LASIK MD

[jeff2]

I had Custom Lasik at Lasik MD First Canadian Place about 21 years ago. Typed Lasik MD discount into Google and found out you get 20%(or was it 30%?) off if you have a Royal Bank Visa.
Did not want Visa as I have a Mastercard. Got one anyway and cancelled after paying for procedure. Regular price for Custom Lasik was $ 5000 at the time. Only thing that kind of bothered me is one eye is a bit sharper than the other. They said this would delay reading glasses and it has so far.

Custom Lasik back then was not really fully custom as they created the flap with a scalpel. Not long after my surgery, they started using the laser to create the flap.
They did mention that most complications were because of movement during the surgery.

 

[jeff2]

I worked in the industry for roughly a decade. Next to no surgeons have done lasik, I would avoid it.

You going to need glasses as you age anyway so its only temporary benefit

I am surprised that so many surgeons have avoided it with all the lab animals(humans in this case, 40 million of them) and improvements over the years.
Was this work experience quite a long time ago?



AI Overview




LASIK is considered highly safe, with serious complications affecting less than 1% of patients. It is an FDA-approved procedure, and studies indicate that long-term contact lens wear actually poses a higher risk of serious eye infections than LASIK

 

[to.lost]

I am surprised that so many surgeons have avoided it with all the lab animals(humans in this case, 40 million of them) and improvements over the years.
Was this work experience quite a long time ago?



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LASIK is considered highly safe, with serious complications affecting less than 1% of patients. It is an FDA-approved procedure, and studies indicate that long-term contact lens wear actually poses a higher risk of serious eye infections than LASIK

Infection is easily treatable, errors from LASIK has literally driven people to suicide. In the end the surgery is only effective for a narrow portion of the population long term, if you have high astigmatism, thin corneas, dry eyes or high light sensitive or just really bad vision you arent cut out for it.

 

[jeff2]

Infection is easily treatable, errors from LASIK has literally driven people to suicide. In the end the surgery is only effective for a narrow portion of the population long term, if you have high astigmatism, thin corneas, dry eyes or high light sensitive or just really bad vision you arent cut out for it.

I am aware of those situations. It is not for everyone. And no surgery is completely safe. They cannot guarantee how your body heals.



AI Overview



Eye surgeons are highly likely to get LASIK. In a study published in the Journal of Cataract and Refractive Surgery, 62.6% of refractive surgeons who were deemed suitable candidates chose to have laser vision correction performed on their own eyes.
National Institutes of Health (NIH) | (.gov) +3

Because eye doctors thoroughly understand the technology and observe firsthand how well patients heal, they are generally five times more likely to get LASIK than the general public. In fact, over 90% of these specialists either have the procedure themselves or recommend it to their immediate family members.
Refractive Surgery Council +2

 

[MazeMorose]

I got it done in Jan of 2023. I'm personally thrilled with the results to this day. Don't need cute nerd glasses for driving any more.

 

[barnacler]

All this talk of "It isn't worth the risk" is meaningless until you actually know what IS the risk? What is the probability? I in 100, 100,000, 100 million?

There's a risk in driving a car, or in a car. We all accept risks that are small enough, so we need facts, not just a statement that it is too risky when you can't quantify the risk.

I did not have LASIK, I had vision correction via lens replacements, which is identical to cataracts surgery.

Excellent results.

The idea of placing these plastic contraptions that rest on my nose and hook around my ears all day every day, OR putting lenses in, taking them out every day, now seems bizarre to me.

 

[barnacler]

I worked in the industry for roughly a decade. Next to no surgeons have done lasik, I would avoid it.

You going to need glasses as you age anyway so its only temporary benefit

LOL,. all life is temporary.

Anesthesia during surgey is also a temporary benefit, ...


......but I'll take it.

 

[patapim]

I wish I could get Lasik but one of the issues with my eyes simply do not allow for it

 

[peteeey]

True but why take the risk if it is not necessary? In the case of cataracts it is a medical procedure that is necessary and the benefits outweigh the risks. In Lasik it is an elective surgery. I mean I wear glasses and can see fine. Not necessary to do it but it is cosmetic improvement. To me it is not worth the risks. I had a consultation years ago and decided to not do it. I can see fine with glasses and is totally unnecessary.

Btw if you read the reviews of LASIK or other similar laser eye elective surgery the results are mixed. To pay $15000 for mixed results?

I took it because my eyesight was deteriorating. I was scared to drive at night. I now am able to drive without glasses and wear sunglasses that aren't prescription. I still wear prescription eyeglasses but that's my choice. I could have easily gone to Shoppers to buy those reading glasses you see in the pharmacy section.

 

[peteeey]

I didn't do it before because it was too expensive!! Was $12,000 when I first looked at it in 1997!

Basic lenses were covered by OHIP when I had them done four or five years ago. I took the upgrade, which I believe was around $360 for each eye. My surgeon offered me further upgrades that took the price into the thousands. Not needed if you don't mind wearing glasses to read.

 

[peteeey]

I had my cataracts done 3 years ago at the Bochner Eye Institute by Dr. Stein. He was recommended to me by my optometrist, Dr. Tepperman.

Wide awake during the surgery. Absolutely painless.

