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Mcluhan

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onthebottom said:
I went to public school, they didn't allow that.

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I did as well, but we sang 'God Save the Queen" ;)

You definitely did not talk back to the teacher...unless you wanted to be brave afterward in the hallway that is, or the cloak room.
 

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Mcluhan said:
I did as well, but we sang 'God Save the Queen" ;)

You definitely did not talk back to the teacher...unless you wanted to be brave afterward in the hallway that is, or the cloak room.
Is that why you're all such pratts....


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Mcluhan said:
hehe..another thing we have in common, both bad little bastards. It was a badge of honour in my school of course. (sting is the word :)


I ,for some reason, not sure why, have always been able to easily annoy people. Never quite got the hang of being quiet and not speaking up. Sting is right, damn that thing stung like crazy.

Seems I'm still doing it.


I remember the standing at attention, facing HRH QEII picture on the classroom wall and singing God Save the Queen every morning. For good measure they also used "The Maple Leaf" before that trendy new jingle came along.
 

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LancsLad said:
I ,for some reason, not sure why, have always been able to easily annoy people.
You don't want us to tell you why, eh?
 

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Is that why you're all such pratts....


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That, old boy, is an affront to years of stoic "sticktoitness" that separates the Canadian doer from the American soft poser.:D
 

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Is there anyone out there who has read a little on the subject or seen any documentaries, or know anything about history/politics who actually does still think there was only 1 shooter
Me :)
 

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lookingforitallthetime said:
Mcluhan,

I too have read many books on the subject (although I wouldn't consider it as extensive as the research you've done).

Even if you consider the evidence available before the Freedom of Information Act's exposed evidence, it doesn't add up. A magic (and prestine) bullet, dead and ignored witnesses, a botched autopsy and missing evidence aside, the proof of the conspiracy is the Jack Ruby story, IMO.
Actually it appears that you are only reading conspiracy advocates material.

There was no magic, pristine bullet. The analysis of the video and photographs clearly show that the a magic bullet was not needed.

There is no evidence of a botched autopsy, however physical material did go missing. There is no proof but it is accepted that Bobby Kennedy eventally obtained the blood slides and the container holding the remaining brain material and had it destroyed so as not to be put on public display sometime in the future.

Jack Ruby is anything but proof. In fact if you read credible sources the Ruby timeline showed that is was pure luck in timing. However that does not preclude someone asked him to do it, only that if someone did put him up to it they did not exactly plan it well. The fact is Ruby was hanging out, had a gun, and was looking for an opportunity.
 

Mcluhan

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Actually it appears that you are only reading conspiracy advocates material.

There was no magic, pristine bullet. The analysis of the video and photographs clearly show that the a magic bullet was not needed.

There is no evidence of a botched autopsy, however physical material did go missing. There is no proof but it is accepted that Bobby Kennedy eventally obtained the blood slides and the container holding the remaining brain material and had it destroyed so as not to be put on public display sometime in the future.

Jack Ruby is anything but proof. In fact if you read credible sources the Ruby timeline showed that is was pure luck in timing. However that does not preclude someone asked him to do it, only that if someone did put him up to it they did not exactly plan it well. The fact is Ruby was hanging out, had a gun, and was looking for an opportunity.
Reading Posner again...he is good with telling 2/3 of the facts... perhaps do a complete study..then you might see a more whole picture. You can't refute all the evidence by pecking away at ruby...he's a very minor player.

Ruby was not part of the plan. He was an after thought... it was botched.
 

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Mcluhan said:
Reading Posner again...he is good with telling 2/3 of the facts... perhaps do a complete study..then you might see a more whole picture. You can't refute all the evidence by pecking away at ruby...he's a very minor player
I am not sure who Posner is, and I was not attempting to refute anything using Ruby. I was just interested if anyone actually knew what Ruby was doing a few minutes before the shooting and how it was decided when to transport Oswald. You are right, Ruby was very minor and is proof of nothing.
 

Mcluhan

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I am not sure who Posner is, and I was not attempting to refute anything using Ruby. I was just interested if anyone actually knew what Ruby was doing a few minutes before the shooting and how it was decided when to transport Oswald. You are right, Ruby was very minor and is proof of nothing.
yes, I get the point. Sorry to jump on you actually. Its a lot of farking reading to slog thru the bullshit.
 

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Mcluhan said:
yes, I get the point. Sorry to jump on you actually. Its a lot of farking reading to slog thru the bullshit.
You have to be very careful reading conspiracist material as they take things out of context, make dubious assumptions to support their claims and leave alot out.
 

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Mcluhan said:
Except I'm not the guy with 8,000 plus posts, at least 4,000 of them weakly defending a fearlessly lame leader.. :rolleyes:
LOL

No you're not, but maybe someday if you keep your nose to the grindstone....

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Mcluhan

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You have to be very careful reading conspiracist material as they take things out of context, make dubious assumptions to support their claims and leave alot out.
I'm not that easy to fool, and not that subjective. But thanks for the heads up.

back to the plot...

George DeMorenschildt in my opinion (and its a well-known idea) was Oswalds CIA hand*ler He was the man behind the scenes that pulled Oswald's strings. He moved to Haiti shortly after the assassination, among other things....far away from the scene. He surfaced one last time in the picture, years later...and then died in a hotel room from suicide.. :)

DeMorenschildt was supposed to testify regarding the assassination at a hearing and died the day before. lol.. the Kennedy assassination has more damn suicides....they keep turning up, as you keep looking..
 

Mcluhan

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onthebottom said:
LOL

No you're not, but maybe someday if you keep your nose to the grindstone....

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What are you going to do for a foil when I stop attacking Bush? Have you thought about that? I don't much like Hilary either...maybe she will win. :)
 

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LancsLad said:
That, old boy, is an affront to years of stoic "sticktoitness" that separates the Canadian doer from the American soft poser.:D
Canadian doer.... now that's a sense of humor.

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onthebottom said:
Canadian doer.... now that's a sense of humor.

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You clearly don't know "real" Canadians. The ones you see on CBC Cancon movies , on the news and in government are watered down politically correct imposters.
 

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Mcluhan said:
What are you going to do for a foil when I stop attacking Bush? Have you thought about that? I don't much like Hilary either...maybe she will win. :)
Oh, there's always the constant conspiracies and the anti-semitic views.

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LancsLad said:
You clearly don't know "real" Canadians. The ones you see on CBC Cancon movies , on the news and in government are watered down politically correct imposters.
I know quite a few actually, good sorts actually.

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Mcluhan

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Oh, there's always the constant conspiracies and the anti-semitic views.

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Ahh..you won't give up trying to falsely handle me with the anti-semitic wrap i see..one more time. Keep saying it, trying to get it to stick. Its a cowardly tactic actually. Its the typical weapon of the AIPAC league. You are like the little boy crying wolf OTB. The last time you tried that it was over my slamming Wolfowitz. You twist my criticism of Israel and her US cronies into the anti-semitic refrain. I give equal time to the evangelicals too. One God fanatic is no worse than the other. They all want to kill each other in God's name.
 
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