada should "look at the root causes."

"But there is no question that this happened because there is someone who feels completely excluded, completely at war with innocents, at war with a society. And our approach has to be, okay, where do those tensions come from?" he said.

On Wednesday, following his first caucus meeting on Parliament Hill, Trudeau ducked a question on what those root causes might be.

Anyone who thinks evil exists because the perpetrators didn't get enough hugs at home has no place running the country.

 

[wigglee]

Justin Trudeau gave an interview to Peter Mansbridge the other day (airing this weekend, apparently), and was asked about how he would respond to an attack such as happened in Boston a few hours earlier.

From the Sun coverage of the online CBC video:

Anyone who thinks evil exists because the perpetrators didn't get enough hugs at home has no place running the country.

You are the idiot who gives this scenario quasi religious overtones by calling it "evil". The people of Iraq, Pakistan and Alfghanistan think the U.S. is evil, don't they?

Perhaps we should actually try and talk to al qaida and see if we can co-exist, instead of launching drones and refusing to talk. Otherwise this will never end and the death toll will just keep growing.

Trudeau actually touched on the heart of the matter and I applaud him for it.

 

[groggy]

Anyone who thinks evil exists because the perpetrators didn't get enough hugs at home has no place running the country.

Anyone who doesn't understand that terrorism can be ended through addressing wrongs, as happened with the IRA, is just going to head straight down the George Bush rabbit hole of torture, assassination and illegal wars.
Do you prefer the way the Iraq war went or the way the IRA was defused?

 

[Aardvark154]

Anyone who doesn't understand that terrorism can be ended through addressing wrongs, as happened with the IRA, is just going to head straight down the George Bush rabbit hole of torture, assassination and illegal wars.
Do you prefer the way the Iraq war went or the way the IRA was defused?

Is the above simplistic or is it simplistic,

The IRA was a secular not a Religious organization (although there was a denominational aspect to it). No member of the IRA felt that they were going to eternal damnation if they didn't murder others, or contrariwise that they would be assured a place in Paradise if they did.

The Troubles in Northern Ireland went on for three decades, during which time the Government was not just sitting there. Hence all parties felt there was benefit to attempting to end the violence.

 

[Aardvark154]

Anynym, at present indeed he is at sea.

 

[groggy]

Is the above simplistic or is it simplistic,

The IRA was a secular not a Religious organization (although there was a denominational aspect to it). No member of the IRA felt that they were going to eternal damnation if they didn't murder others, or contrariwise that they would be assured a place in Paradise if they did.

The Troubles in Northern Ireland went on for three decades, during which time the Government was not just sitting there. Hence all parties felt there was benefit to attempting to end the violence.

And when Bin Laden made public his views they were largely about injustices.
(not that Bin Laden had anything to do with terrorism, perhaps I should have used Afghanistan as an example)

Simple, yes, simplistic no.

Just about every place there is terrorism there are major issues and in almost no case is it purely religious.
If you want simplistic, try the George Bush, 'they hate us for our freedom', now that's simplistic and wrong.

 

[Anynym]

Anyone who doesn't understand that terrorism can be ended through addressing wrongs, as happened with the IRA, is just going to head straight down the George Bush rabbit hole of torture, assassination and illegal wars.
Do you prefer the way the Iraq war went or the way the IRA was defused?

Wow.

There aren't enough actual facts in that one to be worthy of a response. Plenty of lies from the "left" though, to avoid having to deal with, say, the number of bombs Clinton ordered dropped on Iraqi soil. Or that Obama has so far refused to do what he promised would be his very first act of Office - five years ago. Or that the history of violence in Northern Ireland had nothing to do with how many hugs the IRA gunmen got from their loving mothers and fathers.

Just wow.

 

[wigglee]

Wow.

There aren't enough actual facts in that one to be worthy of a response. Plenty of lies from the "left" though, to avoid having to deal with, say, the number of bombs Clinton ordered dropped on Iraqi soil. Or that Obama has so far refused to do what he promised would be his very first act of Office - five years ago. Or that the history of violence in Northern Ireland had nothing to do with how many hugs the IRA gunmen got from their loving mothers and fathers.

Just wow.

so tell us oh wiseman from the right....how is the tough, no negotiation stance and all the wars and bloodshed going? Are you happy with the results or do we just need to buck up and do even more killing? Then everything will be alright!

 

[Moviefan-2]

Like it or not, Trudeau's response to the question reaffirmed the Conservatives' position that Trudeau is in over his head.

In the video clip, he doesn't even look like he knows what he's talking about.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story...rudeau-root-causes-remarks.html?autoplay=true

 

[omegaphallic]

While I agree the root cause needs to be addressed ultimately so this doesn't happen again, its insensitive to say that now and say so poorly.

