Ladies, clean up afterwards!

[RTRD]

Exactly what must be American...

I for one call Bullshit on this one. This is so stupid and unbelievable that it MUST be American.

...about a SCOTTISH COUPLE filing a lawsuit??

Everyday I learn to hate Canadians more....despite my best efforts to not generalize all of them as arrogant insecure assholes...

 

[RTRD]

First...

"Bottom line I am AMERICAN, " lol that is tff....to quote one of your own border patrol officers when he was questioning one of your countrymen who was trying to cross the border without ID: BIG FUCKING DEAL..... So you being american gives you what, special treatment? LOL I guess that is why americans have a bad rap: they think everywhere they go, they expect nothing but the best, exactly the way it is at home. Well, sorry, the world doesn't revolve around you guys, get used to it!

Anyhow, if you think a hotel room is prepared perfectly everytime and will be as clean as your own home, then give your head a shake. It ain't.....you can't expect ANYONE to be perfect ALL the time. Heck, even FEDEX works on a 90% efficiency rate (and with shipping 10 million packages a day, they lose a million of em).

To expect a housekeeper to catch everything, in every room, every day, well, that's just ludicrous.

Bottom line is the housekeeper should be reprimanded NOT fired.

No I don't have kids, but if I did, at 2 they would know not to put strange objects in their mouth. EOS.

If I had a 5 yr old, I certainly wouldn't take them to vegas, disneyland maybe but not vegas...wtf were they thinking? If you take a child to a place who's nickname is "sin city" don't be surprised if people GASP sin there!

Let me ask you this: if they took the kid to McD's and there was a fry under the table and the kid ate it would they sue McD's? Probably but if the parents didn't teach the kid not to eat off the floor, then that is THEIR problem, not McD's.....

Your 90% number is WAY OFF...absuredly off....even for something you clearly just pulled out of your ass.

Second - really, if you don't have kids, don't bother sprouting off about what your kid would or would not do. Or do you think people say "you know what - my kid is going be a raping, murdering, embezzling jerk". If you HAD kids you'd know that putting things in their mouth is something kids often do - despite their parents best efforts to teach them otherwise. Or do you expect the parents adn kids to be flawless even though everyone else in the world gets a break for being human.

Third - I think Madeline was pointing out that she was American because the couple in question was not - and she said when traveling in the states, versus some fucked place like....oh, I don't know, say Canada...and thus has an expectation for "the best, exactly the way it is at home". Because you do recall that this incident happened in Las Vegas, right? Versus some backward ass thrid world country like...oh...I don't know...Canada.

So...lets review...

You know nothing about the shippping business...

You know nothing about kids...

You know nothing about the expectation of Americans (gien that you aren't one) when traeling within their own country (given that you don't live there).

What was the basis then for this rant? That you could?

Fair enough then....

BTW - Dont' actually hate Canada...it is my home, by choice. Sorry about the swipes. Getting really fucking sick of (some) Canadians though...

 

[Hard Idle]

The hotel deserves to be sued big time. It's not up to PAYING guests to clean up after themseleves. For the money that hotles charge (while employing refugees and aliens to work long shifts for pocket change) they better have the room cleaned up between visitors.


Having said that, I don't feel any sympathy for the paretns. When I was 5, if I even THOUGHT about picking up something without asking my parents, I better hope it killed me fast before I got a RodneyKing done on me.

If you're going to take your 5 year old to VEGAS, you have to do some street proofing, no?

 

[High_Roller]

I still think it boils down to where the condom was found. There's simply no way for the maids to do a CSI-style clean-up for each room, given the volume and turn-around they got, especially in Vegas. No one should be taking it out on the maids; they have a very unenviable job.

Emotionally though, since it's Caesar's, I hope they get sued big-time, considering how much money they rip off of people in the casino and how much they make off of Celine Dion ... lol. If it's a Holiday Inn in Boise, Idaho, I'd feel differently.

But in the end, the casino will win. The House always wins. You know why they put surveillance cameras in non-gaming areas? Because people were filing frivolous lawsuits against them, saying they tripped and fell on stairs and escalators in the lobby and lounge areas. The casinos are full of money and aren't exactly seen as the good guys, so people love to sue them. The casino will have the best lawyers with lots of experience defending against lawsuits.

I just hope this doesn't mean they start putting cameras in the rooms...

 

[goodtime]

The housekeeper in charge of changing the bed linens should be fired!

Forget about condoms, what about bed bugs...now that is just plain disgusting.

Perhaps souvenir from the housekeeping lady & the Bellboy?

 

[Laurenedm]

No Fault of Parents...

