Lebanese that are ungrateful, a letter...

[Cobster]

I this the language u understand as zionists and americans and harper supporters.

http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=11935

Pro419

Didnt you find this out because someone else mentioned it?
You're just posting, reaching and looking to cause shit huh

 

[basketcase]

I this the language u understand as zionists and americans and harper supporters.

http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=11935

Pro419

How many fake aljazeera's are there?

The real aj (as in the sattelite network - the arab equivilent to CNN) which I read every day http://english.aljazeera.net not .com, not .info, not .blogspot, the real one is .net!!!!

About Aljazeera.com
Aljazeera Publishing owns and operates Aljazeera.com, bringing you the world today. Aljazeera Publishing is an independent media organisation established in 1992 in London[???]. Aljazeera.com has a particular focus on events and issues in the Middle East covering major developments presenting facts as they happen.

Important note: Aljazeera Publishing and Aljazeera.com are not associated with the controversial Arabic Satellite Channel known as Jazeera Space Channel TV (also known as Al-Jazeera Satellite Channel) station whose website is Aljazeera.net.

Aljazeera Publishing disassociates itself from the views, opinions and broadcasts of Jazeera Space Channel TV station.

At least this group is more credible than the .info blog site but their reference to the .net sattelite channel as controversial (despite it's acceptance by most of the world's media) indicates to me that it is not pro-arab enough for these folks.

Also, most reliable news sources do not have a conspiracy section prominantly placed, going so far as to claim that Israel knew the 1st kidnapping would happen, Americans instigating sectarian conflict in Iraq, and Al Zarqawi not being killed by a bomb but beat to death by Marines. This site, although more professional than smyth's site has enough evidence to question it's credibility as a news source.

 

[Cinema Face]

I think we should brought twice as many, half as far.

 

[Papi Chulo]

I think we should brought twice as many, half as far.

Good thought!!.. We could have dropped them off in the middle of the Atlantic!

 

[MarkJfr]

Publish this letter in the Toronto Star. Do you have the balls?

 

[MarkJfr]

This is a great letter someone wrote about the bitching and complaining by Lebanese Canadians with dual-citizenships.


July 21, 2006

Hi Everyone;

I just had to write this to get it off my chest. You may or may not agree with my sentiments however they are my opinions.

I was watching CBC news coverage this morning of the events concerning the returns of Lebanese-canadians. You'll note I did not capitalize the word Canadians when referring to these people as it was evident by their comments that they consider themselves to be Lebanese first and Canadians second. The more I watched the madder I got and I ended up turning off the television.

A host of the returnees to Canada were complaining about the Canadian Governments and it's slow response. Some of the returnees commented that Canada should be ashamed of itself for it's slow response in getting them out. One person complained about taking 11 hours to get to Cyrpress and also complained about the sandwiches that they were given. I was stunned at the ingratitude of the people being interviewed. Considering the logistics involved in getting thousands of people out of Lebanon I think the Canadian Government and other governments did well.

I got to thinking about the situation and came to the conclusion that Canada now seems to be a land of opportunists, not opportunity. The only two people in my family who got a free trip to Europe were my dad and my uncle Charlie who were shipped overseas to serve in World War 11. No-one asked most of these people to go to Lebanon so a free trip back with minor inconveniences is a good deal. Better than being dead I suppose.

Here is the deal. I will arrange to pay for a trip back to war torn Lebanon for any Lebanese-Canadian ingrate who agrees to the following. If you feel ashamed of Canada and it's response you should renounce your Canadian Citizenship, pay back the government of Canada for the free services you received when you came here such as medical, dental, education, job start programs, housing, ESL classes, business venture grants etc. and for those going back to live in Lebanon give up your CPP benefits
( a great many Canadians are ignorant about the programs your tax dollar is paying for). As I stated earlier Canada seems to be the land of opportunists. I wonder what the percentage would be of these ingrates serving in our Armed Forces?

Now, you might view me as a radical and a bigot. That is your opinion. The above is mine. I am one of many CANADIANS who are just fed up with the ingratitude of some and the milking of our government by others. It's about time that people stood up and said enough is enough. Political correctness is a way to stifle people from speaking how they feel and in some cases speaking what is the truth. Affirmative action is nothing more than reverse discrimination. As I stated earlier I am fed up with the hyphenation of Canadian citizenship. You are either a Canadian or you are not one.

I intend on sending this letter to my M. P. and anyone else I can think of. If you agree with me please pass this on, if not, then press delete.

Mike C.
A Canadian from Winnipeg Mb.

Many of these Canadians who were visiting lebanon are just that. THey visit for the holidays. Some have work related things there. Because many have MD degrees who have to drive TAXIs here instead of working as doctors in Canada. So there was no chance for them to live the good life. But they beleive in Canadian values. So they are Canadians working abroad because the opportunities home are not great.

Your racist remarks speaks volumes about the deep hate you have for other cultures and people who live and love Canada. I am glad you dont run think country.

My 2 cents

 

[Cobster]

Clearly you can't read Mark.

 

[pussylicker]

Northern, no need for proof, read about it in the newspapers.
Its all there. Ask Mr Graham, he will tell you all about it.