Everything has a time and place and Truduea fucked it up, don't say shit like that while the wound is fresh it sounds like your blaming the victims and making excuses for the killer/s. Phrase it better and wait till the right time to ask why.

As for the Drone attacks I hate them too and the so called pilots are both serial killers and cowards, but if Tom said it outright like that it would be a disaster for Canada. Its called diplomancy.

And the Drone attacks don't justify murdering and injurying these innocent people, they didn't do it and the Boston Maratheon has people from all over the world in it including from countries opposed to the drone attack.

The sad thing is you and people like (your not the first use this as a defence for Trudeau its on twitter as well) you think your helping Justin by making these statements, but your making this way worst then it would have been, because your defence will end up linked to Justin and what was a minor gaffe is evolving into a major one).

In other news Norman Spector made the point on twitter that the media support for Justin has nothing to do with stopping Harper and everything to do with stopping Mulcair.

https://twitter.com/nspector4

Oh btw its no accident that Justin supports the Nexen deal, his new chief of staff is was a lobbyist for it. Justin is just as corrupt as his predessors.

 

[omegaphallic]

Oh btw Justin "I won't go negative" Trudeau made a cheap shot at the NDP over the charter of rights and freedoms over the ndps position on Quebec clearly showing he's never read it.

 

[omegaphallic]

Like it or not, Trudeau's response to the question reaffirmed the Conservatives' position that Trudeau is in over his head.

In the video clip, he doesn't even look like he knows what he's talking about.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story...rudeau-root-causes-remarks.html?autoplay=true

Trudeau flailed about to offen and babbled, but the basic message of not lashing out at minorities was fine, it that he fucked up what I think he was trying to get at was lost in poor communication and left him open to attack.

 

[wigglee]

Trudeau flailed about to offen and babbled, but the basic message of not lashing out at minorities was fine, it that he fucked up what I think he was trying to get at was lost in poor communication and left him open to attack.

I know thw ndp and cons are trying to jump all over this trudeau interview, but from the clip I just saw, he was spot on and I agree 100% and he was as clear as possible considering that the specifics in this bombing are still unknown.

But of course the partisans will try to paint it as folly. I find the truth refreshing and I thought he was very tactful.

 

[elmo]

Trudeau is a child playing a man's game. If this is the best the Libs can do it will be a long time before they form a government. Perhaps they can give voters who do not vote for them a hug and get to the root cause of them voting for non-Lib candidates...

 

[blackrock13]

Trudeau is a child playing a man's game. If this is the best the Libs can do it will be a long time before they form a government. Perhaps they can give voters who do not vote for them a hug and get to the root cause of them voting for non-Lib candidates...

I love these kind of rants. How so?

 

[Davey905]

Justin Trudeau gave an interview to Peter Mansbridge the other day (airing this weekend, apparently), and was asked about how he would respond to an attack such as happened in Boston a few hours earlier.

From the Sun coverage of the online CBC video:

Anyone who thinks evil exists because the perpetrators didn't get enough hugs at home has no place running the country.

Trudeau is 100% right.

 

[red]

why do terrorists carry out these attacks?

insanity/religious fervour? thats part of it, but they are also people driven to extremes who have lost something/someone and have nothing left to lose and feel they have no options or way to seek redress.

 

[elmo]

I love these kind of rants. How so?

He basically told the US to get their house in order...seems to me he has no place in doing that with our neighbor and largest trading partner. That would be like having Americans telling us to get our shit together with Quebec. He is a very young politician and a completely inexperienced statesman whose comments make him sound like an idealistic child right out of some second rate university poly sci program. He may at some point be worthy of being the PM...but today is not that day and tomorrow isn't looking good either.

 

[blackrock13]

He basically told the US to get their house in order...seems to me he has no place in doing that with our neighbor and largest trading partner. That would be like having Americans telling us to get our shit together with Quebec. He is a very young politician and a completely inexperienced statesman whose comments make him sound like an idealistic child right out of some second rate university poly sci program. He may at some point be worthy of being the PM...but today is not that day and tomorrow isn't looking good either.

Really, we do it all the time on TERB. Was he wrong? The US is on the edge and doing some really crazy stuff and they have the abilit top take the rest of us with them, especially Canada. He is young, but not much younger or any less experienced than our present PM at that early stage. As one pundit said he grew up in a political family, surrounded by some of Canada's elite. he's not really starting form scratch.

I have said a couple of time that it's early for him, but who else was there? It's baptism by fire time.

If the PM's opening attack ad volley is a 15 year old clip of one comment from someone barely on the national political radar screen, then their cupboards is truly bare. Maybe someone could broadcast Harpers rants about getting rid of the Senate, which he did on more than one occasion. How about the famous cowboy hat photo and asking, 'would you vote for this guy'?

 

[dirk076]

You don't negotiate with terrorists. If they kill one of ours, we kill a hundred of theirs. It's the only thing they understand.