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Kim Potter Guilty

mandrill

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Why?.... Surely you have to be legally responsible if you shoot someone thinking that you have drawn a taser when in fact it's a pistol. It's about as clear negligence as you can have.

"I got confused when I saw the little girl on a scooter and thought the accelerator was a brake" is not a legal defence to vehicular homicide. It's sad as fuck. But it's not a defence.
 

jcpro

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This is a tough one.
It was clearly an accident but sometimes we have to pay for the accidents we caused. She is guilty under the law however I hope the judge has some discretion in the sentencing.
It is a tough one. Clearly she made a terrible mistake, the video is right there for all to see.
 

Leimonis

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"I got confused when I saw the little girl on a scooter and thought the accelerator was a brake" is not a legal defence to vehicular homicide. It's sad as fuck. But it's not a defence.
Come on, man. A "momentary lapse of attention" is a defence even to a careless driving, let alone to a dangerous driving causing death. You literally need a prolonged period of non-attention for a conviction. https://www.mcdougallgauley.com/insights/when-momentary-lapse-behind-wheel-criminal

I can see how she sure is civilly liable, but her conviction was not an obvious result and I am not sure if it would happen in Canada.
 
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Robert Mugabe

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Why?.... Surely you have to be legally responsible if you shoot someone thinking that you have drawn a taser when in fact it's a pistol. It's about as clear negligence as you can have.

"I got confused when I saw the little girl on a scooter and thought the accelerator was a brake" is not a legal defence to vehicular homicide. It's sad as fuck. But it's not a defence.
She was a cop for 26 years and never used her weapon. I don't believe she intended to kill him. It was a mistake.


Whereas why did this guy get to walk? After being put on paid leave and then being given separation pay?



 
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shack

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She was a cop for 26 years and never used her weapon. I don't believe she intended to kill him. It was a mistake.
She had 26 years to learn to differentiate. That's why she was up on charges.

A 26 year trained cop, should not be making that mistake.

There was no dispute as to whether people felt it was deliberate or not. It was generally agreed upon that it was an error.

If they felt it was deliberate, she would have been up on murder charges, not manslaughter.
 
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Strange outcome, it all happened when she was trying to apprehend a criminal trying to get away. In a life and death situation under stress that no one here has ever experienced she made a mistake. As a result the criminal died.
In my opinion this is where it should end, regardless if the criminal was white, asian, hispanic or black, same for the cop. He gambled by committing a felony and lost his life. Had a warrant out for his arrest as well. Better him than an innocent family driving home.

We cannot ask police officers to sacrifice their lives for us and then hang them out to dry the second they fuck up.
 
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mandrill

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She was a cop for 26 years and never used her weapon. I don't believe she intended to kill him. It was a mistake.
Whereas why did this guy get to walk? After being put on paid leave and then being given separation pay?


I agree. It was a mistake. I feel sorry for her. But it's still negligent homicide. Someone is dead. She killed him. It's fucked up, but there you go.
 

mandrill

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Strange outcome, it all happened when she was trying to apprehend a criminal trying to get away. In a life and death situation under stress that no one here has ever experienced she made a mistake. As a result the criminal died.
In my opinion this is where it should end, regardless if the criminal was white, asian, hispanic or black, same for the cop. He gambled by committing a felony and lost his life. Had a warrant out for his arrest as well. Better him than an innocent family driving home.
We cannot ask police officers to sacrifice their lives for us and then hang them out to dry the second they fuck up.
That's the thing about the law. It applies whether or not you kill a saint or an asshole.
 
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Strange outcome, it all happened when she was trying to apprehend a criminal trying to get away. In a life and death situation under stress that no one here has ever experienced she made a mistake. As a result the criminal died.
In my opinion this is where it should end, regardless if the criminal was white, asian, hispanic or black, same for the cop. He gambled by committing a felony and lost his life. Had a warrant out for his arrest as well. Better him than an innocent family driving home.

We cannot ask police officers to sacrifice their lives for us and then hang them out to dry the second they fuck up.
To correct you...the kid got pulled over because he had an air freshener hanging from his rearview mirror, wow what a thug, the nerve of him...this was not a life and death situation until Potter pulled her gun...she made a mistake that can not be corrected and there are consequences for that mistake.

This cop fucked up...
 

Samranchoi

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Having seen some of the video and testimony, it is clear that there was no malice by Potter but she was still guilty as to the outcome. If only they didn’t stop him for such a minor infraction, his death would not have happened. If only he didn’t struggle to get away, he would still be alive. The first being a unnecessary action and the second a deadly decision.

On a lighter note, when I was listening to the judge address the jury after the verdict was rendered, if her current position does not work out, she clearly has a future as a phone sex operator.
 

jcpro

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