Pro419

And which mr Graham are you referring to. I will use the word assume, (cause I like it soooooooooooo much) that you are referring the bloomin idiot running the Sinking Ship Lieberal. He is runnung off at the mouth, so that whoever replaces him, will look like a Godsend, and all the blind mice/sheep in this country will sleepwalk back to the Lieberal party. Graham, along with McCallum and a few others need to spend their days in overcoats with their bottles wrapped inside little brown bags, and hang out in the alleys or park benches of this great country. Desperate times call for desperate measures. With no talent in the Lieberal party, they had to use dredges to find people to fill cabinet posts. Actually the riding mustn't have had any talent to nominate, and vote for these idiots to work in Ottawa.

As far as Harper goes, I'm sure he has known where Lebanon is located for several years. He isn't a stupid man, and I'm sure knows a lot more about geograghy than a lot of people in North America, including G.W. B.

 

[pussylicker]

It's amazing the number of people who move to Canada and bring their hatred with them.


x^

You forgot to add instil it in their children.

 

[allaboutben]

Why dont the Lebanese show some balls and fight? Instead of running back to Canada crying about no sandwiches. Either fight Israel or take out Hezbollah. Make a choice. Problem with the Lebanese is that they havent had to experience a real war. If they had, they wouldnt be in this situation. That BS over 20 yrs ago was just street fighting. A good war can be very cleansing. Either way, keep the crap over there.

On the original comment, most immigrants from the last 50 yrs or so are fairly similar. Its what can Canada do for them, not what they can do for Canada.

 

[RTRD]

Yes...

This is a great letter someone wrote about the bitching and complaining by Lebanese Canadians with dual-citizenships.


July 21, 2006

Hi Everyone;

I just had to write this to get it off my chest. You may or may not agree with my sentiments however they are my opinions.

I was watching CBC news coverage this morning of the events concerning the returns of Lebanese-canadians. You'll note I did not capitalize the word Canadians when referring to these people as it was evident by their comments that they consider themselves to be Lebanese first and Canadians second. The more I watched the madder I got and I ended up turning off the television.

A host of the returnees to Canada were complaining about the Canadian Governments and it's slow response. Some of the returnees commented that Canada should be ashamed of itself for it's slow response in getting them out. One person complained about taking 11 hours to get to Cyrpress and also complained about the sandwiches that they were given. I was stunned at the ingratitude of the people being interviewed. Considering the logistics involved in getting thousands of people out of Lebanon I think the Canadian Government and other governments did well.

I got to thinking about the situation and came to the conclusion that Canada now seems to be a land of opportunists, not opportunity. The only two people in my family who got a free trip to Europe were my dad and my uncle Charlie who were shipped overseas to serve in World War 11. No-one asked most of these people to go to Lebanon so a free trip back with minor inconveniences is a good deal. Better than being dead I suppose.

Here is the deal. I will arrange to pay for a trip back to war torn Lebanon for any Lebanese-Canadian ingrate who agrees to the following. If you feel ashamed of Canada and it's response you should renounce your Canadian Citizenship, pay back the government of Canada for the free services you received when you came here such as medical, dental, education, job start programs, housing, ESL classes, business venture grants etc. and for those going back to live in Lebanon give up your CPP benefits
( a great many Canadians are ignorant about the programs your tax dollar is paying for). As I stated earlier Canada seems to be the land of opportunists. I wonder what the percentage would be of these ingrates serving in our Armed Forces?

Now, you might view me as a radical and a bigot. That is your opinion. The above is mine. I am one of many CANADIANS who are just fed up with the ingratitude of some and the milking of our government by others. It's about time that people stood up and said enough is enough. Political correctness is a way to stifle people from speaking how they feel and in some cases speaking what is the truth. Affirmative action is nothing more than reverse discrimination. As I stated earlier I am fed up with the hyphenation of Canadian citizenship. You are either a Canadian or you are not one.

I intend on sending this letter to my M. P. and anyone else I can think of. If you agree with me please pass this on, if not, then press delete.

Mike C.
A Canadian from Winnipeg Mb.

...he is a bigot.

I agree that the notion of complaining about your means of transport out of war zone is absurd.

However...

"pay back the government of Canada for the free services you received when you came here such as medical, dental, education, job start programs, housing, ESL classes, business venture grants etc. and for those going back to live in Lebanon give up your CPP benefits
( a great many Canadians are ignorant about the programs your tax dollar is paying for)."

It wasn't "free". I presume they paid taxes just like everyone else...income tax...sales tax. I pay a shit load of taxes and I don't even get a say on how they are spent because I don't get a vote. Nothing in life is "free", and if they received more in benefits than they paid in taxes they would not be the only ones...lots of working class white Canadians can say the very same thing.

"I wonder what the percentage would be of these ingrates serving in our Armed Forces?"

I don't know, but I suspect it is not greatly different than the percentage of the overal population for the same income and education level. Unless the author of this "letter" has served himself and / or has children who are serving currently, I would think he has little authority on which to take a stand with this.