While I am not naive enough to assume that a hotel room will be as clean as my own home, I definitely expect a certain level of cleanliness during my stay. Of course it is unreasonable for housekeeping to inspect the room with a black light and fine tooth comb, but it should be standard procedure to change all linens, clean the bathroom, and to address anything else that requires attention before the next group checks in. I'm sure it isn't groundbreaking news that a condom could be found under a bed or behind a chair, so take a moment and look the room over before you declare it available. I am not necessarily putting the blame on housekeeping.... the problem could be with that particular employee or it could be an issue at the management level. Its possible that the employee responsible for that room was lazy and it's also possible that management is not allowing enough time or staff to get the job done properly. Whatever the situation, a guest should not have to worry about their children putting used condoms in their mouths. Children are not adults... it shouldn't be expected that they have the mental reasoning to know better. Even the most responsible parent couldn't possibly have eyes on their child every moment of the day. It is unacceptable and the hotel should be held responsible.
Nobody is perfect and mistakes happen. If they were asking for a ridculous amount in damages, I might be more inclined to believe that this was intentional... but it seems as though the parent's are just seeking reimbursement of medical expenses and some public awareness so that hotels/parents might pay more attention to the issue.

 

[tboy]

MLAM: You my friend, are an idiot. Do you really think, just because someone doesn't have kids of their own, means they've never been involved in raising kids? Not that I have to justify anything to you, 3 out of my 6 long term relationships had kids and I was involved in raising them, disciplining them, teaching them for 5 yrs plus each. I also had friends, family and relatives with kids and have first had knowledge that you CAN teach kids right from wrong. Yes, gasp, even at 5....

FedEx: sorry, you're wrong. I didn't pull the number out of my ass, like I said (if you had read my post) it was a case history in a business text that I had to read as part of a course I was taking at Ryerson. Like I also said, this was a while ago so their numbers have probably improved since the text was written. Again, as if I have to justify myself to you, I have probably shipped oh, 8 -10,000 packages and shipments of various sizes (up to and including 53foot trailers full) over the past 20 yrs. So I know shipping fuck you very much.

As for knowing americans and america, I basically lived there for 2 yrs and have visited almost every major US city at least once. These visits aren't just for weekends I'm talking 2 - 3 weeks in each place at times. So I've met all kinds, from every walk of life, and know that there are some (funny how many border states are the worst) who give americans a bad rap. There are also americans who are simply great people (Salt Lake City) and have none of the bad traits commonly associated with americans.

I think I touched a nerve and I wonder, if this stigma that americans have is the general concept of the REST OF THE FUCKING WORLD, am I wrong, ummm NO.

 

[goodtime]

C.p.

My experience with C.P. were top-notch. Got upgraded to one of the larger suites & lots of odd corners & tight space that's tough to clean. No complains from my clean-freak travel companions. Cleaning ladies were very polite & attentive.

 

[RTRD]

In response...


"have first had knowledge that you CAN teach kids right from wrong. Yes, gasp, even at 5...."

Of course you can. Doesn't mean that they won't do wrong. How many kids have you raised again??

FedEx: sorry, you're wrong. I didn't pull the number out of my ass, like I said (if you had read my post) it was a case history in a business text that I had to read as part of a course I was taking at Ryerson.

Bullshit. They is no way they would be in business if they EVER lost 10% of all packages. You think anyone would continue to do business with them after they lost the 2nd package?? This would be Malcom Baldridege award winning Fed Ex. (Google it). No way. You pull that shit out of your ass and you know it.

BTW - if you have been in the shipping businiess then you KNOW know one would stay with a shipper who had a 10% lost rate. In my 20 years of using Fed Ex (having shipped something less than 10,000 packages or whatever you claim) I have never known them to lose a package. My last employer was a small technology firm - we had clients all over the world...and about half of them were in 3rd world countries. We'd ship 5 to 10 packages a day - nothing big. But in my year there not a single package got lost. Not one. Stuck in customs? Yes. Lost? No. 1000+

As for knowing americans and america, I basically lived there for 2 yrs and have visited almost every major US city at least once. These visits aren't just for weekends I'm talking 2 - 3 weeks in each place at times. So I've met all kinds, from every walk of life, and know that there are some

And these people talked to you at length about their travel habits and expectations, did they?


I think I touched a nerve and I wonder, if this stigma that americans have is the general concept of the REST OF THE FUCKING WORLD, am I wrong, ummm NO.

You did, because I am weary of the people who can thank their very livelihood and quality of life to Americans and America always bashing it. But insofar as what the "rest of the fucking world" thinks...I have two responses...

1) Depends on who you ask. Try asking the millions who immigrate there every year....including Canadians 10 to 1.

2) It is easy to take shots at number one. When "you" get there, you'll see...not that this will ever happen.

 

[tboy]

"have first had knowledge that you CAN teach kids right from wrong. Yes, gasp, even at 5...."

Of course you can. Doesn't mean that they won't do wrong. How many kids have you raised again??

FedEx: sorry, you're wrong. I didn't pull the number out of my ass, like I said (if you had read my post) it was a case history in a business text that I had to read as part of a course I was taking at Ryerson.

