Led Zeppelin is a hoax

[james t kirk]

I found this video on youtube a while ago and thought it was extremely cool.

This guy does a technical analysis of John Bonham's drumming and I found it fascinating. When you see the notes on the screen and you hear the music along with the narration, you find yourself appreciating the music even more.

 

[Chubzy Maximus]

Saw these in concert once....absolutely amazing!!!

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...FA97084DD476079DCEA4FA97084DD476&&FORM=VRDGAR

 

[lomotil]

You should have a problem with YouTube earning money from posted music stolen from the artist.

Zeppelin not giving credit is really old news and is slowly being remedied. Full kudos to bands like the Stones who actively led fans to the originators.

Most of these artist are old deceased American black men who pioneered the blues and whom cannot be compensated. The surviving members of Led Zeppelin are old men themselves but where in their youthful primes when the brilliantly brought to life and to the mainstream the original artists creations with a powerful heavy metal uniqueness.

 

[Don Draper]

Never a big fan of Zep but neither am I disdainful of them. I found many other bands of the day more innovative and interesting. Personal taste I suppose. Of note:

"Boogie with Stu"

"Custard Pie" (All time personal favorite)

"Nobody's Fault but Mine"​

But Heaven and the Universe better come to aid because if I hear that "Stairway" wank ONE MORE TIME EVER....generations to come will recall the mayhem and agony my wrath shall entail!

Blech!!

 

[wigglee]

Fair enough, that is your opinion, however the courts and my ears do not agree. The song writing credits have been lifted for most of Zeppelin's hits. One of my favourites, Zeppelin's "Bring It on Home" has been deleted from YouTube for legal reasons , only the live version remains. This is a hard pill to swallow for hardcore Zeppelin fans, I still like their recording .

The reason someone asked your age is because it seems like you weren't around when this material came out. We knew and we didn't care. It was cheesy for them to not give credit but that does not diminish the value of their original style . Nobody was coming close to this heaviness except Hendrix at the time. The DJ's were giving credit to Willie Dixon and other blues pioneers for providing SOME of the raw ideas that Zeppelin transfomed and elaborated with heart, soul and blood curdling heavy intensity. John Paul Jones alone is a monster, as was Bonham. And they were considered the backup players!

 

[lomotil]

The reason someone asked your age is because it seems like you weren't around when this material came out. We knew and we didn't care. It was cheesy for them to not give credit but that does not diminish the value of their original style . Nobody was coming close to this heaviness except Hendrix at the time. The DJ's were giving credit to Willie Dixon and other blues pioneers for providing SOME of the raw ideas that Zeppelin transfomed and elaborated with heart, soul and blood curdling heavy intensity. John Paul Jones alone is a monster, as was Bonham. And they were considered the backup players!

True, I was not around when most of their work came out not and not of age to appreciate Zeppelin's obvious musically talents. I was not around neither when the original artists that Zeppelin poached from were composing either, actually neither was Plant or Paige, so what! I can still do my own retrospective study and form my own opinions, opinions which are shared by the courts and Atlantic Records. If Zeppelin was a university student, they would be expelled for blatant plagiarism. Today they are being prosecuted for theft. I was listening to some Zeppelin today actually and they music is still great but I call it as I see it.

 

[elwoodinontario]

Rolling Stone always had a hate on for Zeppelin. They panned their albums with regularity.

Rolling Stone's editorial board is a collection of elitist snobs. They have a hate on for anything generally like by the huddled masses.

 

[ogibowt]

Rolling Stone's editorial board is a collection of elitist snobs. They have a hate on for anything generally like by the huddled masses.

but this doesn't preclude the fact that LZ have been found culpable in courts of copyright infringement..............LZ is a polarizing band, no middle ground imo...they are liked or disliked.......those who like their music overlook or dismiss the fact they are rip off artists, those who dislike their music see validation for their views through their capricious past....

me?..i really don't like their music, nor the Beatles for that matter....too busy listening to Otis Redding, Sam Cooke, Wilson Pickett in my teen years...give me the Marvelettes version of Please MR Postman over the Beatles version anytime.............and don't get me started on the Lennon version of Stand By Me compared to Ben E King,s

 

[lomotil]

but this doesn't preclude the fact that LZ have been found culpable in courts of copyright infringement..............LZ is a polarizing band, no middle ground imo...they are liked or disliked.......those who like their music overlook or dismiss the fact they are rip off artists, those who dislike their music see validation for their views through their capricious past....

me?..i really don't like their music, nor the Beatles for that matter....too busy listening to Otis Redding, Sam Cooke, Wilson Pickett in my teen years...give me the Marvelettes version of Please MR Postman over the Beatles version anytime.............and don't get me started on the Lennon version of Stand By Me compared to Ben E King,s

This....succinct and accuate post...I like it:adoration:

 

[Insidious Von]

All musicians steal, the point is to steal creatively. Blues and jazz in particular are derivative. It is the entire point.

For those who think the Stones were better, Keith pretty much admits he is a thief. Mick Taylor quit over it (still the greatest lead guitarist they ever had). Mick and Keith attempted to take credit for writing Robert Johnson songs til the courts shut them down. Most evidence is that they stole Honky Tonk Women.

I disagree, The Stones promoted Delta Blues and Robert Johnson in particular. Let it Bleed was a commemoration of Johnson's music, not a rip off. Only one song on that album was a direct cover Love in Vain, most of the rest were formulations inspired by Robert Johnson. Let it Bleed was the first album with Mick Taylor.

 

[nobody123]

 

[Insidious Von]

You're probably right, most of what I know comes from a Stones biography from the 80's.

Mick Taylor was the youngest member of the Stones by several years. he's the same age as Bruce Springsteen. According to the biography, Taylor couldn't break the Jagger-Richards monopoly, he also had an out of control drug habit. Not wanting to end up like Brian Jones, he left after It's Only Rock and Roll. He made recordings with other artists, most notably doing the guitar works on two Bob Dylan albums. He also toured with Jack Bruce. He rejoined The Stones for their 50th Anniversary Tour, staying with them until 2014.

 

[Insidious Von]

I didn't know The Gong Show was back on air.

They have the fake Craig Ferguson from the Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson hosting it. I so miss Craig Ferguson, a giant bugo del culo has taken his place.

 

[Insidious Von]

I found this video on youtube a while ago and thought it was extremely cool.

This guy does a technical analysis of John Bonham's drumming and I found it fascinating. When you see the notes on the screen and you hear the music along with the narration, you find yourself appreciating the music even more.

Tiberius, you should give me a little credit, Harper was still PM when I posted that clip.

There's a new show on HBO called Sharp Objects that combines Zepp with Amy Adams - It doesn't get any better than that. Adams is a reporter with a drinking problem who's sent on her worst assignment. Going back to her home town to report on a local serial killer. It's a murder mystery and a characterization which Ms. Adams excels at. The show starts off with imho the greatest song Led Zeppelin ever wrote : In The Evening.

The song has one of the most powerful bridge they've ever written, it feels like you're in a boat in the middle of a still landless ocean.

 

[Insidious Von]

Say what you will about Led Zeppelin, that colossal bridge silences all criticism. I'm not sure if it was Page's inspiration, JP Jones may have had more to do with it. He studied classical music, the intro and the bridge came straight out of Claude Debussy's soundscape. The Tommy Chong of classical composers.

Well worth watching:

 

[Insidious Von]

Greeta Van Fleet has somewhat copied the Zep sound, there were other bands that were far more obvious.