"Affirmative action is nothing more than reverse discrimination. "

No, it isn't and this is where he reveals his bigotry. First - is there Affrimative Action in Canada? I have never heard that there was. Second, as I pointed out some time ago on this message board, the vast majority of working class people of all races have little understanding of how Affirmative Action works. Third, Affirmative Action only exists because there are bigots on the world who would otherwise not act fairly.

"You are either a Canadian or you are not one."

Hmmm...I wonder if this applies to all the German, Polish, Irish and French Canadians as well...

 

[allaboutben]

"I wonder what the percentage would be of these ingrates serving in our Armed Forces?"

I don't know, but I suspect it is not greatly different than the percentage of the overal population for the same income and education level.

Really? I think you know that's not true. Watch the dead bodies come home and perform an analysis by ethnicity and report back to this forum. You will be surprised.

Just admit that a lot of the Lebanese/Cdns left Lebanon 20 yrs ago to escape the crap back then. When things improved, they returned to Lebanon, but kept their Cdn passports. Hence, fairweather Cdns.

 

[RTRD]

I don't know...

Really? I think you know that's not true. Watch the dead bodies come home and perform an analysis by ethnicity and report back to this forum. You will be surprised.

Just admit that a lot of the Lebanese/Cdns left Lebanon 20 yrs ago to escape the crap back then. When things improved, they returned to Lebanon, but kept their Cdn passports. Hence, fairweather Cdns.

...anything...other than when you have a large enough sample size and do a FAIR comparison, much more often than not race turns out to be a non factor.

Why...do you have some actually data that says otherwise? Or would you be speculating like I am? You been performing that analysis of "dead bodies"?

Besides...those in combat only make up a percentage...and not even the majority...of those IN the military...

 

[allaboutben]

...anything...other than when you have a large enough sample size and do a FAIR comparison, much more often than not race turns out to be a non factor.

Why...do you have some actually data that says otherwise? Or would you be speculating like I am? You been performing that analysis of "dead bodies"?

Besides...those in combat only make up a percentage...and not even the majority...of those IN the military...

Take up statistics, its pretty astounding how accurate it can be. I'd say when 100 dead soldiers return, you'd have more than enough of a sample size as the Cdn military is not that big. I'm not talking about the desk jockeys though. At any rate, using your logic, it should be the same anyways. Otherwise, it just proves the original point.

 

[xdog]

...he is a bigot.

I agree that the notion of complaining about your means of transport out of war zone is absurd.

However...

"pay back the government of Canada for the free services you received when you came here such as medical, dental, education, job start programs, housing, ESL classes, business venture grants etc. and for those going back to live in Lebanon give up your CPP benefits
( a great many Canadians are ignorant about the programs your tax dollar is paying for)."

It wasn't "free". I presume they paid taxes just like everyone else...income tax...sales tax. I pay a shit load of taxes and I don't even get a say on how they are spent because I don't get a vote. Nothing in life is "free", and if they received more in benefits than they paid in taxes they would not be the only ones...lots of working class white Canadians can say the very same thing.

"I wonder what the percentage would be of these ingrates serving in our Armed Forces?"

I don't know, but I suspect it is not greatly different than the percentage of the overal population for the same income and education level. Unless the author of this "letter" has served himself and / or has children who are serving currently, I would think he has little authority on which to take a stand with this.

"Affirmative action is nothing more than reverse discrimination. "

No, it isn't and this is where he reveals his bigotry. First - is there Affrimative Action in Canada? I have never heard that there was. Second, as I pointed out some time ago on this message board, the vast majority of working class people of all races have little understanding of how Affirmative Action works. Third, Affirmative Action only exists because there are bigots on the world who would otherwise not act fairly.

"You are either a Canadian or you are not one."

Hmmm...I wonder if this applies to all the German, Polish, Irish and French Canadians as well...

Come on MLAM...why do you always go back to racism? I think a lot of people would be upset no matter what colour or country ungrateful people come from. I also hope that a lot of working class Canadians(no need to segregate) receive services from the gov't. If they receive less than hyphenated Canadians living elsewhere, whether it be Florida, Greece, or Lebanon, it would be greatly unfair.
BTW, affirmative action will not get rid of ignorance or bigotry.


x^

 

[basketcase]

Although I have some concerns about evacuation naturalized Canadians with permanent residence in Lebanon, my main concern is that the policies for the evacuation counter stated consular policies.

These evacuees are not responsible with payment when all others are. The Consular services site even has an almost identical situation addressed where they evacuees were expected to pay. Is the PR gains to Canada so great that this becomes an exception.

http://www.voyage.gc.ca/main/pubs/consular_services-en.asp

Renée is visiting an archeological site near Lima, Peru, when a civil war breaks out. She calls the Canadian Embassy in Lima to find out if they can help her leave the country. A consular official tells her that they can assist her but that she will have to sign a document stating she will repay the costs of her evacuation. That night, she and other Canadians gather at a hotel. They are then escorted to a military airport and flown to Ecuador, the nearest safe location. They are all informed that the Embassy does not pay for any costs associated with their evacuation to Ecuador.

How likely is it that any of out tax dollars will be recovered, and from those who are no longer Canadian residents?