Bullshit. They is no way they would be in business if they EVER lost 10% of all packages. You think anyone would continue to do business with them after they lost the 2nd package?? This would be Malcom Baldridege award winning Fed Ex. (Google it). No way. You pull that shit out of your ass and you know it.

BTW - if you have been in the shipping businiess then you KNOW know one would stay with a shipper who had a 10% lost rate. In my 20 years of using Fed Ex (having shipped something less than 10,000 packages or whatever you claim) I have never known them to lose a package. My last employer was a small technology firm - we had clients all over the world...and about half of them were in 3rd world countries. We'd ship 5 to 10 packages a day - nothing big. But in my year there not a single package got lost. Not one. Stuck in customs? Yes. Lost? No. 1000+

As for knowing americans and america, I basically lived there for 2 yrs and have visited almost every major US city at least once. These visits aren't just for weekends I'm talking 2 - 3 weeks in each place at times. So I've met all kinds, from every walk of life, and know that there are some

And these people talked to you at length about their travel habits and expectations, did they?


I think I touched a nerve and I wonder, if this stigma that americans have is the general concept of the REST OF THE FUCKING WORLD, am I wrong, ummm NO.

You did, because I am weary of the people who can thank their very livelihood and quality of live to Americans and America always bashing it. BUt insofar as what the "rest of the fucking world" thinks...I have two responses...

1) Depends on who you ask. Try asking the millions who immigrate there every year....including Canadians 10 to 1.

2) It is easy to take shots at number one. When "you" get there, you'll see...no that this will ever happen.

LOL number 1 on what scale? Highest gun crimes? Highest debt? Highest population of people living in poverty? Highest crime rates? Highest unemployment? Highest consumer of oil and gasoline? Highest consumer of natural resources?

I will be the first to admit that without the US we'd all be talking japanese or german and thank god you're the world's police force (and everyone knows how we treat our cops) BUT do you HAVE to be the BAD cop???? LOL

As for the Fed Ex model, I will try and find the book it was in. I never throw anything out so it's gotta be around here somewhere.

Also, Yes, I firmly believe that companies working on a 90% efficiency rate will not only stay in business, but survive and flourish. Look at home many billion of cars have been recalled, look at microsoft and their windows package. XP is better than the others but they were ALL released with known bugs in them.

Look at the os package in general, it is released and designed with security breaches readily available.

I could go on but there are TOUSANDS of companies around that don't work at a 90% so if you think it is odd that FedEx once operated at 90%, then wake up and look around, it ain't that hard to fathom.

BTW: When I referred to "losing" a package, I didn't mean it was lost forever....FedEx always eventually finds it and delivers it.

You telling me that you've never had FedEx miss a shipping deadline or lose a package for a couple of days?

As for my 10,000 shipments, why I'm even bothering you being such a dipshit but anyways, I was in the trade show business for about 12 years. I averaged 150 - 200 projects a year. Each project had to go, and come back from a location. That's 3600 right off the bat. Now each project often had multiple shipments (graphics, giveaways etc) so I will pare it down to 3 each. That's another 7200. So not counting having to ship documents/designs out for client approvals, discs to printers, shipments to suppliers, invoices quotes etc I'm still over 10800. That is ONLY counting the 12 years I was in the business, I was in another for 17 years before that. So put THAT in your pipe and smoke it!

As for talking to your fellow countrymen about travel etc. When you work side by side with a crew of guys for 12 hours a day, for 2 weeks, you end up talking about all kinds of things. And yup, the majority of them complained that when they went to the bahamas, jamaica etc, they didn't get the same service as they got at home, and the food wasn't the same.....I replied "but isn't that why you go someplace different, to experience different things"? They said well yeah, but as for hotels and food, why CAN'T it be the same? I said to that "have you ever seen a local jamaican move? They're slower than molasses in January, at that speed they won't be doing much in a day (I also qualified that by saying that the slower pace is due to the extreme heat and humidity at the time).

 

[RTRD]

Right...

BTW: When I referred to "losing" a package, I didn't mean it was lost forever....FedEx always eventually finds it and delivers it.

...you were refering to packages that were lost but not really lost, and only shipping to places other than G8 nations, and you weren't talking about Fed Ex now, but back at some other time. That is when they had a 90% success rate.

Ok. We are all clear now.

BTW - I didn't say you hadn't shipped 10,000 packages. I can believe it. What I can't believe is that you would have that sort of experience and make such a dumb ass assertion. I mean we are talking echoing anus level assertion here.

Insofar as that whole travel rant....you might want to remember that the orginal travelers were Scottish...traveling in the U.S....and Madeline was were refering to her travels in the U.S....so what Americans expect when traveling abroad really isn't relevant to this discussion.

I understand though...it was another bashing opportunity.