The second eye one day after the first. He prescribed eye drops, but said only necessary if I experienced "dry eyes" after the operation, which I did not.

I've had annual checkups afterwards with Dr. Tepperman, and there has been no deterioration from the 20/20 vision that the surgery gave me.

They also do LASIK.

I highly recommend Dr. Stein and the Bochner Eye Institute, located at 40 Prince Arthur, close to Avenue Road and Bloor.

I had an anesthetist jab me with something but it didn't take and I was awake during the procedure. It was like staring at a light. I was scared shitless because I'm a wimp, but otherwise it was completely painless.

 

[xmontrealer]

I had an anesthetist jab me with something but it didn't take and I was awake during the procedure. It was like staring at a light. I was scared shitless because I'm a wimp, but otherwise it was completely painless.

They just gave me a dissolvable-under-my-tongue Ativan, I think, or at least something else that was calming, right before my cataract surgery.

You're right about staring at a not very bright light.

As far as I know, they do not put you to sleep for cataract surgery.

But it was painless!

 

[to.lost]

I am aware of those situations. It is not for everyone. And no surgery is completely safe. They cannot guarantee how your body heals.



AI Overview



Eye surgeons are highly likely to get LASIK. In a study published in the Journal of Cataract and Refractive Surgery, 62.6% of refractive surgeons who were deemed suitable candidates chose to have laser vision correction performed on their own eyes.
View attachment 619013 National Institutes of Health (NIH) | (.gov) +3

Because eye doctors thoroughly understand the technology and observe firsthand how well patients heal, they are generally five times more likely to get LASIK than the general public. In fact, over 90% of these specialists either have the procedure themselves or recommend it to their immediate family members.
View attachment 619014 Refractive Surgery Council +2

This is an instance i can tell you this is factually incorrect. Optometrist and opthalmolgist are not getting LASIK or PRK at higher rates.

In all likelyhood this is pulling data from refrative lens exchange which is the same procedure done for cataract patient. Which is perfectly safe and far better results

 

[to.lost]

All this talk of "It isn't worth the risk" is meaningless until you actually know what IS the risk? What is the probability? I in 100, 100,000, 100 million?

There's a risk in driving a car, or in a car. We all accept risks that are small enough, so we need facts, not just a statement that it is too risky when you can't quantify the risk.

I did not have LASIK, I had vision correction via lens replacements, which is identical to cataracts surgery.

Excellent results.

The idea of placing these plastic contraptions that rest on my nose and hook around my ears all day every day, OR putting lenses in, taking them out every day, now seems bizarre to me.

Risk for severe injury is relatively low. But "risk" to still need glasses afterwards is quite high. It can add new visual defects like halos or distortions.

If anyone here is considering lasik, just get refractive lens exchange. Its safer, faster recovery and better results. Bonus you cant get cataracts after.

 

[peteeey]

They just gave me a dissolvable-under-my-tongue Ativan, I think, or at least something else that was calming, right before my cataract surgery.

You're right about staring at a not very bright light.

As far as I know, they do not put you to sleep for cataract surgery.

But it was painless!

My wife and I both had the surgery and an anesthetist was present for both. Whatever he gave me didn't work and I was awake for the procedure. My wife didn't remember a thing. I imagine it's like going for a colonoscopy. I was given some sort of tranquilizer the first time I went and it was living hell. I switched to another place that has an anesthetist and have never felt a thing.

 

[HuevosGalore]

i ended up getting the surgery a while back despite hearing the horror stories and i must say i'm completely satisfied with, not having to wear glasses anymore is truly a blessing

 

[xmontrealer]

My wife and I both had the surgery and an anesthetist was present for both. Whatever he gave me didn't work and I was awake for the procedure. My wife didn't remember a thing. I imagine it's like going for a colonoscopy. I was given some sort of tranquilizer the first time I went and it was living hell. I switched to another place that has an anesthetist and have never felt a thing.

I had a couple of colonoscopies in Montreal where I was awake, having taken a mild tranquilizer also. It was uncomfortable, but tolerable. I got to watch the procedure on the monitor next to the table I was on. I should have asked for a copy of the tape or DVD lol...

The colonoscopies I've had in Toronto were all done under the wonderful anaesthetic Propofol. Fell asleep before I could count down to zero from 10. Woke up in the recovery area feeling great, and asking if they even did the endoscopy/colonoscopy...

 

[Ahri]

You guys are really convincing me to get my eyes fixed lol

 

[peteeey]

I had a couple of colonoscopies in Montreal where I was awake, having taken a mild tranquilizer also. It was uncomfortable, but tolerable. I got to watch the procedure on the monitor next to the table I was on. I should have asked for a copy of the tape or DVD lol...

The colonoscopies I've had in Toronto were all done under the wonderful anaesthetic Propofol. Fell asleep before I could count down to zero from 10. Woke up in the recovery area feeling great, and asking if they even did the endoscopy/colonoscopy...

Didn't you know from all your farting? lol.

 

[peteeey]

You guys are really convincing me to get my eyes fixed lol

Just do it. Believe me, I'm the most squeamish guy in the world and the procedures were nothing. As I mentioned before, the worst part is having to put drops in your eyes afterward. I had to do each eye for about a month and it was a hassle.